Inter-Racial Marriage Between Sikh and Christian

[dallysingh101]

7 hours ago, Guest guest said:

theres a hidden wisdom in traditions that 'liberal thinkers' and 'people who believe in equality' seem to not register.   maybe because they think people were just dumb for thousands of years whereas todays people are more 'enlightened'.  sorry, but no:

https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_0tynytdu

alcohol increases sexual desire in women:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/alcohol-can-boost-womens-sex-drive-1425970.html

whereas as in men it actually kills libido, acting more like a sedative.

hence why traditionally, women don't drink at public events in indian culture.

stop pretending men and women are the same.  they are not.  they are biologically and physiologically different.

I'm not saying they are. I don't believe that they are myself. My point is that the open hypocrisy is something that you can just wash away with science. Females won't buy that in this day and age. 

[dallysingh101]

9 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

thats a fair point...

but my post was also about the extremely strong western influences i.e. dating, feminism and even pornography, on apnia which is making their already feral nature even more worse from my pov...

at least in those days, there was less if any worry about diluting the gene pool since our ancestory already contained hindu/muslim blood and our surroundings were made up of same folk whereas now its gonna be diluted and weakened with others from over the world and thats only gonna result in a loss of identity by appearance, a loss of culture by mixed-heritage and a loss of faith by mixed-beliefs.

Well other religious communities have weathered this storm and are made up of a very ethnically diverse range of people. Are you saying that we can't handle this? What you are really talking about is our ability to assimilate people within our community - it could much better than it is right now in my opinion. 

And as for appearance. I don't get that argument. Having a wider gene pool can have positives as well as negatives. Again it's going to be our ability (or otherwise) to impart the values and moorings of our faith that clinches the matter. If we've already confused many of our own existing lot by talking dharam one minute, and then having the wildest, ostentatious drink fuelled bhangra raves at celebratory functions (weddings/birthdays etc.) the next, and throw in banging on about caste and whatnot - I'd say we've already done a grand job of confusing matters with a hotchpotch of conflicting ideas. 

What I think you might be getting at is that yes, as a community, we are quite close to our base instincts and that explains a lot. But it is consistently building up a sophisticated, intelligent culture (as opposed to some of the stuff we get up to) that is the greatest weapon against our corporate base natures. I think this is one of the things the Gurus have been trying to achieve from day one anyway. It's our own fault that we've gone in other directions - be this through the influence of our preSikh heritage or the influence of other outside cultures. 

[Guest GuestSingh]

22 hours ago, Guest guest said:

theres a hidden wisdom in traditions that 'liberal thinkers' and 'people who believe in equality' seem to not register.   maybe because they think people were just dumb for thousands of years whereas todays people are more 'enlightened'.  sorry, but no:

https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_0tynytdu

alcohol increases sexual desire in women:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/alcohol-can-boost-womens-sex-drive-1425970.html

whereas as in men it actually kills libido, acting more like a sedative.

hence why traditionally, women don't drink at public events in indian culture.

stop pretending men and women are the same.  they are not.  they are biologically and physiologically different.

u see the same with other traditions too i.e. food/medicine...

our older generations werent always given reasons why their older generations did em yet they still believed and relied on what was common thought and knowledge at the time - cuz it worked...but younger generations today dont have the same if any 'trust' - they see these traditions being performed thru 'blind faith' and automatically dismiss wisdom from those days as 'old wives tales'/'fiction' since theres no 'proof' or little 'logic' to satisfy their western-thinking mindset...

our forefathers/ancestors wouldve just realised what worked for em thru 'trial and error'/experience before passing it on...whereas whitey has to unnecessarily analyse and over-complicate reasoning in microscopic detail so every insignificance has some explanation...

so if a medicinal system that is thousands and thousands of years old is not good enough to younger folk, why is the west only now starting to discover and copy em? are they just waiting for whitey to give validity to a claim since they believe 'white is always right'?

when u think about it, we dont actually see any this 'evidence' for ourselves with our own eyes - we're now conditioned by society to accept any 'research'/'findings' without thinking otherwise cuz a lot of 'experts'/'scientists' says its 'true'...so it must be 'true'...but we dont even see what they do - whos to say they aint lying about something?

