What is this BS about Panjabis not eating BEEF ?

[Neeliyanfaujan96]

On 7/13/2018 at 10:45 AM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Source please ?

Also I noticed your profile has "verses" worshipping lakshmi , durga etc 

 

 

• ੴ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ।ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ।ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ। ਉਸਤਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ।

Whats source of this ?

Uggardanti sahib  

Sri Manglacharan puran ( Sri Sarbloh Granth) they are the very first opening tukks of the Granth  

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Neeliyanfaujan96 said:

Uggardanti sahib  

 Sri Manglacharan puran ( Sri Sarbloh Granth) they are the very first opening tukks of the Granth  

 

If Sikhs are going to venerate lakshmi and chandi and other such deities , then it beggers how different are you from hindus ?

[puzzled]

Its not diet that is going to make us different from Hindus its our practices.You have sikhs who go mandir, believe in people like baba balak nath, sikh women who wear sindoor, wear threads around wrists, etc when you do all this how are you any different to hindus then?

 

[Koi]

On 7/12/2018 at 11:58 AM, Neeliyanfaujan96 said:

ਯਹੀ ਦੇਹ ਆਗਿਆ ਤੁਰਕਨ ਗਹ ਖਪਾਊਂ

ਗਉ ਘਾਤ ਕਾ ਦੋਖ ਜਗ ਸਿਉਂ ਮਿਟਾਊਂ

- Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Uggardanti baani. Akaaaaaaal!

[ipledgeblue]

https://www.scribd.com/document/50629845/Uggardanti-Punjabi-and-English-Translation-Thanks-dalsingh101-Veerji

XhI bynqI Kws hmrI suxIjY ]Asur mwr kr r`C gaUAn krIjY ]

ieho myrI Kws Arz suxo [rwkiSSW (AsurW) nUM mwrky gaU (grIb) dI rkSW kro [

Kindly adhere to my specific request.Annihilate the evil demons and safeguard the cow (destitute).

https://www.scribd.com/document/50629845/Uggardanti-Punjabi-and-English-Translation-Thanks-dalsingh101-Veerji

XhI bynqI Kws hmrI suxIjY ]Asur mwr kr r`C gaUAn krIjY ]

ieho myrI Kws Arz suxo [rwkiSSW (AsurW) nUM mwrky gaU (grIb) dI rkSW kro [

Kindly adhere to my specific request.Annihilate the evil demons and safeguard the cow (destitute).

 

On 7/14/2018 at 3:08 PM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

If Sikhs are going to venerate lakshmi and chandi and other such deities , then it beggers how different are you from hindus ?

sometimes Guru ji is talking about nirguna niraankar. Many hindus only do pooja of sarguna saroop, while we have been told nirguna sargun nirankaar. So sikhis is different from nay hindu panths, and distinct in a way. Still, the colonialism complete divorce from hindus is also inaccurate.

[Not2Cool2Argue]

On 7/12/2018 at 5:00 AM, Gagan1995 said:

                So I always see Sikhs trying to say to everyone , hey we're not Hindus ,but then the same people go about following Hindu practices . So for some weird reason Punjab is one of the most vegetarian states , and many Panjabis don't eat beef ? I see side shops with mutton , chicken and some pork shops but not beef, what gives ? Cow isn't important to Sikhs, so if we don't want these Bandar sena scum to pull us into their circle , start eating meat , Singhs are LIONS , and lions eat meat . Start eating beef , pork , chicken , mutton . I mean you all do it in western countries , the best way to make a statement to these Shiv sena losers and show them that we aren't like them .. Make PANJAB a MEAT EATING STATE like South India. MAKE PANJAB GREAT AGAIN ! !

We cannot eat that whose milk we drink. Even jewish ppl, they do not allow mixing of dairy and meat just for this reason. So a cow is not cooked with ots own mothers milk.

Also, we cant have beef in a land where vegetarians raise cows.

Vegans think its horrible to drink milk. Because cows are artificially impregnanated to keep them lactating and.their male sons are sent to slaighter. 

So if we allow beef, all vegetarians who drink milk are complicit in meat eating and killing of calves. So it becomes part of their karma. Even if they dont eat meat. They will suffer from it. 

So that is why. In india where the only animal tamed and raised is cows. We cant kill them. 

If meat eaters want to eat meat. They can raise their own chicken. Sheep. And goats. 

But we dont want dairies becoming part of the meat market. If we allow beef. Dairies will start sending their sick cows and male calf to underhandedly to the slaughterhouses. And then vegetarians will be hypocrites. And vegetarians must drink milk due to vit B12 coming from animals only. 

