New BBC Documentary on Maharaj Duleep Singh

[singh598]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bfnldw

[puzzled]

Interesting but I don't understand why some sikhs look up to him or see him as a iconic figure and the rest of it. I'v read his biography and his life was just full of sex, alcohol and gambling and near the end regrets. Even his daughters were better than him 

[californiasardar1]

3 hours ago, puzzled said:

Interesting but I don't understand why some sikhs look up to him or see him as a iconic figure and the rest of it. I'v read his biography and his life was just full of sex, alcohol and gambling and near the end regrets. Even his daughters were better than him 

 

 

I agree.

 

Duleep Singh was deadweight.  And his "change of heart" towards the end of his life was fake and misleading.  His life was in ruins and he was desperate for money and status.  Does anyone really believe he got into Sikhi and had a spiritual reawakening?  If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

[puzzled]

2 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

 

I agree.

 

Duleep Singh was deadweight.  And his "change of heart" towards the end of his life was fake and misleading.  His life was in ruins and he was desperate for money and status.  Does anyone really believe he got into Sikhi and had a spiritual reawakening?  If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

Absolutely, he supposedly got reintroduced to Sikhi when his mother Maharani Jind Kaur was given permission by the British to live with him in the UK and she touched his face(she was near blind) and was disappointed when she felt no dhari or dastar. He then apparently had a spiritual awakening and got back into Sikhi. That is a big fat lie. She most likely was horrified when she felt no beard or hair on him but he definitely did not go back to sikhi. Even if you look at photo's of him after rani jind kaurs death he is a monah with no dhari! He was given permission to take rani jind kaurs remains to Bombay and cremate her, on his way back he married some half Ethiopian/German Christian girl called Bamba. He was an alcoholic and hardly gave much time to his wife and kids and spent most his time with prostitutes and wasting money on gambling . His wife was penniless and rejected, she became depressed and started drinking heavily and died of liver failure. his kids were raised my nanys and didn't have much of a childhood. He had very little contact with his kids and never visited them, he only wrote a letter like once a year. He then went to France and wasted whatever money he had on more gambling and prostitutes and died with nothing!  his flop attempt to go back to Punjab and run "his" empire had nothing to do with Sikhi but was his hunger for wealth and status.   I really don't understand why some sikhs celebrate his life and have started giving him an important status! 

[puzzled]

That photo of him where he's fat and sitting on the chair is from the 1880s. That is way after rani Jind kaurs death, and he still has his dhari trimmed!   and that is one weird looking trim hahah! i think thats how Victorian goreh did their dharis.  he was a waste man and didn't give a toss about Sikhi  

ps  he aged really badly all that alcohol didn't do him any good

[singh598]

Another important lesson to learn is how one documentary that appears factual is not.  

[singh598]

10 hours ago, puzzled said:

 his life was just full of sex, alcohol and gambling and near the end regrets. Even his daughters were better than him 

A  bit like his father then 

[Big_Tera]

I dont believe in this maharaja nonsence. 

Some people actually look up to these so called kings and queens. 

I think it is wrong to say. ' he was the last maharaja of the sikhs'

He was certainly not my maharaja. Infact If I would have met him  He would get one big thapar against his silly face.

The british did a good job boosting certain communities ego. 

[puzzled]

19 hours ago, singh598 said:

A  bit like his father then 

LOL!  yes his father did have weaknesses but at least he did a lot for Sikhs. He was a humble man especially when it came to Sikhi.

[Bundha]

So, one of you would like to give Duleep Singh a thuppar and the rest of you would just diss him.  Must make you feel so big as Sikhs.

 

This was a 9 year old child who was ripped from his mothers arms, taken away from all that he loved and was isolated.

No mother, no family, no friends, no advisors, nobody to give him any guidance. He was surrounded by evil people who manipulated him for their own means, he had nobody  to turn to. They then set him up  with a paster. He manipulated him and slowly his brain was washed. He had no choice, he was a child surrounded by those who just used him. The british let him loaf about and do his thing, renovating his house etc but kept a close eye on him and never let him meet any other Sikhs.

 

Is this what Guru Nanak Dev Ji taught us? Did Guru Ji give Sujjan Tagh a thuppar?

 

Rather than say, if I met him  - I would give him a huge hug, taking away the pain and suffering he endured for all those years - you would give him a thuppar!

 

Where are your feelings as a Sikh? Your compassion, your empathy, your understanding of his situation? Is this what todays Sikhs are like ?