Sikhs have a dark future if things continue like this ... and today's day is just one of those pointers.

[Guest]

Today marks the hindu festival Ganesh chaturti , the 10 day festival where one of the hindu gods ganesha is being worshipped by hindus all over. Well congratulations to hindus ,  But why the heck are Sikhs are being "begani shaadi main abdullah deewana" (the crazy <banned word filter activated> is dancing in someone else's wedding thinking as if his own) in all this festivities. 

What relation do sikhs have with ganesh ? nothing !! zilch . nada ! 

Rather Saahib e kamaal Dasam patshah said

"Main na ganeshe pritham manao , kishan bishan kabhu na dhyayu . Kaan suneh pehchaan na in seo . Live laagi mori pag in seo"

(I do NOT consider ganesha as the supreme , nor do I meditate on krishna on vishnu. I have only heard of them but I don't recognize them. I am attached to the lord's feet)

Yet hundreds of thousands of sikhs will on this day , just like their hindu neighbors bring a lifeless idol in their homes, feed it and worship it , only to drown it on 10th day. We're doing crazy batsshit things which our gurus forbid us to . I honestly can't stand such idiocy among a section of sikh masses ! what is it that our gurus didn't clearly explain us ?

yet the buffoons amongst us will go on to celebrate someone else's festival and not having knowledge of our own ! 

These are the same people who slander amritdharis . and despite having sikh appearances, these are some of the most dreaded people I have ever come across. Ask them when they're having next sangati sukhmani sahib paath and you probably wouldn't get as much of an enthusiastic answer as you get for ganesh chaturti ! 

 

[jkvlondon]

4 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Today marks the hindu festival Ganesh chaturti , the 10 day festival where one of the hindu gods ganesha is being worshipped by hindus all over. Well congratulations to hindus ,  But why the heck are Sikhs are being "begani shaadi main abdullah deewana" (the crazy <banned word filter activated> is dancing in someone else's wedding thinking as if his own) in all this festivities. 

What relation do sikhs have with ganesh ? nothing !! zilch . nada ! 

Rather Saahib e kamaal Dasam patshah said

"Main na ganeshe pritham manao , kishan bishan kabhu na dhyayu . Kaan suneh pehchaan na in seo . Live laagi mori pag in seo"

(I do NOT consider ganesha as the supreme , nor do I meditate on krishna on vishnu. I have only heard of them but I don't recognize them. I am attached to the lord's feet)

Yet hundreds of thousands of sikhs will on this day , just like their hindu neighbors bring a lifeless idol in their homes, feed it and worship it , only to drown it on 10th day. We're doing crazy batsshit things which our gurus forbid us to . I honestly can't stand such idiocy among a section of sikh masses ! what is it that our gurus didn't clearly explain us ?

yet the buffoons amongst us will go on to celebrate someone else's festival and not having knowledge of our own ! 

These are the same people who slander amritdharis . and despite having sikh appearances, these are some of the most dreaded people I have ever come across. Ask them when they're having next sangati sukhmani sahib paath and you probably wouldn't get as much of an enthusiastic answer as you get for ganesh chaturti ! 

 

Don't worry you'll soon get people coming on and chiming in about communal harmony blah blah blah....

Let me tell you what will happen ...your kids will think we are OK to do this <banned word filter activated> ....which will eventually lead to well there's nothing wrong with marrying hindus 

\this has happened with my Mama's daughter he was so busy being a modern dad  i.e. friends with her  and allowing her complete freedom to just hang around with hindus day in and out  without any warnings about saying niari . Encouraging her to socialise by going to college 'concerts' like the type that promote gandh  even joining in with hindu ceremonies with his regimental mates . Same with mother she was from a family that was active in promoting sikhi during the eighties but she's now licking her wounds after her daughter announced she's marrying a hindu from maharastra.

The shame of it is also she had a bright future because she was in the civil engineering field , well educated, beautiful, smart  and would have been an asset to the sikh population but now she's been snapped up by a backward thinking people and will probably be forced to bring up the kids as hindus .Wonder if 'nana' will be happy at the mundan of his dothe dothian?
And another sikh bloodline bites the dust.

