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It's clear that Sikhi is very different from Islam. However, same cannot be argued for Hinduism. Sikhi shares a lot with it; reincarnation, concept of Guru-student, mukti etc. Given that Hinduism encompasses various differing traditions, Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma. It technically is and has been, until the British-funded Singh Sabha

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Guest Bhujang, the basis of any true dharam is basically same  all have a common ground to an extent , but, it is the ignorant blind people who distort the teachings to the level of the highest p

simple answer , sikhi offers everything the other two don't, without the discriminating garbage and the false human arbiters/intermediaries .

Hinduism is a culture of many different religions Difference with Sikhi - as JkvLondon said - there is no caste system and the reason why Sikhi was created is (as Bhai Gurdas Ji puts it) the worl

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You think they are same because you are trying to find sikhi in NIHANGS, and so called modern day "dont know what they're doing" Sikhs. You cant find sikhi there.....

Try reading Granth for yourself and you'll find evrything that PANDITs did was opposed by Gurus..... From AARTI to MUKTI..its not sikhi... 

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17 hours ago, Guest Bhujang said:

It's clear that Sikhi is very different from Islam. However, same cannot be argued for Hinduism. Sikhi shares a lot with it; reincarnation, concept of Guru-student, mukti etc. Given that Hinduism encompasses various differing traditions, Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma. It technically is and has been, until the British-funded Singh Sabha

we are the same

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On 10/27/2018 at 4:43 PM, Guest Bhujang said:

It's clear that Sikhi is very different from Islam. However, same cannot be argued for Hinduism. Sikhi shares a lot with it; reincarnation, concept of Guru-student, mukti etc. Given that Hinduism encompasses various differing traditions, Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma. It technically is and has been, until the British-funded Singh Sabha

Hinduism is a culture of many different religions

Difference with Sikhi - as JkvLondon said - there is no caste system and the reason why Sikhi was created is (as Bhai Gurdas Ji puts it) the world was crying out and Waheguru ji in his compassion (and sadness to see people suffer) sent Guru Nanak to this Earth to give us the full truth - not just a bit of truth found in every other religion.

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35 minutes ago, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

Hinduism is a culture of many different religions

Difference with Sikhi - as JkvLondon said - there is no caste system and the reason why Sikhi was created is (as Bhai Gurdas Ji puts it) the world was crying out and Waheguru ji in his compassion (and sadness to see people suffer) sent Guru Nanak to this Earth to give us the full truth - not just a bit of truth found in every other religion.

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hit the nail on the head. This is what Hinduism is. Its an umbrella term for different faiths with similarities that have been placed together.  I would not even be surprised if these small faiths want to break away from this Hinduism terms and be recognised as a separate faith. RSS will do its best to ensure this does not happen. 

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On 10/27/2018 at 4:43 PM, Guest Bhujang said:

Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma.

Just something interesting I think in Jahangir's mughal chronicles - sorry I definitely do not know what the book is called (correct me) -  he talks about how Guru Arjan Dev ji went through a Shaheedi and he called him a Hindu. Hindu is just Persian for South of the river Indus

This guy explains it better than me

 

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hit the nail on the head. This is what Hinduism is. Its an umbrella term for different faiths with similarities that have been placed together.  I would not even be surprised if these small faiths want to break away from this Hinduism terms and be recognised as a separate faith. RSS will do its best to ensure this does not happen. 

Lingayats want to break away from Hinduism and be recognized as a separate religion, but don't think the government is letting them.   

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On 10/27/2018 at 8:43 AM, Guest Bhujang said:

It's clear that Sikhi is very different from Islam. However, same cannot be argued for Hinduism. Sikhi shares a lot with it; reincarnation, concept of Guru-student, mukti etc. Given that Hinduism encompasses various differing traditions, Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma. It technically is and has been, until the British-funded Singh Sabha

Right, the British who beat up and allowed the killing of Sikhs marching under the auspices of the SGPC?

If the British were so in love with the Singh Sabha, why didn't it just hand the keys of Nanakana Sahib and other gurdwaras over to them?

That's really strange ... a conspiracy hatched by the British to removed Hindu (mahant) control of the Gurdwaras and give them to their stooges. Except that that's not what happened, until their hand was forced.