To remain humane and properly vegetarian, all ppl should agree not to kill that whose milk we drink. 

Even muslims in india agreed to use goats as halaal and sacrifice. As do the nihang sikhs. 

But now the muslims are making a fuss. And demanding more. I think the dairy owners are behind it. 

Ofc ppl who let their cows wander in the streets once they r no longer lactating. Are also hypocrites. 

I think india should make it a law. That any freely wandering cows can be killed and eaten. That way ppl cant be hypocrites that release the old cows so they dont have to feed them. 

 

[jkvlondon]

20 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

https://www.scribd.com/document/50629845/Uggardanti-Punjabi-and-English-Translation-Thanks-dalsingh101-Veerji

XhI bynqI Kws hmrI suxIjY ]Asur mwr kr r`C gaUAn krIjY ]

ieho myrI Kws Arz suxo [rwkiSSW (AsurW) nUM mwrky gaU (grIb) dI rkSW kro [

Kindly adhere to my specific request.Annihilate the evil demons and safeguard the cow (destitute).

https://www.scribd.com/document/50629845/Uggardanti-Punjabi-and-English-Translation-Thanks-dalsingh101-Veerji

XhI bynqI Kws hmrI suxIjY ]Asur mwr kr r`C gaUAn krIjY ]

ieho myrI Kws Arz suxo [rwkiSSW (AsurW) nUM mwrky gaU (grIb) dI rkSW kro [

Kindly adhere to my specific request.Annihilate the evil demons and safeguard the cow (destitute).

 

sometimes Guru ji is talking about nirguna niraankar. Many hindus only do pooja of sarguna saroop, while we have been told nirguna sargun nirankaar. So sikhis is different from nay hindu panths, and distinct in a way. Still, the colonialism complete divorce from hindus is also inaccurate.

maybe Gau is refering to the innocent, placid, non-aggressive persons not necessaryily literal cow

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

We cannot eat that whose milk we drink. Even jewish ppl, they do not allow mixing of dairy and meat just for this reason. So a cow is not cooked with ots own mothers milk.

Also, we cant have beef in a land where vegetarians raise cows.

Vegans think its horrible to drink milk. Because cows are artificially impregnanated to keep them lactating and.their male sons are sent to slaighter. 

So if we allow beef, all vegetarians who drink milk are complicit in meat eating and killing of calves. So it becomes part of their karma. Even if they dont eat meat. They will suffer from it. 

So that is why. In india where the only animal tamed and raised is cows. We cant kill them. 

If meat eaters want to eat meat. They can raise their own chicken. Sheep. And goats. 

But we dont want dairies becoming part of the meat market. If we allow beef. Dairies will start sending their sick cows and male calf to underhandedly to the slaughterhouses. And then vegetarians will be hypocrites. And vegetarians must drink milk due to vit B12 coming from animals only. 

To remain humane and properly vegetarian, all ppl should agree not to kill that whose milk we drink. 

Even muslims in india agreed to use goats as halaal and sacrifice. As do the nihang sikhs. 

But now the muslims are making a fuss. And demanding more. I think the dairy owners are behind it. 

Ofc ppl who let their cows wander in the streets once they r no longer lactating. Are also hypocrites. 

I think india should make it a law. That any freely wandering cows can be killed and eaten. That way ppl cant be hypocrites that release the old cows so they dont have to feed them. 

 

isn't it a form of namak h4r4mi , you grow using her milk to nourish your children and selves then instead of being grateful you send her to the kasaie to eat her flesh .Att aghiratghana and the question of not killing cows this is a lie India is currently the biggest exporter of beef beating Brasil - meaning they are definitely killing cows .

[Big_Tera]

Way to many vegetarians and vegans think their farts smell of roses. 

What they dont know is veg and milk production also hurts the earth. At the end of the day the mantra is not to harm any living thing, the enviroment and the planet which all has a knock on effect. 

growing vegetables causes pollution and all kinds of harm to the soil causing degradation. 

I concentrate on eating game meats such as pheasant and partirdge. This is not mass produced like chicken

 

 

[jkvlondon]

8 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Way to many vegetarians and vegans think their farts smell of roses. 

What they dont know is veg and milk production also hurts the earth. At the end of the day the mantra is not to harm any living thing, the enviroment and the planet which all has a knock on effect. 

growing vegetables causes pollution and all kinds of harm to the soil causing degradation. 

I concentrate on eating game meats such as pheasant and partirdge. This is not mass produced like chicken

 

 

hunted meat is NOT sustainable for the majority of population be real  and there is no question animal husbandry is cruel in the extreme there is no daya , and you know where there is no daya there can be no dharam.