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I really don't have time for people like Sarbjit "Singh".

 

This guy spends so much time making videos and professing his love for Sikhi and concern about Sikh issues.  And yet, he is so embarrassed to be a Sikh that he goes out of his way on a regular basis to remove his beard and hair so that he can avoid looking like a Sikh.

Why should I take anything this guy has to say seriously?

Why should I care about what a Sikh who is embarrassed about being a Sikh has to say?

 

If he cares so much about the Sikh religion and Sikh community, why does he opt to look like a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Atheist/Whatever rather than look like a Sikh?  He would literally have to do NOTHING.  How much can he possible care if he can't even do something that simply requires doing NOTHING?  (Letting your kesh grow out requires zero work.  On the other hand, removing kesh requires work.)

 

He is a pathetic coward. 

People like him make me sick, and the fact that there are so many like him illustrates why today's Sikh community is so pathetic.

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8 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

I really don't have time for people like Sarbjit "Singh".

 

This guy spends so much time making videos and professing his love for Sikhi and concern about Sikh issues.  And yet, he is so embarrassed to be a Sikh that he goes out of his way on a regular basis to remove his beard and hair so that he can avoid looking like a Sikh.

Why should I take anything this guy has to say seriously?

Why should I care about what a Sikh who is embarrassed about being a Sikh has to say?

 

If he cares so much about the Sikh religion and Sikh community, why does he opt to look like a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Atheist/Whatever rather than look like a Sikh?  He would literally have to do NOTHING.  How much can he possible care if he can't even do something that simply requires doing NOTHING?  (Letting your kesh grow out requires zero work.  On the other hand, removing kesh requires work.)

 

He is a pathetic coward. 

People like him make me sick, and the fact that there are so many like him illustrates why today's Sikh community is so pathetic.

Well said bro. He being pathetic doesn't make the wider Sikh community pathetic though.

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21 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

I really don't have time for people like Sarbjit "Singh".

 

This guy spends so much time making videos and professing his love for Sikhi and concern about Sikh issues.  And yet, he is so embarrassed to be a Sikh that he goes out of his way on a regular basis to remove his beard and hair so that he can avoid looking like a Sikh.

Why should I take anything this guy has to say seriously?

Why should I care about what a Sikh who is embarrassed about being a Sikh has to say?

 

If he cares so much about the Sikh religion and Sikh community, why does he opt to look like a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Atheist/Whatever rather than look like a Sikh?  He would literally have to do NOTHING.  How much can he possible care if he can't even do something that simply requires doing NOTHING?  (Letting your kesh grow out requires zero work.  On the other hand, removing kesh requires work.)

 

He is a pathetic coward. 

People like him make me sick, and the fact that there are so many like him illustrates why today's Sikh community is so pathetic.

 

12 hours ago, JSinghnz said:

Well said bro. He being pathetic doesn't make the wider Sikh community pathetic though.

I understand your point. I feel the same when I see some clearly weak-willed, dorking looking kesh-dhari/amritdhari bloke. It's like they've totally ignored all hukams to be tyar-bar-tyar and physically active and hide behind their physical appearance. The worse one is when I get on the tube in the early mornings when very few nonwhites are about, and some dorky looking keshdhari bloke goes from looking nervous and ill at ease to ecstatic now that he isn't alone in the train carriage. And these guys are trying to be the modern incarnations of warrior Singhs of the past......yeh sure. ....

 

In anycase, so I take it you think the presenter was some sort of muppet for interviewing this guy, despite the presenter and his organisation doing more to save vulnerable members of our community, and actually taking risks in confronting the establishment here than I would imagine 2000 people like yourselves could ever do even collectively?

 

Anyone from the UK have an opinion?

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

I understand your point. I feel the same when I see some clearly weak-willed, dorking looking kesh-dhari/amritdhari bloke. It's like they've totally ignored all hukams to be tyar-bar-tyar and physically active and hide behind their physical appearance. The worse one is when I get on the tube in the early mornings when very few nonwhites are about, and some dorky looking keshdhari bloke goes from looking nervous and ill at ease to ecstatic now that he isn't alone in the train carriage. And these guys are trying to be the modern incarnations of warrior Singhs of the past......yeh sure. ....

 

In anycase, so I take it you think the presenter was some sort of muppet for interviewing this guy, despite the presenter and his organisation doing more to save vulnerable members of our community, and actually taking risks in confronting the establishment here than I would imagine 2000 people like yourselves could ever do even collectively?

 

Anyone from the UK have an opinion?

If a mona can do this amount, imagine what a keshdari or amritdhari could do.

At least he is taking action.

Haters are going to hate regardless, can't stand this crab mentality amongst our people.

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

If a mona can do this amount, imagine what a keshdari or amritdhari could do.

At least he is taking action.

Haters are going to hate regardless, can't stand this crab mentality amongst our people.

I think people in the UK are getting more and more clued up. Those previous posts in the thread were from a US SIkh and one from NZ. God knows where their heads are at? 

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On 2/17/2019 at 2:42 PM, californiasardar1 said:

I really don't have time for people like Sarbjit "Singh".

