Virgin Birth in Sikhi

[Big_Tera]

8 minutes ago, sikhni777 said:

  If being born by virgins was something honorable then the Gurus would have strived to get to that level. 

So was Jesus born in kalyug or satyug? There are reports that angels came to earth.. to multiply after they were tempted by beautiful women. However the children born to them were not through virgin birth. 

So  was that angel special who was sent to Mary, who was engaged anyway? So what was the hurry that Jesus had to be born of a virgin, when Mary was going to be married after a short while and Jesus could be concieved the normal way as everyone else?

Was that the only way people would believe that he is the son of God? Despite the fact that he performed every type of miracle known to man, the Romans still doubted him and had him killed. 

Judas!

[puzzled]

On 8/30/2018 at 3:19 PM, jkvlondon said:

honestly these 'virgin' births are written many years after to make more of the avtars arrival ...

realistically Jospeh and Mary had a normal marriage and the result was Jesus but that may not have been mysterious and holy enough for the early churches who wanted to venerate the messenger above the message in the flavour of their previous gods and goddesses . parallels with previous religions have been drawn by scholars including rewritting jesus history to coincide with pagan festivals .

Our First Guru came after an older sister did this make him any lesser , no ...so leave all this mythmaking to the lost ...

Possibly could be true...   The Hebrew word "Almah" which Christians translated as "virgin"  actually means "young maiden" in Hebrew. The gospels are not in their original language, the original language i think was Aramaic. The gospels have been passed down orallyy and then translated, edited, rewritten so many times that the word virgin and young maiden could of got mixed up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almah

But you never know it could be true! Sita is said to have been a virgin too! That's why they say that when they made her walk through the fire after questioning how pure she was after having spent time with ravaan, she walked though the fire without getting burnt. Interestingly they still forced her to leave ayodha and go back to the jungles!    

[puzzled]

20 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Apart from Jesus cant think of any virgin births.

Hindus claim that Sita was pure and untouched because Ram was god like and beyond vices like kaam, Krodh etc, he was perfect,  so her sons were not conceived but was a virgin birth...   

They say the same about Krishna, he was god like and perfect, without Kaam, Krodh etc  

[puzzled]

I know he's a Jew but still interesting video 

[mahandulai]

On 8/29/2018 at 8:38 PM, puzzled said:

Very random question lol, but just wondering are there any stories of virgin births in Sikhi? just curious to know ...

Many religions claim to have some story of a virgin birth, the most well known being Jesus, The quran also states that mary was a virgin. In Hinduism they have virgin births too, I think sita and ram did not have a physical relationship, she was "pavitar", but she gave birth to two sons. There are stories of virgin births in ancient Egypt and other ancient religions.

I read how Kabir Ji had a virgin birth. 

Does this all go against Sikhi? 

scientifically this is 99.999 percent impossible. It may happen randomly, or if sperm has somehow got into the uterus by accident, or on purpose. It can also be via surrogation or in vitro fertilisation.

If your asking about a Jesus Christ - kind of story, then I don't see the point, its not relevant.

[puzzled]

32 minutes ago, mahandulai said:

scientifically this is 99.999 percent impossible. It may happen randomly, or if sperm has somehow got into the uterus by accident, or on purpose. It can also be via surrogation or in vitro fertilisation.

If your asking about a Jesus Christ - kind of story, then I don't see the point, its not relevant.

scientifically Sikhi, waheguru, Guru's are nothing but a fairy tale. According to science there is no creator. Science would also deny baba deep singh jis saheedi and all the other saheeds are all fairy tales.  

 

[JSinghnz]

10 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

How dare you question Mary as not being a virgin!! It was a miraculous conception. Jesus was born in a barn and stable as all hotels were fully booked at the time. There were also the three wise men. It has all be proven and verified. Also at the time the was no tripadvisor or booking.com to find a room 

The bible is the word of God. Stop doubting it!! All should accept jesus as the saviour! Amen and Hallelujah 

 YOU JUDAS

Lol good one

[mahandulai]

16 hours ago, puzzled said:

scientifically Sikhi, waheguru, Guru's are nothing but a fairy tale. According to science there is no creator. Science would also deny baba deep singh jis saheedi and all the other saheeds are all fairy tales.  

 

according to science and spirituality you are wrong, 'god' particles, 'god' helmets, laws of entropy, explain otherwise mate. 

Adrenaline surges in women can let them lift cars to save their children. Science explains a lot. Some science we dont know yet. Plants and certain mixtures and years of training on the mind, would allow Baba Deep Singh to do what he did in reality. For the magical and mystical reason there is always science. 

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, mahandulai said:

according to science and spirituality you are wrong, 'god' particles, 'god' helmets, laws of entropy, explain otherwise mate. 

Adrenaline surges in women can let them lift cars to save their children. Science explains a lot. Some science we dont know yet. Plants and certain mixtures and years of training on the mind, would allow Baba Deep Singh to do what he did in reality. For the magical and mystical reason there is always science. 

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

there was a chicken that lived for some time without its head  Mike  but even science had to have a good head scratch to work that one out  BTW he lived for 18 months further
https://modernfarmer.com/2014/08/heres-chicken-can-live-without-head/

also quantam physics is beginning to realise how 'impossible' phenomena happen ...it's all naad

[sikhni777]

21 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Judas!

Judas betrayed him for gold. The Romans hung him on a cross.