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On 10/27/2018 at 8:43 AM, Guest Bhujang said:

It's clear that Sikhi is very different from Islam. However, same cannot be argued for Hinduism. Sikhi shares a lot with it; reincarnation, concept of Guru-student, mukti etc. Given that Hinduism encompasses various differing traditions, Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma. It technically is and has been, until the British-funded Singh Sabha

Yeah, it's just some random fellow named "Nanak" that said we're neither Hindus or Muslims, that Hindus are blind, and that they are wrong from the start.

Thank God that "Guru Guest Bhujang ji" came along to set us straight.

Dhanvaad.

 

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Naa Ham Hindhoo N Musalamaan ||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਭੈਰਉ (ਮਃ ੫) (੩) ੪:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੧੩੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
Raag Bhaira-o Guru Arjan Dev

https://www.searchgurbani.com/guru-granth-sahib/shabad/4205/line/10

 

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਅੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਤੁਰਕੂ ਕਾਣਾ ॥

Hindhoo Annhaa Thurakoo Kaanaa ||

The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye.

ਗੋਂਡ (ਭ. ਨਾਮਦੇਵ) (੭) ੪:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੮੭੫ ਪੰ. ੨ 
Raag Bilaaval Gond Bhagat Namdev

https://www.searchgurbani.com/guru-granth-sahib/ang/875

 

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਮੂਲੇ ਭੂਲੇ ਅਖੁਟੀ ਜਾਂਹੀ ॥

Hindhoo Moolae Bhoolae Akhuttee Jaanhee ||

The Hindus have erred from the start; they are going the wrong way.

ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੪) (੨੦) ਸ. (੧) ੨:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੬ ਪੰ. ੯ 
Raag Bihaagrhaa Guru Nanak Dev

 

 

 

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I think the "Guest Bhujang" is a <banned word filter activated>, because they criticize and Sikhi by saying Guru's copied the ideas of reincarnation from The Laws of Manu 12, 54-69 and Garuda Purana 5:

"The murderer of a brahmin becomes consumptive, the killer of a cow becomes hump-backed and imbecile, the murderer of a virgin becomes leprous – all three born as outcastes. The slayer of a woman and the destroyer of embryos becomes a savage full of diseases; who commits illicit intercourse, a eunuch; who goes with his teacher’s wife, disease-skinned. The eater of flesh becomes very red; the drinker of intoxicants, one with discoloured teeth… ..Who steals food becomes a rat; who steals grain becomes a locust… perfumes, a muskrat; honey, a gadfly; flesh, a vulture; and salt, an ant…. Who commits unnatural vice becomes a village pig; who consorts with a Sudra woman becomes a bull; who is passionate becomes a lustful horse…. These and other signs and births are seen to be the karma of the embodied, made by themselves in this world. Thus the makers of bad karma, having experienced the tortures of hell, are reborn with the residues of their sins, in these stated forms. 

And inserted into: (Bhagat Trilochan, Raag Gujri, p.526 SGGS)
"At the very last moment, one who thinks of wealth, and dies in such thoughts, shall be reincarnated over and over again, in the form of serpents.
O sister, do not forget the Name of the Lord of the Universe.
At the very last moment, he who thinks of women, and dies in such thoughts, shall be reincarnated over and over again as a prostitute.
At the very last moment, one who thinks of his children, and dies in such thoughts, shall be reincarnated over and over again as a pig.
At the very last moment, one who thinks of mansions, and dies in such thoughts, shall be reincarnated over and over again as a goblin.
At the very last moment, one who thinks of the Lord, and dies in such thoughts, says Trilochan, that man shall be liberated; the Lord shall abide in his heart."

They also attack the ceremony of Sukhasan because they think it was copied from Hindu Pranapratishta rituals which was meant for Idols and murtis! 

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On 10/27/2018 at 4:43 PM, Guest Bhujang said:

It's clear that Sikhi is very different from Islam. However, same cannot be argued for Hinduism. Sikhi shares a lot with it; reincarnation, concept of Guru-student, mukti etc. Given that Hinduism encompasses various differing traditions, Sikhi can be accepted as a tradition within the wider Hindu dharma. It technically is and has been, until the British-funded Singh Sabha

if you believe in Guru Nanak and not any other religion, then that makes you a sikh.  It means you only look to him for your salvation (i.e. you follow only his instructions).  

The teachings of SGGS, however, are universal as they get to the essence of religion.  So a Hindu or Muslim can still learn from SGGS because the universal aspects apply to their religions too.

If Hindus want to say Sikhism is a form of Hinduism, then that is their business and  we should not be offended by that.  Nor is Sikhism some sort of 'anti Hindu' movement.  Not everything brahmins do or say is bad.

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