Shall we start s debate on Christianity?

[dallysingh101]

42 minutes ago, puzzled said:

 

i know that if you add bindi under sassa it becomes shassa and under jajja then it becomes the Z sound    

 

This last line of the Gurmukhi alphabet (the one with the dots) seems to have introduced in Guru Gobind Singh's time to cover Farsi sounds. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

This last line of the Gurmukhi alphabet (the one with the dots) seems to have introduced in Guru Gobind Singh's time to cover Farsi sounds. 

and that 'Z' sound is also used in Jaap sahib .

"Ki Zaaher zahoor hai . Ki Haazar Hazoor hai" , for instance 

The sounds of 'Z' and 'F' originate from Arabic  and are not present in original indian languages. 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Christians believe in one god who is the creator and sustainer of the world 

but their concept is smaller in scope and more anthromorphised - a jealous, possesive, and angry , cruel deity who lives seperate from His creation .

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Gurmuki is really easy to learn,  i'm surprised how easy it is. I can read Punjabi now but need to learn the lawan, tippi etc

i know that if you add bindi under sassa it becomes shassa and under jajja then it becomes the Z sound    

I can read the signs at the gurdwara, titles of Punjabi books,    but im kid of refraining from reading gurbani because i want to learn the lawan, tippi etc first    

you just need to learn the individual akhars and what sound they make and then revise and memorize them   and then you've got it 

yes , in punjabi its called ' * paer bindi' . 

Paer means foot , and bindi means dot, so it means 'dot near the leg' of the alphabet. 

There are 5-6 letters such. 

Khakke paer bindi . To refer to the 'Kh' sound of faarsi/arabic letter . "Khalsa" is an arabic/persian word , so "Kh" in it is rendered with "Khakke paer bindi". Original arabic/farsi alphabet :   خ

"Sasse paer bindi" : "Sh sound" . Original arabic/farsi alphabet : ش

"Gagge paer bindi" : refers to the "gh" nasal round produced by arabic letter "ghaayin" غ

"jajje paer bindi" refers to "z" sound . arabic of arabic origin : ز

"Phapphe paer bindi" or "faffa" . Original arabic letter ف

"Lalle paer bindi" is NOT of arabic/persian origin but rather of Indian sanskrit/marathi origin in which it is represented by letter : ळ  and is "L" sound produced by deeper throat . As in punjabi word "Hal" (plough) 

 

 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

but their concept is smaller in scope and more anthromorphised - a jealous, possesive, and angry , cruel deity who lives seperate from His creation .

same as its cousin Islam lol

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

same as its cousin Islam lol

but we all know that islam is a copy paste from christian and torah/ talmudic writings

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

What is the name of God in sikhi? 

The paradox is god has no name, but has infinite names at the same time. WaHeGuRu is actually maha-mantar that combines names of god from all the four ages : Wa (Wasudev) , He (Hari Krishan) , Gu (Gobind), Ru (Raam) . its mentioned in Bhai Gurdas vaaran

[jkvlondon]

7 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

yes , in punjabi its called ' * paer bindi' . 

Paer means foot , and bindi means dot, so it means 'dot near the leg' of the alphabet. 

There are 5-6 letters such. 

Khakke paer bindi . To refer to the 'Kh' sound of faarsi/arabic letter . "Khalsa" is an arabic/persian word , so "Kh" in it is rendered with "Khakke paer bindi". Original arabic/farsi alphabet :   خ

"Sasse paer bindi" : "Sh sound" . Original arabic/farsi alphabet : ش

"Gagge paer bindi" : refers to the "gh" nasal round produced by arabic letter "ghaayin" غ

"jajje paer bindi" refers to "z" sound . arabic of arabic origin : ز

"Phapphe paer bindi" or "faffa" . Original arabic letter ف

"Lalle paer bindi" is NOT of arabic/persian origin but rather of Indian sanskrit/marathi origin in which it is represented by letter : ळ  and is "L" sound produced by deeper throat . As in punjabi word "Hal" (plough) 

 

 

farsi not arabic  , persian words are mostly in our vocab ...

[Guest]

Just now, jkvlondon said:

but we all know that islam is a copy paste from christian and torah/ talmudic writings

but they say quran sharif is revealed to prophet mohamad in hira cave in mecca while he was meditating, by angel gabriel

[jkvlondon]

Just now, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

but they say quran sharif is revealed to prophet mohamad in hira cave in mecca while he was meditating, by angel gabriel

and he also doubted it was the archangel when he got back home and had to be convinced by his wife and his sister-in-law (her cousin - christian woman) that it was a true revelation , interesting then the women's witness mattered after that not worth a brass farthing