[Guest The Master Race]

On 2/6/2019 at 12:40 AM, GuestSingh said:

at least in those days, there was less if any worry about diluting the gene pool since our ancestory already contained hindu/muslim blood and our surroundings were made up of same folk whereas now its gonna be diluted and weakened with others from over the world and thats only gonna result in a loss of identity by appearance, a loss of culture by mixed-heritage and a loss of faith by mixed-beliefs.

Word. Our race is being diluted and weakened with non-white blood and thats only gonna result in a loss of identity by appearance, a loss of culture by mixed-heritage and a loss of faith by mixed-beliefs.

[Guest Preet]

Hi, I understand the tough spot that you are in. If the only thing that is stopping you from being with a person that loves and respects not only you BUT your values, family & faith is religion, then by all means go ahead! 

However, it is important to be sure that your would be spouse is agreeable to the possibility of the extent you’d like to raise your child in Sikhi (with Kesh etc)

I am a strong believer that Waheguruji decides our journey in life and I don’t believe we propagate a sadistic God that would bring two people who love each other to only tear them apart because they worship God differently.

 All paths lead to God. Choose what is best for you and centre your future lives around spirituality and faith in God. Do an Ardaas and Waheguruji will indeed guide you. 

I think that is most important. 

Best of luck! 

[Guest guest]

On 2/6/2019 at 10:28 AM, dallysingh101 said:

I'm not saying they are. I don't believe that they are myself. My point is that the open hypocrisy is something that you can just wash away with science. Females won't buy that in this day and age. 

it's not even hypocrisy in the first place.

 and as for saying that you cannot 'wash it away with science'".  what will they heed if not science?  their own stupid white-washed opinion?

[Guest guest]

On 2/7/2019 at 3:37 AM, GuestSingh said:

...since theres no 'proof' or little 'logic' to satisfy their western-thinking mindset...

...since they believe 'white is always right'?

sadly i think you overestimate the intelligence/ level of thinking of a lot of sikh youth, i don't even think the idea of logic or proof comes into their thinking.  if it did, they would behave more intelligently and with dignity.  rather  its just sheepish conformity and a race to the bottom.  you are right, there is this pervasive idea that "white is always right".  they put the above their own culrual and even religious precepts.

[dallysingh101]

9 hours ago, Guest guest said:

sadly i think you overestimate the intelligence/ level of thinking of a lot of sikh youth, i don't even think the idea of logic or proof comes into their thinking.  if it did, they would behave more intelligently and with dignity.  rather  its just sheepish conformity and a race to the bottom.  you are right, there is this pervasive idea that "white is always right".  they put the above their own culrual and even religious precepts.

Now you appear to be mixing culture (Panjabi) and religion (Sikhi). They can be very distinct and very often diametrically opposing ideals. 

[Sukhvirk1976]

On 2/1/2019 at 8:24 AM, Guest Singh said:

How exactly do you plan on raising your kids as Sikh?  You have been living a lie for four years yourself. This may seem harsh, but perhaps you should work on yourself before trying to raise someone else as Sikh. 

Pointless argument. Sikhs do and will marry whoever they choose and raise their kids however they choose 

[Akalifauj]

Charitorpakhyan applies easily to western women.  They basically have no limits when it comes to dating before marriage and cheating on a spouse. The eastern parts of the world kept their women in the village and they would go out for school but be picked up and dropped off by parents, brothers, and blood related uncles.  It was the eastern urban area men who would allow their women to go out of the house more freely, without a male member of the house and they would have the opportunities to behave in the manner that is described in charitorpakhyan. 

The macho wannabes on here want to make eastern women look bad because they married or their sisters are the more urban women.  Let's face it they will call the eastern people pendu.  But at least a decade ago the village families had self respect and could hold their heads high.  Still their are a lot of village people who can hold their head high for this aspect.  Cant say the same for urban eastern living.  They wanted to westernize and they are the people who use the terms, if I drink and my dad drinks, why can't my sister or wife drink.  They have no self respect.  They are basically handing over their sisters to groomers.  Only this time they welcome him with open arms and a firm handshake.