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

11 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Don't worry you'll soon get people coming on and chiming in about communal harmony blah blah blah....

Let me tell you what will happen ...your kids will think we are OK to do this <banned word filter activated> ....which will eventually lead to well there's nothing wrong with marrying hindus 

\this has happened with my Mama's daughter he was so busy being a modern dad  i.e. friends with her  and allowing her complete freedom to just hang around with hindus day in and out  without any warnings about saying niari . Encouraging her to socialise by going to college 'concerts' like the type that promote gandh  even joining in with hindu ceremonies with his regimental mates . Same with mother she was from a family that was active in promoting sikhi during the eighties but she's now licking her wounds after her daughter announced she's marrying a hindu from maharastra

Sister , I will tell you something about some of these females with the qaum, but don't feel offended . I am not being sexist, but its a fact I have seen in some families how shameless sikh (or should I say hindu , because they look mostly hindu) women are pushing shamelessly brahminvaad within our sikh families. My finances aunt whose own husband is a saabat soorat sikh , atleast by appearance but she's brought ganesh idols for pooja . She invited us but we didn't attend. She only has 2 sons , both of whom are moneh. She thinks men with bigger turbans look "not so good" and once said . 

And that aunt's bhabhi is again another hindu-looking coconut who also wanted to install ganesh idol for pooja this year. She said she would invite us but I knew I wouldn't be going to such nonsense. I would rather be glad if they arranged a Sukhmani sahib paath and I would attend happily.

Whats striking in these scenarios is : the saabat soorat husbands have been totally neutered by their wives in relationships. How can a man sit still knowing his sons are moneh and he isn't passing sikhi genes further man. And on top of that, brahmanwaad is creeping right uptil the nose and no one else is bringing it, but the wife ! 

"Why do we have so much of maryadas. Eh ni karna.. oh ni karna.. " and then she went on to slander amritdharis about how we slander pandit's hypocrisies but we do the same .and then she was like "I like hindu weddings. I like how they throw flowers during fere. I am totally gonna do my 2 sons weddings same" .  

And then she said how she was doing gurbani paath in her school once (she's a teacher) and someone said looking at the gurbani with a dirty face "whats all this" . And I was tempted to reply "hindu anna anyways as per gurbani , but would you rather go on with ." Instead of bullsshit , she should have determined for a tougher sikh identity herself, but I tell you our people are so lost, I can't shake my head enough in distrust. I cant' believe these is how sikh ppl have come to be . What did dasam pita sacrifice for ? for such gande ande ... tch tch 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Sister , I will tell you something about some of these females with the qaum, but don't feel offended . I am not being sexist, but its a fact I have seen in some families how shameless sikh (or should I say hindu , because they look mostly hindu) women are pushing shamelessly brahminvaad within our sikh families. My finances aunt whose own husband is a saabat soorat sikh , atleast by appearance but she's brought ganesh idols for pooja . She invited us but we didn't attend. She only has 2 sons , both of whom are moneh. She thinks men with bigger turbans look "not so good" and once said . 

And that aunt's bhabhi is again another hindu-looking coconut who also wanted to install ganesh idol for pooja this year. She said she would invite us but I knew I wouldn't be going to such nonsense. I would rather be glad if they arranged a Sukhmani sahib paath and I would attend happily.

Whats striking in these scenarios is : the saabat soorat husbands have been totally neutered by their wives in relationships. How can a man sit still knowing his sons are moneh and he isn't passing sikhi genes further man. And on top of that, brahmanwaad is creeping right uptil the nose and no one else is bringing it, but the wife ! 

"Why do we have so much of maryadas. Eh ni karna.. oh ni karna.. " and then she went on to slander amritdharis about how we slander pandit's hypocrisies but we do the same .and then she was like "I like hindu weddings. I like how they throw flowers during fere. I am totally gonna do my 2 sons weddings same" .  

