Shiv Kumar Batalvis poem on Guru Gobind Singh Ji

[puzzled]

Shiv Kumar Batalvi wrote a poem about Guru Gobind Singh ji titled "aarti"          he was a great man and did a lot of seva for Punjabi language during the time when the government was fast at work trying to replace Punjabi with Hindi and when Punjabi was seen as a ugly rural language he wrote some beautiful Punjabi poems. 

 

[dallysingh101]

29 minutes ago, puzzled said:

when Punjabi was seen as a ugly rural language

If people had been more aware of what had been written in Panjabi, others would never had been able to make such claims. 

It's our own people's laziness towards being well read, like most civilised people are (something that was pushed hard by dasmesh pita himself too), that gives people the opportunity to make disparaging comments like this. 

[puzzled]

On 2/25/2019 at 10:43 PM, dallysingh101 said:

If people had been more aware of what had been written in Panjabi, others would never had been able to make such claims. 

It's our own people's laziness towards being well read, like most civilised people are (something that was pushed hard by dasmesh pita himself too), that gives people the opportunity to make disparaging comments like this. 

I blame Punjabis themselves from poetry like the one i posted above to lakh 28, seeti maar ke and other bakwaas. i mean how lower can you fall.   Punjabi singers have turned punjabi language into some balle balle shava shava clown language. 

Punjabi used to be considered a poetic language thats why so many poets used it to write poetry, even as early as the 10th century many nath poets were using Punajbi to write devotional poems. 

[dallysingh101]

15 hours ago, puzzled said:

I blame Punjabis themselves from poetry like the one i posted above to lakh 28, seeti maar ke and other bakwaas. i mean how lower can you fall.   Punjabi singers have turned punjabi language into some balle balle shava shava clown language. 

Punjabi used to be considered a poetic language thats why so many poets used it to write poetry, even as early as the 10th century many nath poets were using Punajbi to write devotional poems. 

I tell you what. When I work I hear so many languages around me. I have to say, the way many pendus speak Panjabi with a heavy nasalised tone, which was nothing like the Panjabi I heard growing up, is really grating on the ears. lol

You'd have only the odd person speaking in that heavily nasalised form when I was younger. Don't know what happened? 

[S1ngh]

5 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I have to say, the way many pendus speak Panjabi with a heavy nasalised tone, which was nothing like the Panjabi I heard growing up, is really grating on the ears. lol

Are you hating on pendus - our sikh sisters and bothers from rural Punjab? 

[dallysingh101]

2 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Are you hating on pendus - our sikh sisters and bothers from rural Punjab? 

Nothing to do with hating. Any society that is going to progress needs to evolve in certain respects. Unnecessarily butchering a beautiful language, that IS NOT simplistic or unsophisticated only reinforces the whole Panjabi as a backwards, pendu, simple-minded language and culture. 

A lot of pendus DO need to refine how they speak Panjabi - and especially increase their vocabulary. The general pendu apathy towards reading is a big problem. And don't talk like you know something about this. I work around apnay pendus probably more than any of you.

Are you denying this is a problem?

I'm no fan of Babbu Maan, but he nailed it when he said: 

"In the pend, the one guy who is actually educated is considered to be some sort of fool."

Again, I'm shocked at how the language has changed since my parents and grandparents time. They never spoke like that? The odd fellows that did (andthe number was small and they were noticeable), would draw restrained smirks from people. Maybe that generation was different for some reason? You couldn't get more difference between the desis of today and those I personally saw and grew up around a generation or two back. 

[puzzled]

I think the way we speak punjabi has become more lazy and slurred. I think in the old days they spoke Punjabi with pronouncing each letter properly and with definition, think Punjabi was spoken with more breath as well.  

[Guest Khalsa Raj]

On 3/2/2019 at 4:52 PM, S1ngh said:

Are you hating on pendus - our sikh sisters and bothers from rural Punjab? 

He is what Pendus call a pariaa moorakh.

[dallysingh101]

On 3/4/2019 at 11:11 PM, Guest Khalsa Raj said:

He is what Pendus call a pariaa moorakh.

How do you know, are you a pendu yourself? 

Do you look like Jazzy B?