Thoughts on Buddha ?

[jkvlondon]

big question is despite his leaving his home and wife did he change society for the better really or just copied the hindu sanyasis and ran away from the problems of the world ? He could have stayed in his kingdom and been a monk king who used the maya he was blessed with to improve the lives of the suffering instead assuaging his own feelings of sadness, guilt  and confusion in the hills and caves in a solitary manner . Guru Sahiban are dhan dhan dhan for teaching us how to make the world just through grisht jeevan and taking responsibility.

[FreshMind13]

ਅਥ ਬਊਧ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਤੇਈਸਵੌ ਕਥਨੰ ॥
Now begins the description of the twenty-third Buddha incarnation
ਚੌਪਈ ॥
CHAUPAI
ਅਬ ਮੈ ਗਨੋ ਬਊਧ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥
ਜੈਸ ਰੂਪ ਕਹੁ ਧਰਾ ਮੁਰਾਰਾ ॥
Now I describe the Buddha incarnation as to how the Lord assumed this form
ਬਊਧ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਇਹੀ ਕੋ ਨਾਊ ॥
ਜਾਕਰ ਨਾਵ ਨ ਥਾਵ ਨ ਗਾਊ ॥੧॥
Buddha incarnation is the name of that one, who has no name, no place and no villate.1.
ਜਾਕਰ ਨਾਵ ਨ ਠਾਵ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥
ਬਊਧ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਵਹੀ ਪਹਚਾਨਾ ॥
He, whose name and place are not described, he is only known as the Buddha incarnation
ਸਿਲਾ ਸਰੂਪ ਰੂਪ ਤਿਹ ਜਾਨਾ ॥
ਕਥਾ ਨ ਜਾਹਿ ਕਲੂ ਮਹਿ ਮਾਨਾ ॥੨॥
No one has accepted his sayings in the Iron Age, who visualizes the beauty only in stone (idols).2.

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥
DOHRA
ਰੂਪ ਰੇਖ ਜਾਕਰ ਨ ਕਛੁ ਅਰੁ ਕਛੁ ਨਹਿਨ ਆਕਾਰ ॥
Neither he is beautiful nor he does any work
ਸਿਲਾ ਰੂਪ ਬਰਤਤ ਜਗਤ ਸੋ ਬਊਧ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥੩॥
He considers the whole world like stone and calls himself the Buddha incarnation.3.
ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੇ ਬਊਧ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਤੇਈਸਵੋ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ਸਤੁ ਸੁਭਮ ਸਤੁ ॥੨੩॥
Here ends the description of Buddha Incarnation in Bachittar Natak.23.

[Gagan1995]

5 hours ago, JSinghnz said:

Buddha was a coward who ran away from life.

Go read a book before  spouting garbage like an ignorant bigot. 

[FreshMind13]

2 hours ago, Gagan1995 said:

Go read a book before  spouting garbage like an ignorant bigot. 

Go read Guru Sahib's Dasam Baani before calling someone a bigot.

[Gagan1995]

18 minutes ago, FreshMind13 said:

Go read Guru Sahib's Dasam Baani before calling someone a bigot.

That low life is insulting Buddha, Buddha came to end the Hindoo hell that is the caste system well before Guru Nanak was even born. Show some respect, because some of you sound like intolerant islamic pigs. Personally I rather have buddhist in Panjab than Hindus , and in the rest of the country as well. 

[JSinghnz]

37 minutes ago, Gagan1995 said:

That low life is insulting Buddha, Buddha came to end the Hindoo hell that is the caste system well before Guru Nanak was even born. Show some respect, because some of you sound like intolerant islamic pigs. Personally I rather have buddhist in Panjab than Hindus , and in the rest of the country as well. 

Mind your crap language retard

[Gagan1995]

17 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

Mind your crap language retard

First, learn to write a proper coherent sentence, before calling people " retards" , mongoloid duffer. 

[FreshMind13]

1 hour ago, Gagan1995 said:

That low life is insulting Buddha, Buddha came to end the Hindoo hell that is the caste system well before Guru Nanak was even born. Show some respect, because some of you sound like intolerant islamic pigs. Personally I rather have buddhist in Panjab than Hindus , and in the rest of the country as well. 

Dude? Did you even read what I quoted from Choubees Avtaar written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji?

[JSinghnz]

39 minutes ago, Gagan1995 said:

First, learn to write a proper coherent sentence, before calling people " retards" , mongoloid duffer. 

Don't forget to take your retardness pills before posting next time.

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

10 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

big question is despite his leaving his home and wife did he change society for the better really or just copied the hindu sanyasis and ran away from the problems of the world ? He could have stayed in his kingdom and been a monk king who used the maya he was blessed with to improve the lives of the suffering instead assuaging his own feelings of sadness, guilt  and confusion in the hills and caves in a solitary manner . Guru Sahiban are dhan dhan dhan for teaching us how to make the world just through grisht jeevan and taking responsibility.

For god's sake sake , and to other posters here too , lets not slander a saint . Yes that what buddha was . A brahmgiani . And if you still wanna slander a saintly person, then first read the punishments mentioned in 13th ashtapadi of sukhmani sahib. 

How many of you , if you were born in a royal family and a newly wed life with a son , would be brave enough to foresake all of it and wander in forests , that too without a guru , to search for the higher truths of life. Well buddha did that and while I don't consider him a role model , he got his fair share of respect . 

Buddha seriously did a lot of tapp . There's a famous story about him. He tried all different meditations . Back then , ppl either used to starve themselves to almost death in spiritual pursuits or were over-indulgent in pleasures and luxuries. Buddha tried to starve himself though , and got so weak that once he fell while walking . As it was kismat, a music student and his teacher was passing from nearby . The music student asked his teacher "Sir , how much should we keep the tension in the cords of this plucked instrument?" . "Not so much that the string breaks, and not so little that no melody is generated. Not too much , not too little, but moderate" replied the teacher.

Buddha overheard this conversation and he finally found his way . Not too much of giving pain to body , not too little by being complacent. He finally reached the site of bodh gaya and after doing intense nonstop tapasya under a fig tree, he at the next amritvela attained brahmgyaan. 

In his own words 

"this is my last birth, I shall never be born again" .

Buddha rejected varna vyavastha (caste system) of the indian society back at a time when caste system of 4 varnas was not even deeply entrenched . He said "By one's karma , one obtains a caste, not by birth".

So buddha's way is still referred today as "middle way" , a way of moderation , but it still required one to foresake sansar and go to forests and leave one's family.

Guru Nanak dev ji maharaj further incremented on this and said moderate is the key but you can stay with your family and still achieve this.