And then she said how she was doing gurbani paath in her school once (she's a teacher) and someone said looking at the gurbani with a dirty face "whats all this" . And I was tempted to reply "hindu anna anyways as per gurbani , but would you rather go on with ." Instead of bullsshit , she should have determined for a tougher sikh identity herself, but I tell you our people are so lost, I can't shake my head enough in distrust. I cant' believe these is how sikh ppl have come to be . What did dasam pita sacrifice for ? for such gande ande ... tch tch 

That;s why I've always maintained the stance that we should put 150% more effort in teaching our girls about sikhi , if a girl grows up in full faith and knowledge she wouldn't look to hindu/buddhist/christianity/islam/juadism for answers because she would know what a sikh woman has in terms of agency, status and spitiual guidance  above those faiths . We all need to make sure the 'equality' i.e. respect and support a sikh girl/woman should get  is not just a ideal but a reality , parents should love their kids equally and not be lazy in passing sikhi on , if they don't know much , take the kids to someone or show them YT channels that do teach and watch togethr and discuss , bug the gurdwarey to put parchaariks on , teach arth of the guruvak in English as well as Punjabi .
And this whole buraah culture needs to be consigned to the bin, it is at Bhangra gigs and concerts that apnian get groomed  both by Hindus and Muslims . The love jihad is from both camps , we are concentrating on musley but the hinduvta camp have openly said they will get the best most educated, most beautiful of sikh women over to their side i.e. hindu . The brainwashing is also in the Indian schooling system , our own true itihaas is diminished , our Guru Sahiban are just part of the Bhakti Lehar and just babey , so what if it is janamastmi why do our kids have to shout out hare Krishna Har Rama with their arms in the air ? If muslims did similar we would all be bristling how dare they ...but somehow our people are walking zombies to the dangers around them

 

[jkvlondon]

This video came onto my feed just as I was posting above , it really shows what I'm talking about:

http://fatehchannel.press/ਹਰ-ਸਿੱਖ-ਮਾਂ-ਤੱਕ-ਇਹ-ਵੀਡਿਓ-ਪਹ/

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

When our neighbors keep ganesh in their homes every year this time around, and we're invited,  the most we do  is pay a visit , pay our obeisance , have parshad / food and leave. Thats all thats required for the sake of "communal harmony" and "social bonding" . Nothing less, nothing more. But I hate how some sikhs go overboard here. We show our inclusiveness by taking some bananas with us as offering so that they can use it for parshad, 

The point being you're being a good neighbour , a non-fanatic , without violating your own faith. I think thats all its required .

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

When our neighbors keep ganesh in their homes every year this time around, and we're invited,  the most we do  is pay a visit , pay our obeisance , have parshad / food and leave. Thats all thats required for the sake of "communal harmony" and "social bonding" . Nothing less, nothing more. But I hate how some sikhs go overboard here. We show our inclusiveness by taking some bananas with us as offering so that they can use it for parshad, 

The point being you're being a good neighbour , a non-fanatic , without violating your own faith. I think thats all its required .

pay our obesiance ?? eat the prashad ?  what are you on about ... A sikh has no faith in those lesser gods and godesses, let alone the murtis of them , so why would you matha tek/pranam them and get tilak? you are saying disregard Guru ji's advice and in fear of the world act like a hypocrite? I can wish happy eid /christmas/ janamashtmi/vesakh without joining in the prayers and rituals...

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

pay our obesiance ?? eat the prashad ?  what are you on about ... A sikh has no faith in those lesser gods and godesses, let alone the murtis of them , so why would you matha tek/pranam them and get tilak? you are saying disregard Guru ji's advice and in fear of the world act like a hypocrite? I can wish happy eid /christmas/ janamashtmi/vesakh without joining in the prayers and rituals...

Sorry sister. You got me wrong here. I mean a pretence of it .  

Certainly I am totally against faith in any of these lesser gods and goddesses . Thats what this thread is about. 

[MrDoaba]

ੴ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗਣੇਸਾਯ ਨਸਹ ॥

 

 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

On 9/13/2018 at 10:39 PM, MrDoaba said:

ੴ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗਣੇਸਾਯ ਨਸਹ ॥

 

 

 

 

What are you trying to imply mr doaba ??

What baani is that ? 

That seems like some poor writing style lol . Look at the sentences . Doesn't seem like Dashmesh patshah ji's writing style.