 

This guy spends so much time making videos and professing his love for Sikhi and concern about Sikh issues.  And yet, he is so embarrassed to be a Sikh that he goes out of his way on a regular basis to remove his beard and hair so that he can avoid looking like a Sikh.

Why should I take anything this guy has to say seriously?

Why should I care about what a Sikh who is embarrassed about being a Sikh has to say?

 

If he cares so much about the Sikh religion and Sikh community, why does he opt to look like a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Atheist/Whatever rather than look like a Sikh?  He would literally have to do NOTHING.  How much can he possible care if he can't even do something that simply requires doing NOTHING?  (Letting your kesh grow out requires zero work.  On the other hand, removing kesh requires work.)

 

He is a pathetic coward. 

People like him make me sick, and the fact that there are so many like him illustrates why today's Sikh community is so pathetic.

Other than his appearance did you have a problem with what he said?

Hes speaking about social issues happening currently in the Sikh Community in western countries. Maybe if he had Gursikhs like Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa Bhindranwale around him.  he would become a Sikh by keeping hair uncut.  I dont think hes against the Sikhi saroop like the poster @dallysingh101.  Dallysingh101 takes any opportunity to slander the Sikh saroop.  So in this sense this poster is a sheep but talking large on forum for 3 decades but has not done anything.  

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9 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think people in the UK are getting more and more clued up. Those previous posts in the thread were from a US SIkh and one from NZ. God knows where their heads are at? 

UK Sikhs are the most established diaspora community. Overall we are probably more balanced in our thinking.

The diaspora in other countries are more fresh off the boat and they think more in extremes. It will take them a few decades to catch up.

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On 2/17/2019 at 10:42 PM, californiasardar1 said:

If he cares so much about the Sikh religion and Sikh community, why does he opt to look like a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Atheist/Whatever rather than look like a Sikh?  He would literally have to do NOTHING.  How much can he possible care if he can't even do something that simply requires doing NOTHING?  (Letting your kesh grow out requires zero work.  On the other hand, removing kesh requires work.)

 

He is a pathetic coward. 

People like him make me sick, and the fact that there are so many like him illustrates why today's Sikh community is so pathetic.

Did it ever occur to you and anyone else with this mindset that maybe the person in question just isn't ready to commit fully to Sikhi and he's showing his love for it by doing what he's doing.

Your professing your love of Sikhi by tearing down others and judging them because they don't meet your idea or exacting standard of what you think Sikhi means.

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2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

UK Sikhs are the most established diaspora community. Overall we are probably more balanced in our thinking.

The diaspora in other countries are more fresh off the boat and they think more in extremes. It will take them a few decades to catch up.

I think it's a little more than the above. I believe the broader national mentality and characteristics of the host country has a part to play. Whether we're consciously aware of it not, there's a certain influence on thought and behaviour that originates from the culture that we've been exposed to from birth. 

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9 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I think it's a little more than the above. I believe the broader national mentality and characteristics of the host country has a part to play. Whether we're consciously aware of it not, there's a certain influence on thought and behaviour that originates from the culture that we've been exposed to from birth. 

That definitely plays a part.

The longer the community are in a country it is natural that one will pick up the host country's characteristics. 

I don't know how the Canadian Sikh diaspora will develop. They are stuck in 1984. 

The Australian /NZ is more recent. They are post millenials from Punjab. They are a different breed.

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12 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Other than his appearance did you have a problem with what he said?

Hes speaking about social issues happening currently in the Sikh Community in western countries. Maybe if he had Gursikhs like Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa Bhindranwale around him.  he would become a Sikh by keeping hair uncut.  I dont think hes against the Sikhi saroop like the poster @dallysingh101.  Dallysingh101 takes any opportunity to slander the Sikh saroop.  So in this sense this poster is a sheep but talking large on forum for 3 decades but has not done anything.  

I'm not against Sikhi saroop at all. I am against people wearing it, acting all sanctimonious but then who conveniently jettison all instructions to be physically ready to protect your community like proper cowards. I'd say that the odds are that you you're one of these yourself?  

Now I understand if someone has medical conditions and whatnot that prevent them. But most don't fall in this category. It's just plain laziness and cowardice.

A khota hiding underneath a tiger's skin (as our Guru so aptly demonstrated). 

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2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I think it's a little more than the above. I believe the broader national mentality and characteristics of the host country has a part to play. Whether we're consciously aware of it not, there's a certain influence on thought and behaviour that originates from the culture that we've been exposed to from birth. 

I think for the intelligent amongst us, it's deeper than that - it's not exactly the influence of the broader national mentality, but actually a comprehension of this, and how it has affected Sikhs historically (in the run up to and after the dubious 'annexation') and with the politics that has been played with us in contemporary times. Understanding the policies enacted after the annexation (i.e. demilitarisation leading to Sikhs adopting symbolic rather than functional weapons, a change to indigenous cultural/educational practices, racialised/polarising identity/language politics); partition; the surreptitious support in 84 which only became apparent decades afterwards; the determined and persistent obfuscation of the grooming issue by the police and governmental agencies. 

People who are becoming aware of these things on a holistic level are seeing things in a new light. Or more accurately, they are actually seeing things for what they are/were outside of the motivated narratives that have traditionally been wrapped around these issues, which presume we are a slow witted people. 

 

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