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[Jaggaa]

2 hours ago, mahandulai said:

lol exactly. bs feminism

not quite sure what it is, feminism or something else but it certainly isn't a value of Sikhi where a person requires EXTRA encouragement on the way they choose to appear. It must mean that the said person is not confident in themselves to start off with. A Sikh does not seek external validation, that's in direct contrast to the point some of the posters here are making. On one side they are saying "don't seek validation, dont go on instagram and all this and that" and on the other they want those wearing dastaars to be validated by others?

[puzzled]

17 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

one is basic hygiene and grooming the norm that is running now is narsacisstic preening  for instagram /fb whatever

like this guy?  lol    

[jkvlondon]

54 minutes ago, puzzled said:

like this guy?  lol    

 

exactly ...made his whole world his own visage and was cursed for it and became one of these:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/narcissus-papyraceus-high-res-stock-photography/135597761

as captured by Dali :

https://www.kingandmcgaw.com/prints/salvador-dali/metamorphosis-of-narcissus-5671?gclid=CjwKCAiAlb_fBRBHEiwAzMeEdmljdpygeW-R9xFOKzDtOW-f0CuewbeaRyAaI4GpSIhImfN4GaU7_RoCVQoQAvD_BwE#5671::media:0

[puzzled]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

exactly ...made his whole world his own visage and was cursed for it and became one of these:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/narcissus-papyraceus-high-res-stock-photography/135597761

as captured by Dali :

https://www.kingandmcgaw.com/prints/salvador-dali/metamorphosis-of-narcissus-5671?gclid=CjwKCAiAlb_fBRBHEiwAzMeEdmljdpygeW-R9xFOKzDtOW-f0CuewbeaRyAaI4GpSIhImfN4GaU7_RoCVQoQAvD_BwE#5671::media:0

yes. I really like Dalis work, they look like dreams and nightmares, so surreal, but they seem to be a little disturbing beneath the surface lol      then again most artists are far from "normal" . Creative people tend to be emotional and different.

[puzzled]

i like how he is so self obsessed that he is paying absolutely no attention to the young lady with her robes slipping off     it takes a very self obsessed man to do that lol 

 

[GuestKaur2]

On 11/17/2018 at 6:12 PM, Jaggaa said:

not quite sure what it is, feminism or something else but it certainly isn't a value of Sikhi where a person requires EXTRA encouragement on the way they choose to appear. It must mean that the said person is not confident in themselves to start off with. A Sikh does not seek external validation, that's in direct contrast to the point some of the posters here are making. On one side they are saying "don't seek validation, dont go on instagram and all this and that" and on the other they want those wearing dastaars to be validated by others?

It's a great deed in itself to have the Gurus Roop but sadly most women decide not to. We should encourage men and women alike don't get me wrong, but girls tend to feel more insecure about the way they look in the first place.

 

On 11/17/2018 at 3:16 PM, mahandulai said:

lol exactly. bs feminism

Chup kar. 

[mahandulai]

17 hours ago, GuestKaur2 said:

It's a great deed in itself to have the Gurus Roop but sadly most women decide not to. We should encourage men and women alike don't get me wrong, but girls tend to feel more insecure about the way they look in the first place.

 

Chup kar. 

girls tend to be more insecure.

couldn't be more WRONG.

[jkvlondon]

On ‎11‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 7:12 PM, Jaggaa said:

not quite sure what it is, feminism or something else but it certainly isn't a value of Sikhi where a person requires EXTRA encouragement on the way they choose to appear. It must mean that the said person is not confident in themselves to start off with. A Sikh does not seek external validation, that's in direct contrast to the point some of the posters here are making. On one side they are saying "don't seek validation, dont go on instagram and all this and that" and on the other they want those wearing dastaars to be validated by others?

have you never heard sakhian when Guru ji gave sabash to his children(Sikhs) for Jobs well done including following sikhi in spirit ? Stop with the downplaying of the role of support of good things , kids need confidence they are doing well in the face of the constant tearing down of the world … this tides them over until they realise their internal strength  and can deflect the nonsense of others . We encourage kids even adults (who are spiritually at children level) when they do good so they repeat that behaviour and move on further .

[Jaggaa]

8 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

have you never heard sakhian when Guru ji gave sabash to his children(Sikhs) for Jobs well done including following sikhi in spirit ? Stop with the downplaying of the role of support of good things , kids need confidence they are doing well in the face of the constant tearing down of the world … this tides them over until they realise their internal strength  and can deflect the nonsense of others . We encourage kids even adults (who are spiritually at children level) when they do good so they repeat that behaviour and move on further .

The dastaar isn't a toy, it isn't a fashion accessory, not a hobby but an indication of duty and responsibility. If you're spiritually at a child level should you really be adorning yourself with what represents such responsibility? I never said KIDS don't need confidence but this is a completely different topic. Encourage your kids in whatever they do and whatever you want them to do Please continue but I'm done with this topic, it's been derailed so hard.

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, Jaggaa said:

The dastaar isn't a toy, it isn't a fashion accessory but an indication of duty and responsibility. If you're spiritually at a child level should you really be adorning yourself with what represents such responsibility? I never said KIDS don't need confidence but this is a completely different topic. Encourage your kids in whatever they do and whatever you want them to do Please continue but I'm done with this topic, it's been derailed so hard.

if you do not expect someone to live up to an set of character traits they never will. We don't get suput by leaving them to their own devices but guide them as Guru Sahiban told us in Anand Sahib , by giving them an ideal, the examples of mahan gursikhs of the past, the knowledge of the language, the ethics etc 

Guru Pita ji wants us to progress and he has given model of encouragement , support via each other