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On 9/21/2018 at 6:30 PM, Guest Logical Sikh said:

Ok lets see this from other perspective ...... 

SIKHI IS NOT ABOUT BEING SELFISH..... Look at other other communities, the Dalits, the jats, the muslims, Christians in india. They are fighting for their rights too.... Just like any sikh is fighting.... There is a wave of youth building to agaist the corrupted leaders of the GOVERNMENT..... Why are we soooo self centered and concerned only about OUR PUNJAB ...  was a SIKH always like this ? I dont think so....  A SIKH has always fought for other people's RIGHTS..... As i said Because of the social media.... A wave of KRANTI has started developing in the youth of INDIA.... So why dont we stop being A KID and actually JOIN the wave to do SARBAT DA BHALA rather than thinking abt only SIKHS...... 

Nd as far as i think this whole referendum thing is just a publicity stunt by pannu..... They just want to shift the GOVERNANCE from ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER ...... Same thing happened in 1947.... Only the RULING PARTY will change nothing else.....

Lets join the NEW WAVE and make INDIA GREAT so that our GURUs would actually be proud of his sikhs that they are not thinking only abt themselves but abt more 1BILLION+ population.... 

Sikhs need to save themselves before going about saving others!  I hear this ‘Sarbat da bhallla’ quote being used quite a lot amongst people who want to derail Sikh aspirations.  Literally telling Sikhs to forget about their own community betterment and only using energy to serve the people who are out their to destroy you.  Forget that!  Gurpatwant Singh Pannu needs to be supported by all Sikhs regardless of which Jathebandia they belong to, as his idea of referendum has sent shockwaves through Delhi which is something that has clearly riled the so called democracy.  Stay united on this one and support anyone or any idea which is fighting for the Sikh goal of freedom.  All out war on all fronts should be waged and supported whether that is by referendum, human rights campaigns, supporting other oppressed minorities, media, arts, Sikhi Parchar etc.  With a collective effort victory shall be ours!

 

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On 8/19/2018 at 1:50 PM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

If Gurpatwant Singh Pannu , who I suspect is a muslim/ISI agent himself was such a pained gursikh, then why he is a patit himself ?

Jinah was kafir who who enjoyed wine, eating pork and womanising western women, but he delivered a sovereign state in the name of ‘Pakistan’ to the Mullas sitting in British India.  See how stupid your argument is now!  I suspect you are a RSS or Indian Agent now!

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19 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

Sikhs need to save themselves before going about saving others!  I hear this ‘Sarbat da bhallla’ quote being used quite a lot amongst people who want to derail Sikh aspirations.  Literally telling Sikhs to forget about their own community betterment and only using energy to serve the people who are out their to destroy you.  Forget that!  Gurpatwant Singh Pannu needs to be supported by all Sikhs regardless of which Jathebandia they belong to, as his idea of referendum has sent shockwaves through Delhi which is something that has clearly riled the so called democracy.  Stay united on this one and support anyone or any idea which is fighting for the Sikh goal of freedom.  All out war on all fronts should be waged and supported whether that is by referendum, human rights campaigns, supporting other oppressed minorities, media, arts, Sikhi Parchar etc.  With a collective effort victory shall be ours!

 

okay then good luck getting REFERENDUM.

 

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19 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

Sikhs need to save themselves before going about saving others!  I hear this ‘Sarbat da bhallla’ quote being used quite a lot amongst people who want to derail Sikh aspirations.  Literally telling Sikhs to forget about their own community betterment and only using energy to serve the people who are out their to destroy you.  Forget that!  Gurpatwant Singh Pannu needs to be supported by all Sikhs regardless of which Jathebandia they belong to, as his idea of referendum has sent shockwaves through Delhi which is something that has clearly riled the so called democracy.  Stay united on this one and support anyone or any idea which is fighting for the Sikh goal of freedom.  All out war on all fronts should be waged and supported whether that is by referendum, human rights campaigns, supporting other oppressed minorities, media, arts, Sikhi Parchar etc.  With a collective effort victory shall be ours!

 

you're missing the bigger picture,

Do you really think you're gonna ask for referendum and they gonna give you what you want ?

Do you really think they gonna give you terr. from Himalayas to Rajasthan or whatever you askin'

they wont even give you Amritsar like that........

You Guys just........ i dont know where ya'll are living........ 

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24 minutes ago, Punjabiwolves said:

 

The whole 2020 referendum is a scam and it will not result in anything why ? here's why?

1)  GOI will not just hand over Punjab? it will keep it any cost  as its bordering state with Pakistan 

2) Pakistan supports this referendum and Khalistan for its own purpose  so it can use Khalistan to get closer to New Delhi

3) India will want to keep all its states and land intact, it will fight tooth and nail for it, just look at the Kashmir conflict. India will flight China over parts of Sikkim

4) The best chance for Khalistan was I 1947 than 1980's. Now it's a dead movement which has been revived but its nothing more than A zombie

5) Whether we like it or not India is a major player in Todays world. The UK, USA want to keep India sweet as they want good trade deals. They are not going to fully support Khalistan, Russia will fully support India. 

6) Instead of focusing on Khalistan we should focus on improving Punjab. More jobs, a better education system. more urbanisation, basically making Punjab to living standards in the west. 

7) We should have the aim of doing parchars across India to increase the number of Sikhs.not forcefully but by choice. Hinduism is on the decline. 

