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10 hours ago, puzzled said:

Kalyug is like the manifestation of the dark age that we are currently living in. Kalyug is the age of confusion, falsehood and corruption.   This age manifested itself in a demonic form before guru nanak dev ji, it tried intimidating guru ji and then offered gold? But guru ji being a reflection of God himself didn't fall for any of kalyug tricks.   Kalyug appeared before guru holding his private parts, when guru ji questioned the position of his hands, kalyug replied saying that this is his age and in his age he will lead blind people with lust and lead them astray with lust. 

Kalyug at the end bowed down before guru ji 

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ

Kaljug was also holding is tongue too so people will also be chasing after taste of food and also slander and love lies (go away from the truth of God as we can see) in the dark of age of Kaljug.

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You may surely ask and you are most welcome   How and what people think, that is up to them, the thing is, in Guru Granth Sahib, our  Gurus tell us, that the Light is in each and everyone,

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On 3/17/2019 at 3:05 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

My first question is: what do you Sikh people think of Christians? I have heard you respect Jesus Christ as a prophet. 

Sikhs usually speak of prophets/founders/teachers of other religions like Jesus, Moses, Krishna, etc. with respect using honorifics like "ji" etc.

That doesn't mean they believe in them as their saviors.

On 3/17/2019 at 3:19 PM, Jaggaa said:

I think there is very little if any mention of him in our scripture or even in any historical literature of ours.

There's no mention of Jesus in Guru Granth Sahib ji.

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On 3/17/2019 at 3:43 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

Thank you. I have sikh friends and we have good discussions. One matter came up recently. About the devil. In our Bible he certainly features, especially in how he tempted Christ during his 40 days fast in the desert. A mature sikh lady i know is adamant that the same thing occurred to one of your Gurus. So do your holy scriptures have reference to this?

One thing you have to watch for is people who "heard something" and are passing it on to you. The fact is no such event occurred (i.e., temptation). It's impossible to prove a negative, so if your friend insists that it did occur, have her provide the references and post it on this site so we can evaluate it.

I suppose it may be possible she may be referring to the time that Guru Arjan Dev ji was being tortured to martyrdom, but that's simply not the same thing as being tempted by the Devil.

On 3/17/2019 at 3:43 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

Do Sikhs believe in Satan orcthe devil?

Not as in an entity that stands against God.

There is something called Maya, which is the attachment that humans have for the world.

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On 3/17/2019 at 4:00 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

I am impressed immediately actually at the warm welcome. I know Sikhs never cause trouble in the world. It is a good peaceful religion.

Thanks for the kind words.

On 3/17/2019 at 4:00 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

So i am confident in my faith.

That's good, no one is trying to convert you.

On 3/17/2019 at 4:00 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

I am fascinated at the many similarities in the teaching in the Bible and in Sikhi.

Most of the basic moral teachings are similar. The mode of worship or of salvation has differences.

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On 3/18/2019 at 8:59 AM, Dsinghdp said:

Sikhi is much more powerful than Christianity because we have 10 Gurus.

Seriously, bro, that's the reason? If someone makes up a religion with 20 leaders, will it be 2X as powerful as Sikhism?

On 3/18/2019 at 8:59 AM, Dsinghdp said:

We have Guru Granth Sahib (actually written by the Gurus themselves).

This is an important point. Even Christians don't claim that Jesus Christ wrote the Bible. 

On 3/18/2019 at 8:59 AM, Dsinghdp said:

Our scripture is much more vast,

Because it has a 100 or so more pages?

On 3/18/2019 at 8:59 AM, Dsinghdp said:

has a deeper meaning

That's an opinion that we might have as Sikhs, but what use is it to say to a Christian?

On 3/18/2019 at 8:59 AM, Dsinghdp said:

and can be sung.

Yes, that's true. None of the New Testament is really meant to be sung.

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On 3/18/2019 at 9:52 AM, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

Our Gurus are so great that even Jesus appeared to Baba Harnaam Singh ji and told Baba ji how blessed he is to be following Guru Sahib's path.

What's the point of trying to tell her this? Are we expecting her to leave Christianity for Sikhism?

