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Been watching these brilliantly researched videos by respected patarkar Surinder Singh. They provide a real insight into the political ongoings,  uprisings of the Sikhs and of course treachery and injustices pre and post the events of the 1978 Amritsar Saka. Personally on the 4th video and thoroughly recommend watching.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just one thing, why do we keep using words and terminology which belongs to another religion? Mard e Mujahid - a Muhjahid is an Islamic warrior who takes part in a Jihad. A Jihad is a war specifi

Been watching these brilliantly researched videos by respected patarkar Surinder Singh. They provide a real insight into the political ongoings,  uprisings of the Sikhs and of course treachery and inj

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Punjabi media likes using fancy persian words a lot. People like satinder satti. I dnt even know what she talking about sometimes.It's stupid really. 

I dnt think theres anything wrong with the photo used though. Though there are lots of photos of sant ji smiling so I'm not sure while people use the serious ones all the time. 

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4 hours ago, proactive said:

Just one thing, why do we keep using words and terminology which belongs to another religion?

Mard e Mujahid - a Muhjahid is an Islamic warrior who takes part in a Jihad. A Jihad is a war specifically started to defend or spread Islam. The war allows loot as well as enslavement of women and children as well as rape. WHY THE F&&& are we using these terms which are totally counter to what Santji was doing? If a western non-Sikh was to see that picture he would automatically associate Santji with ISIS or the Taliban. We are the worst at shooting ourselves in the foot. Also using terminology that is not a part of our religion and language shows lack of self confidence in our own religion and language. There are a number of terms in Punjabi that could be used to replace Mard e Mujahid. 

One of many subtle yet ultimately significant issues that we neglect because we just lack the intelligence to assess the bigger picture and analyse things beyond our narrow perspective.

I feel in this particular situation of the videos being discussed above, to offer the opposing argument for a moment, Guru Gobind Singh Ji was an enthusiastic proponent of the Persian language, and I think that's maybe used as a justification for some contemporary Sikhs continuing that tradition in various aspects of their own discourse. I think it's a way of honouring and respecting Guru Sahib's tastes. But as you said, taking into account the world we live in and the negative optics for our cause that using Islamic language would have for our own interests, we should be smarter when making these decisions.

I'm constantly exasperated at the insular understanding Indian-resident Sikhs possess, in as much as how they fail to understand the impact of the non-Sikh wider world and how it impacts on Sikh issues. Nothing occurs in isolation. 

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10 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I'm constantly exasperated at the insular understanding Indian-resident Sikhs possess, in as much as how they fail to understand the impact of the non-Sikh wider world and how it impacts on Sikh issues. Nothing occurs in isolation. 

Please don't brush us all with the same pic, but yes a certain mindset of idiots do exist in punjab , the romantics of Persian and islamic connotations in Sikhi , and they like to caricature it by exploding it beyond recognition .

 

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1 minute ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Please don't brush us all with the same pic, but yes a certain mindset of idiots do exist in punjab , the romantics of Persian and islamic connotations in Sikhi , and they like to caricature it by exploding it beyond recognition .

 

Not you, bro. I'm referring to Sikhs in positions of authority in the Panth.

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57 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Not you, bro. I'm referring to Sikhs in positions of authority in the Panth.

like udhoke u mean lol. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who made up this jihadi sounding term

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Using terms like Mard e Mujahid is highly irresponsible. Hindus are always ready to paint the Sikh movement as similar to Islamic terrorism and Sant ji as the Osama Bin Laden of the Sikhs. It doesn't help when we have utter moorakhs in our own ranks also pushing the narrative and using Islamic terms exclusively reserved for Islamic Jihadis. This is usually done by educated Sikh journalists from India such as Surinder Singh journalist, Harpreet Makhu, Udoke. They probably do it to distance themselves from Hindus so they want to show themselves as being similar to Muslims.

There are other common traits among these journalists. 

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9 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

Using terms like Mard e Mujahid is highly irresponsible. Hindus are always ready to paint the Sikh movement as similar to Islamic terrorism and Sant ji as the Osama Bin Laden of the Sikhs. It doesn't help when we have utter moorakhs in our own ranks also pushing the narrative and using Islamic terms exclusively reserved for Islamic Jihadis. This is usually done by educated Sikh journalists from India such as Surinder Singh journalist, Harpreet Makhu, Udoke. They probably do it to distance themselves from Hindus so they want to show themselves as being similar to Muslims.

There are other common traits among these journalists. 

so true. the idiocy among these lot is really stupendous 

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