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Can a Sikh marry non-sikh in front of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji?

Can a Sikh marry Non-Sikh?  

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I feel that Amritdhari's can marry non-amritdhari's but in essence if a Sikh (amritdhari or not) has an Anand Karaj with a Non-Sikh doesn't that Non-Sikh then become a Sikh since they will take on the Singh/Kaur last name?

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Yes, but only if they are both sikh can they marry in ceremony associated with the gurdwara/in front (or literally around) of the Guru.

22 minutes ago, jakare said:

I feel that Amritdhari's can marry non-amritdhari's but in essence if a Sikh (amritdhari or not) has an Anand Karaj with a Non-Sikh doesn't that Non-Sikh then become a Sikh since they will take on the Singh/Kaur last name?

I personally believe the husband or wife can only take a amrit name is they go through amirit, not through marriage.  Remember what happens there.  These questions and that experience is different than the wedding.  

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Anand Karaj is a Khalsa Panth approved religious ceremony for Sikhs who have total belief in Guru Granth Sahib as the only temporal and spiritual Guide. The Sikh Reht Maryada direction is clear -

Persons professing faiths other than the Sikh faith cannot be joined in wedlock by Anand Karaj ceremony."
[The Sikh Reht Maryada Article XVIII item (k)]

If you don't believe in the teachings and follow another faith then what is the point in getting married according to another?

For further information -

https://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org/sms/smsarticles/advisorypanel/gurmukhsinghsewauk/mixedmarriagesinsikhism.html

 

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Listen, 2,600 years ago the the prophet of the mazda made up some stuff where you can only marry other zoroastrians.  Look what it got them.  A whole civilization and half of the arabian peninsula down to 150k people.  You can interfaith marry in christianity, islam, and hindi, do you see how many members of them live? They grow.

I also think if you interfaith marry you might be bringing in someone much more interested in the faith (not neccesarily God) than you.  The other thing is sikhi is bleeding at the neck because of females apostatizing in droves.  The panth needs families to come from somewhere. 

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2 hours ago, namespace said:

Listen, 2,600 years ago the the prophet of the mazda made up some stuff where you can only marry other zoroastrians.  Look what it got them.  A whole civilization and half of the arabian peninsula down to 150k people.  You can interfaith marry in christianity, islam, and hindi, do you see how many members of them live? They grow.

I also think if you interfaith marry you might be bringing in someone much more interested in the faith (not neccesarily God) than you.  The other thing is sikhi is bleeding at the neck because of females apostatizing in droves.  The panth needs families to come from somewhere. 

anyone marries to a muslim their kids never add to sikhi they become musley , anyone marries to a hindu their kids tend to remain confused and remain milgoba of the two faiths not really secure in true sikhi, and full of veham bharam because of superstitious stuff if not outright atheist.  Any one marrying a christian will struggle for a while but if they give sikhi knowledge will no bitterness towards christians , the official line of people not christian going to hellfire will automatically push their kids' open, compassionate natures to select sikhi above other faiths.

Fact is Guru Sahiban have left things at this point : anand karaj which is the only valis marriage ceremony at the time for a sikh were between sikhs of the guru , For those who argue Khalsa marrying out in the past , the bibi had to follow the Guru too  else as Guru ji explained in the sakhi of the soldier who was converted until you have conjugal rights you remain khalsa , else you become one with the mat of the female , so that's why muslim women are sakat manna as well as other non sikh women. Just look at those singhs of the misl period who followed their own mat rather than gurmat . None of their households survived intact.

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In my eyes, if it's ok for Sikh n Non Sikh around SGGS t marry, it is also ok for same sex to marry around SGGS. Hence I vote NO! You may not think it but this is exactly how the world loves to operate "If this is ok that is also ok..." Attitude.

