Why didn't Guru make everyone Sikh?

[mahandulai]

Guru was God himself right?

[RajKaregaKhalsa1]

Guru is a doctor and doesn't care what religion we are but if we are following Waheguru with a pure heart

People may not want to leave their religion so you shouldn't force them and every Saint follows the path of the saints where you take away your ego and embrace humility and it shows that Guru is accepting to take shelter to anyone

 

[scali]

It’s called free will. Even born into a Sikh family doesn’t make you a Sikh you have to do take Amrit. Gurus were here not to tell us how special they were but how special we all are. True masters create masters not followers. 

[jakare]

Guru Ji also wanted people to follow their own religion correctly. (Hence why in Gurbani it states for Muslims to be a good Muslim, Hindus be a good Hindu, etc etc).

[genie]

5 hours ago, mahandulai said:

Guru was God himself right?

Everyone is born Sikh (disciple / learner) It's only the evil and corruption and maya (illusion) of this world that makes them forget they was born a Sikh. Sikhi is common sense. You even get Sikhs born into so called Sikh families who are not Sikhs because they dont follow Sikhi they follow hedonistic atheism or hindu punjabi ancestral rituals and superstitions (women fasting on particular dates, women tying rakhi on their bros hands for protection, black magic, believing in horoscopes made by hindu brahmin pundits, etc).

And no Guru wasn't God, however some gurbani literalist Sikhs might not agree with me on this however Guru's themselves did now allow people to call them God and Guru Gobind Singh Ji damned anyone who refereed to them as the almighty to be doomed to go to hell.

Guru's were messengers of God, and according to Sikhi everyone has a bit of God inside them (the soul). That soul will eventually merge back into the supreme soul (God) called mukthi but only once your blessed by following what the guru's have taught.

As for why Guru's didn't make everyone Sikh? Well answer is Guru's were more concerned about spirituality and your good deeds (according to gurbani) than what religion you was born into and as stated above they were not God to command everyone become Sikh. Therefore during Guru Ji's life times you had followers of different religions learning and being learners (disciples / Sikhs) of the spiritual teacher ( Guru's).

Only after the shahadat (martyrdom) of guru arjan dev ji and extreme persecution did Sikhs started to become more organised as a distinct separate Sikh community and started to spread more underground. You could no longer be hindu and follow Guru's Sikhi or muslim and follow Sikhi you had to pick a side cos the ruling islamic mughul authorities were determined to wipe out Sikhs and Sikhi. So God obviously wanted Sikhs and Sikhi to survive and spread and thus helped Sikhs defend, fight and expand Sikhi and eventually have Sikh rule across vast area's of land in northern india.

When Sikh's stopped spreading Sikhi and started to more concerned about living an easy life not thinking of the afterlife or laying down solid foundations for future generations of Sikhs because of the large political power they had captured then God punished Sikhs by taking away their powerful but short lived empire and putting them under oppression ever since. Once Sikhs learn as a community to get back to their roots, learn sikhi and spread it to ignorant Sikhs (punjabi sikhs living as atheists) and non-believers then we will see things improve.

 

[jkvlondon]

On 11/3/2018 at 4:04 PM, jakare said:

Guru Ji also wanted people to follow their own religion correctly. (Hence why in Gurbani it states for Muslims to be a good Muslim, Hindus be a good Hindu, etc etc).

he wanted people  to follow the true path of sikhi , which is to pray to Akal Purakh alone not intermediary gods goddesses or taking any human's name so in that context Ram is Rameiya not Dasarath's son  and Allah is the literal highest of high ...without invoking any mention of Mohammed.  Free will means that each individual has to choose to fully dedicate themselves to the path not dabble.

[jakare]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

he wanted people  to follow the true path of sikhi , which is to pray to Akal Purakh alone not intermediary gods goddesses or taking any human's name so in that context Ram is Rameiya not Dasarath's son  and Allah is the literal highest of high ...without invoking any mention of Mohammed.  Free will means that each individual has to choose to fully dedicate themselves to the path not dabble.

k

[carinder]

Gur Satgur ka jo sikh akhai so bhalke uth har Naam dhiawai. 
Udam kare bhalke parbhati ishnan kare Amritsar nawai. 
Updesh Guru har har japjapai sabh kilwikh pap dokh leh jawai. 
Phir chare diwas Gurbani gawai behndian uthdian har Naam dhiawai. 
Jo sas giras dhiae mera har har so gursikh guru man bhawai. 
Jisno dyal howai mera soami tis gursikh Guru updesh sunhawai. 
Jan Nanak dhoor mangaitis gursikh ki jo aap japai awreh Naam japawi.

[Big_Tera]

On 11/3/2018 at 1:31 PM, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

Guru is a doctor and doesn't care what religion we are but if we are following Waheguru with a pure heart

People may not want to leave their religion so you shouldn't force them and every Saint follows the path of the saints where you take away your ego and embrace humility and it shows that Guru is accepting to take shelter to anyone

 

Gurus believe Sikhi is the best religion. If not why create Sikhi?  

Why not just follow Islam or Hinduism instead?

The main difference though is Sikhs belive no one is inferior if they are not Sikh. We are not taught to proselytize. 

Not to discriminate, but to live peacefully side by side other faiths. 

But we definantly belive Sikhi is the best choice. Be it not in a boastful way. 

Our main belief is that everyone prays to the same God. We even disagree with alot of other faiths beliefs. 

Such as fasting and eating meat idol worship.

However we are taught to be the bigger man and not fight about these things. 

At the end of day. Live and let live. The bigger picture is they believe in God. So should be respected even though they go against our own faiths teachings and beliefs. 

But yes I do agree on the whole that God will be more concerned about our actions and deeds on earth the what faith we are. 

Its like committing loads of sins wearing a red outfit of clothing. 

Will God be more concerned about the colour of our clothing then the actions/sins that were committed?

 

 

 

 

[dallysingh101]

34 minutes ago, Big_Tera said:

We are not taught to proselytize.

That's not true. This thinking is a latter day, pretty modern 'innovation'. 

Sikh history is full of examples of strong parchaar going on.