8.Point number 6 may sadly maybe unrealistic, 10 even 20 years from now we could be having the same discussion but matters might be worst. so what can we do ?  we need to set realistic year on year targets what can be achieved then work from there. The main thing to see a change in a short time and not this waiting around planning 2-4 years for a referendum that will have little or no impact.  waiting hoping and shouting Khalistan slogans is all that's been done and what effect has it had . do you want this to carry one for the next 10 20 even 40 years ? 

Yes the whole referendum 2020 is a scam because it will place the spotlight on the worlds lagest democracy for denying a legal binding referendum to take place on its soil.

Yes it is a scam because the will of the people is crushed with brutality in democracy.

Yes it’s a scam because it ultimately will benefit all Punjabis but mostly Sikhs living in Punjab or the diaspora.

Yes it must be scam because the neighbouring country wants India to fail as country even though this will benefit all Sikhs living within its territory or in the diaspora.

The whole thing is scam as only the RSS, Raw and the bootlickers of India dressed as Lions but surely sheep underneath the image can see this.  

The best way for freedom is to make Punjab prosper as this will surely strengthen the case for our fellow Sikhs in Punjab to look for an alternative for their miserable lives.

I can’t believe this!  

 

 

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2 hours ago, Guest Anonymous said:

you're missing the bigger picture,

Do you really think you're gonna ask for referendum and they gonna give you what you want ?

Do you really think they gonna give you terr. from Himalayas to Rajasthan or whatever you askin'

they wont even give you Amritsar like that........

You Guys just........ i dont know where ya'll are living........ 

I couldn’t care less wether India gives us a referendum or not.  The world needs to see and most importantly the Sikhs inside Punjab need to see that they are living under a facist regime which is no different to the Mughals of past.  This will prove to the world that India is a joke And deserves no place within the UN.  

Do you now see the bigger picture of why this referendum is soiling the dhotis of India and do see this could trigger other states to follow Punjab referendum.

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On 9/26/2018 at 10:33 PM, TigerForce1 said:

Pannu needs to be supported by all Sikhs regardless of which Jathebandia 

Singh Ji I respect your sincerity but when Pannun raised massive funds at Gurdwara Makhan Shah Labana in New York a while back without accounting for where those funds were used for exactly (on the pretext of 2020) it was the first red flag about him as an individual. Now him aligning the cause for an independent Punjab with overt Pakistani support raises serious questions about his lack of judgement. Will the same people responsible for the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs and the ongoing supply of heroine in Punjab suddenly become the best friends of Sikhs? So on one side the Pakistani's co-operate with Delhi in drugging out and destroying younger Sikh generations but just because they throw a bone of operating the SFJ website and sending speakers like Lord Nazir Ahmed to chant "Khalistan Zindabad" they are suddenly to be trusted?

15 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

Yes the whole referendum 2020 is a scam because it will place the spotlight on the worlds largest democracy for denying a legal binding referendum to take place on its soil.

China isn't even a democracy yet the West could give two hoots about how the Chinese oppress Tibetans. Similarly USA, Russia, UK, Canada, France all care more about business with 1.3 billion Indians than human rights for Sikhs.

Yes it’s a scam because it ultimately will benefit all Punjabis but mostly Sikhs living in Punjab or the diaspora.

How will an online referendum overseas which is legally non-binding help Sikhs in east Punjab in any way shape or form? This stunt is actually benefitting the enemies of Sikhs (like Captain) and is hurting inward investment into Punjab's economy by NRI's who are being treated with contempt by Captain. All the Canadian Sikh MP's and both British Sikh MP's have treated it as the meaningless stunt that it is. 

Yes it must be scam because the neighbouring country wants India to fail

That's just the thing. Pakistan's Army is smart. It doesn't want India to fail completely. Because India is what helps hold Pakistan together. They just want India and Sikhs to mutually bleed and be a market for Pakistani drugs. If India split into constituent states then so obviously would Pakistan and so would the gravy train of Pakistani Army funding collapse. So Pakistan knows 2020 is meaningless but it strategically weakens India to a degree and generates tourism revenue to Pakistan (by portraying Pakistan as a friend of Sikhs). Pannun has already stated with the Pakistani's that he and SFJ will be campaigning for 2020 extensively from Pakistan next year in 2019. And obviously the Pakistani Punjabi's are licking their lips at the naive Sikhs who will spend millions enriching the Pakistani economy there in 2019 whilst those same Sikhs cannot help poor Sikhs in Punjab with financial help or investment but are happy staying in 4 and 5 star hotels in Pakistan singing the praises of those who ethnically cleansed all Sikhs out in the Pakistan Genocide of Sikhs in 1947.

 

 

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21 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

I couldn’t care less wether India gives us a referendum or not.  The world needs to see and most importantly the Sikhs inside Punjab need to see that they are living under a facist regime which is no different to the Mughals of past.  This will prove to the world that India is a joke And deserves no place within the UN.  

Do you now see the bigger picture of why this referendum is soiling the dhotis of India and do see this could trigger other states to follow Punjab referendum.

These guys are coming seeing only where there profite is.... They only want power..... You too( if ya included) ..... Talkin' abt people's right in india.... Man did these came out of there shells or did they ever spoke when the students are getting mistreatment all over .... Did they speak when GURMEHAR KAUR was targetted...... Did they speak when KANHAYIA KUMAR and UMAR KHALID was arrested....... Did they speak when A common Man is Beaten To death ? ..... No, because the So Called REFERENDUM Wont give them POWER in other states..... They only care abt POWER ....... STOP ASTRAYING PEOPLE.... you are WASTING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY

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