Can a Non-Keshadhari Sikh be the representative/Spokesperson of our Sikh religion (also social religious issues)?

[mahandulai]

On 11/10/2018 at 9:57 AM, namespace said:

I do not believe so.  Maybe this person chooses to trim the beard or bodily hair?  Yes perhaps.  If they keep it short as most people around the world do then no!  Kesh is what our Guru told us to keep, plain and simple.  If you do not have 5 ks then you shouldn't represent the Guru.

...I also think that if you do not dress in all dark blue/yellow and do not carry a full length kirpan, and kara on both arms then you shouldn't be a spokesperson either.

this last part about in al blue is a joke, right?

[jkvlondon]

7 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

as long as they're considered hotter than the turbans , ppl gonna mimic them and girls gonna drool over em

how about keeping you personal proclivities out of this , I'm talking about lack of sikh knowledge in those individuals coupled with outer look means that paedo musley can pass themselves off easily as sikh which has created a dangerous situation where our girls are being picked off by nonsikh pretenders.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

how about keeping you personal proclivities out of this , I'm talking about lack of sikh knowledge in those individuals coupled with outer look means that paedo musley can pass themselves off easily as sikh which has created a dangerous situation where our girls are being picked off by nonsikh pretenders.

its not my personal proclivities dear. 

The turban didnt get promoted enough in the fashion industry and as a result , we see haircut = cool , turban = boring. 

Ofcourse I don't even have to mention abt how sikh females outside india dare say "no turban no beard" in matrimonial services run by GURDWARE !  

 

[Big_Tera]

On 11/10/2018 at 7:11 AM, ADMIN said:

Can a Non-Keshadhari Sikh be the representative of our Sikh religion (including in our social religious issues)?

Well lets look at the state if things as it is. All the sikh institutions and organisations are run by pagh wale. 

Yet these guys with their paghs and dharis are not doing a good job. 

We really need to get over this concept that pagh and dhari equals a good person that is intellegent. 

Maybe let some intellegent moneh run some things. 

Pagh and dhari does not mean anything compared to what is inside. 

[Singh559]

25 minutes ago, Big_Tera said:

Well lets look at the state if things as it is. All the sikh institutions and organisations are run by pagh wale. 

Yet these guys with their paghs and dharis are not doing a good job. 

We really need to get over this concept that pagh and dhari equals a good person that is intellegent. 

Maybe let some intellegent moneh run some things. 

Pagh and dhari does not mean anything compared to what is inside. 

So instead of getting competent people in Sikh Saroop, get people not in Sikh Saroop who don't follow the Hukam of Maharaj to run things? LOOL

What makes you think the corrupt pagh wale will allow moneh to do something if the corrupt pagh wale won't let the competent pagh wale do something?

 

[Akalifauj]

Buddha dal should have a non keshadhari Jathedar.  

Make another topic for this.  And have a area where a person can pick if they are Nihang or not and what their voted for.  I bet you the thought has already driven the online nihangs crazy because they like talking big but never back it up.

[Akalifauj]

There is a requirement for leading the Khalsa Panth and that includes having hair uncut.

[jkvlondon]

12 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

There is a requirement for leading the Khalsa Panth and that includes having hair uncut.

exactly the last time we had non keshadhari/sehajdhari (in true sense) in full charge of the khalsa fauj , the sikh kingdom fell . The Khalsa is akal purakh ki fauj and as such need to lead by following Guru ji's hukham and rehit, can't have just anybody in charge of them .

[S1ngh]

Very interesting to see the result.

I don't blame non-keshdhari folks but the leaders of our community for the devastating figures of population of monay folks in our community.

Not even one area anywhere in this world one did the preacher so good that folks in our kaum stood firm with their gurus hukam. 

Even British made one rule in Indian army that they will not hire any non-kheshadhari Sikhs. Their reasoning was that if one person is not loyal to their religion then how the hell they can be loyal to the crown.

[S1ngh]

On 11/11/2018 at 11:55 AM, Big_Tera said:

Well lets look at the state if things as it is. All the sikh institutions and organisations are run by pagh wale. 

Yet these guys with their paghs and dharis are not doing a good job. 

We really need to get over this concept that pagh and dhari equals a good person that is intellegent. 

Maybe let some intellegent moneh run some things. 

Pagh and dhari does not mean anything compared to what is inside. 

If monay run gurdwara or camps then wouldn’t it give the idea to the small numbers of Sikh who are in sikhi saroop to get the thinking, “hey, jora/turban is not important”. Yeh?