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Forgotten stories of the bravery of the 1.5m Indian soldiers who fought alongside the British in WWI and the racism they faced in the trenche

By dallysingh101,  2 hours ago in POLITICS | MEDIA | 

  • Around 1.5 million men, mainly from remote north Indian villages fought with the British from 1914 to 1918
  • Fighting under the command of their colonial masters they faced racism, brutality and prejudice in the war
  • The truth about their service  is revealed in veteran interview transcripts offered to the British Library

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6325571/Forgotten-stories-bravery-1-5m-Indian-soldiers.html

 

Hey Dal, do you seriously think the Sikh quom is in denial, therefore very reluctant to learn lessons from the past or even pass them to their future generations?  Do they seriously have any desire to pass on any information, in terms of their Sikh heritage or Sikh culture or history to their children or grandchildren? I doubt it very much!  They fail to perceive how our past can teach us some really very important lessons, lessons, which are not taught at high schools or universities! Shocking!

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there is something that has never made sense in my mind..

Sikhs always say 'never forget 1984..' and of course we shouldnt - just like we don't forget what muslims have done to us either..but why do so many Panjabis never remember colonial invasion and rule? why do they stay as quiet as a mouse about the chitteh who caused as much harm psychologically that we still suffer from it today? why dont these people ever bring it up?

it's like they all think 'theyve given us a better life, lets make the most of it, there's no point or sense in remembering what they did to us, we should be grateful etc.' but why cant they see how the chitteh have won by slowly detaching them from the identity they like to claim? 

the western diaspora (inc. many amritdharia) are starting to have more in common with the west in terms of faith, culture, language, clothing, faith, music etc than they do back home..it's like a cancer that's spreading and showing no signs of slowing down..very worrying.

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3 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

there is something that has never made sense in my mind..

Sikhs always say 'never forget 1984..' and of course we shouldnt - just like we don't forget what muslims have done to us either..but why do so many Panjabis never remember colonial invasion and rule? why do they stay as quiet as a mouse about the chitteh who caused as much harm psychologically that we still suffer from it today? why dont these people ever bring it up?

it's like they all think 'theyve given us a better life, lets make the most of it, there's no point or sense in remembering what they did to us, we should be grateful etc.' but why cant they see how the chitteh have won by slowly detaching them from the identity they like to claim? 

the western diaspora (inc. many amritdharia) are starting to have more in common with the west in terms of faith, culture, language, clothing, faith, music etc than they do back home..it's like a cancer that's spreading and showing no signs of slowing down..very worrying.

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18 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

there is something that has never made sense in my mind..

Sikhs always say 'never forget 1984..' and of course we shouldnt - just like we don't forget what muslims have done to us either..but why do so many Panjabis never remember colonial invasion and rule? why do they stay as quiet as a mouse about the chitteh who caused as much harm psychologically that we still suffer from it today? why dont these people ever bring it up?

Great post Singh.

Secondly wanted to say very sorry to read about what happened with your Nanaji in the States.

I say that as a person who is alive today thanks to the kindness of African American and Afro-Caribbean brethren to me.

But yes you are completely correct that the British Genocide of Sikhs is hardly ever mentioned by most Sikhs nowadays.

The Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs is hardly mentioned by Sikhs either despite 20% of the Sikh population being killed there.

Obviously the minority that is historically aware does recognise the Vada Ghallughara in which Muslims killed 90% of Sikhs.

However, after 1977 (a mere 30years after 1947) to all intents and purposes the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs was forgotten.

Similarly, a great many people forgot the devastation and almost 100year Genocide inflicted by the East India Company and British Empire upon Sikhs and subsequently enlisted with them for purely financial gain similar to nominal Sikhs enlisting with Punjab Police between 1985-1995. Obviously greater numbers of Muslim Punjabi's and Hindu's generally fought for the British (with Sikhs only being a small minority of their forces) but that there are thousands of pounds wasted by UK Sikhs on statues (that ought to have been 100% funded by the Government) whilst Sikh children in Punjab go hungry, go uneducated and die for lack of health treatment is an utter disgrace. Even the original Nihangs of Akali Phula Singh Ji's time were neutered by the British after 1849 into a degenerate bunch of drug takers that fought on behalf of the Hindu Mahants during the Gurdwara Reform Movement, for the 1897 Sodhak Committee and working against the Panth on behalf of Indira Gandhi in 1984. 

The number of Sikhs killed in the British Genocide of Sikhs actually exceeds anything Congress and Indira Gandhi inflicted.

As for 1984 it's crystal clear that the majority do not remember it today. If the British Genocide of Sikhs and the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs which inflicted far far worse casualties (particularly as a higher percentage of the smaller Sikh population back in those times) were so easily and quickly forgotten then it's hardly any surprise. But that Panj Piare in every pind along with their allies are not launching a dharam yudh against female infanticide, the drugs menace, illiteracy, poverty, cancer, environmental disaster, matrimonial apartheid and failing to unite every pind under a single united Gurdwara is the worst aspect of 1984 being forgotten about.

Meaningless slogans year after year in the Diaspora which achieve nothing and take our eyes off the mainly self-inflicted silent Genocide that we are a party to are becoming part of the problem. The Pakistani's have received tens of billions of development aid from the British Government since 1984. Yet Sikhs in the UK have not made any concrete efforts to demand that an equal number of billions be invested by the UK into helping poor Sikhs in Punjab and across India as part of a long awaited yet to be received apology for the UK Government's collusion with Indira Gandhi and Congress in the 1980's with Sikh taxpayers money.

White people who are not racist are not our enemy. We need to enlist more and more of them like GurjantGnostic as allies.

Similarly ordinary Hindu's who can be tomorrow's sehajdhari and potential Amritdhari Sikhs are not part of the problem.

We need to incorporate these so-called falsely classified Hindu's (defined as so by RSS) as new members of the Sikh Panth.

But before that, if we can't get our own house in order ourselves (ie one Gurdwara per pind only for starters) then continued Sikh apathy towards the Congress Genocide of Sikhs, the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs and the British Genocide of Sikhs as well as earlier (and far more devastating in percentage terms) Holocausts inflicted upon the Sikh Qaum by Muslims are par for the course.

Seriously what kind of "Sikh" enjoys holidays to Pakistan or Arabia (and flies on Muslim airlines) given what they think of Sikhs!?

What kind of community tolerates female infanticide and matrimonial apartheid given what happened to our Qaum in 1984!?

The answer is a community that is heading towards minority status in east Punjab in a few years unless we start to do something about it very fast by welcoming as much new blood into Sikh Panth as possible regardless of whether that new blood is Hindu Punjabi, Bihari, Tamil, white, black or even from the same background as Bhai Mardana Ji's parents.

We must grow the numbers of the Sikh Panth and educate our younger generations or else (perish)!  

 

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