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What about atheist sikhs? Like sikhs who are atheist but still go gurdwara, do fireworks on Diwali, take part in nagar kirtan, eat samosas  etc are they allowed ? Because they will feel excluded

And what about sikhs who want interfaith fusion weddings? So anand karaj as well as the religious ceremony of their partner. Sikhs who have interfaith relationships like to keep it neutral and prefer to raise their kids with little flashes of both faiths. A bit like gender neutral but the religion version ...

Non religious, cultural sikhs are actually causing a lot of confusion. Makes my brain hurt. Perhaps we should try to work around it or something 

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If I were to marry a non sikh, there are chances, then I would not have anand karaj because that just wouldnt make any sense, but would just have a registry marriage anyway. I'm not really into Punjabi girls tbh, but then I want my kids to be sikhs, marrying a non sikh will result in confused coconut kids, so I will just have to marry a Punjabi. 

Most Sikh brides look like Christmas trees 

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If both parties want to be married as per sikh tradition, will both parties also have funerals as per sikh tradition? Why does 'marriage' always bring out this topic? 

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2 hours ago, imhosingh said:

If both parties want to be married as per sikh tradition, will both parties also have funerals as per sikh tradition? Why does 'marriage' always bring out this topic? 

frankly those who insist to do it for the photos  won't necessarily be insistent about their antim sanskars because they won't see it .

 

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I used to know a girl at school who told me when she gets married she wants to wear a lengha which a short top so that her belly shows, she said it looks sexy. Should someone whose intention is to look sexy on her anand karaj really be having anand karaj?

Lets be honest here no one actually cares about anand karaj lol, it all about the photos, reception party, food, outfits, colours, when bride enters and walks down towards guru ji that's her big moment, all focus is on her and her tacky jewellery and outfit. Brides in general are the centre attraction of most Indians weddings. 

 I remember when my cousin was getting married he was nagging my mum to give the granthi money so that the granthi would cut the anand karaj down and end it fast so they can start the reception. 

Once I was watching sikh channel and bhai Mohan singh, the one who catches paki pedos, said he once was at a anand karaj and the bride was demanding the granthis to move guru Nanak jis portrait because it was ruining the photo shoot. 

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2 hours ago, puzzled said:

I used to know a girl at school who told me when she gets married she wants to wear a lengha which a short top so that her belly shows, she said it looks sexy. Should someone whose intention is to look sexy on her anand karaj really be having anand karaj?

Lets be honest here no one actually cares about anand karaj lol, it all about the photos, reception party, food, outfits, colours, when bride enters and walks down towards guru ji that's her big moment, all focus is on her and her tacky jewellery and outfit. Brides in general are the centre attraction of most Indians weddings. 

 I remember when my cousin was getting married he was nagging my mum to give the granthi money so that the granthi would cut the anand karaj down and end it fast so they can start the reception. 

Once I was watching sikh channel and bhai Mohan singh, the one who catches paki pedos, said he once was at a anand karaj and the bride was demanding the granthis to move guru Nanak jis portrait because it was ruining the photo shoot. 

problem is , people in general do not understand anything about sikh way of life either in terms of ethics, practicalities , rites of passage or even values to keep in mind looking for life partners , to have in family life  let alone paat .There has to be more education about what the sikh=gurmat attitude is on these issues .

If the parents have zip knowledge , the kids will be even more disadvantaged in the battle against the negative influences of this world. i.e. the parents have failed in their duties , so what if rinky pinky and tinky have the latest phones, fashions and cars if they have zero self-respect and act trashy  or bittu hunny and sunny have flash cars, big watches and flash clothes to impress the girls but have zero knowledge of what their roots and true culture is .

marriage is not for one day its for life and that is what these deluded peeps can't see

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16 hours ago, imhosingh said:

If both parties want to be married as per sikh tradition, will both parties also have funerals as per sikh tradition? Why does 'marriage' always bring out this topic? 

why does funeral even matters ? what is the difference if your body is burned or buried... when your Soul gets judged immediately...

 

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