Secondly, you gave no context for what it is you are quoting. People posted above that Jesus is mentioned nowhere in the Sikh scriptures, so it would be quite confusing to read what you wrote below.

For anyone who doesn't know, the quote is from a biography of the late saint Harnam Singh, a saint of the last half of the 20th century written by his successor.

Finally the quote does not say that Jesus follows Guru Sahib's path, it merely claims that Jesus wants his followers to follow the Guru's path.

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1 hour ago, BhForce said:

What's the point of trying to tell her this? Are we expecting her to leave Christianity for Sikhism?

Secondly, you gave no context for what it is you are quoting. People posted above that Jesus is mentioned nowhere in the Sikh scriptures, so it would be quite confusing to read what you wrote below.

For anyone who doesn't know, the quote is from a biography of the late saint Harnam Singh, a saint of the last half of the 20th century written by his successor.

Finally the quote does not say that Jesus follows Guru Sahib's path, it merely claims that Jesus wants his followers to follow the Guru's path.

I was actually about to write out a reply to that particular post (even typed it out) but I refrained from doing so because I thought he's probably someone really young and going to take it personally but the whole post was very childlike, defensive and was an unnecessary contribution. 

More importantly like you mentioned it's a biography written by his successor - although a very inspirational read (SeKinehya) it is not scripture or Sikh history. 

It's a shame people are unable to have a healthy dialog with people asking questions about the Sikh faith, perhaps the lady who opened the topic will be able to appreciate that on this forum anyone can come and write a post and that if she wants a more clear answer she is better off discussing the religion with people in real life that are more educated and representative of Sikhi and therefore are somewhat qualified to answer questions. 

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17 hours ago, puzzled said:

Kalyug is like the manifestation of the dark age that we are currently living in. Kalyug is the age of confusion, falsehood and corruption.   This age manifested itself in a demonic form before guru nanak dev ji, it tried intimidating guru ji and then offered gold? But guru ji being a reflection of God himself didn't fall for any of kalyug tricks.   Kalyug appeared before guru holding his private parts, when guru ji questioned the position of his hands, kalyug replied saying that this is his age and in his age he will lead people blind with lust and lead them astray with lust. 

Kalyug at the end bowed down before guru ji and admitted defeat 

Hi

That is very helpful. This is i think the story that confused my source to lead her to think the devil had tempted the Guru. 

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On 3/20/2019 at 8:05 AM, BhForce said:

What's the point of trying to tell her this? Are we expecting her to leave Christianity for Sikhism?

Secondly, you gave no context for what it is you are quoting. People posted above that Jesus is mentioned nowhere in the Sikh scriptures, so it would be quite confusing to read what you wrote below.

For anyone who doesn't know, the quote is from a biography of the late saint Harnam Singh, a saint of the last half of the 20th century written by his successor.

Finally the quote does not say that Jesus follows Guru Sahib's path, it merely claims that Jesus wants his followers to follow the Guru's path.

Hi

Indeed that story is startling and important. Was it written in your Holy Book? 

As a Christian i believe 100% in what The Bible says. All other books are the authors own conjectures usually.  I know that true Sikhs will also only go only by their own Holy Scriptures. So do refer me to your actual source please. 

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On 3/20/2019 at 1:14 PM, BhForce said:

 

There's no mention of Jesus in Guru Granth Sahib ji.

there are mentions of Christianity in SGGS, isn't it? "KATEB" means the people of Book. or maybe you are only talking abt, Jesus. 

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On 3/21/2019 at 3:31 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

Hi

Indeed that story is startling and important. Was it written in your Holy Book? 

As a Christian i believe 100% in what The Bible says. All other books are the authors own conjectures usually.  I know that true Sikhs will also only go only by their own Holy Scriptures. So do refer me to your actual source please. 

That is great Christiangirl. As Sikhs we only teach our faith to those that would like to learn. We do not preach to try and make someone leave their own religion and join ours. Sikhs believe all faiths can lead to God if you practice your faith properly and with a sincere heart. 

I have actually been to a church a few times and have admired the sermons and talks. 

 

 

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On 3/21/2019 at 3:31 PM, Christiangirl52 said:

Hi

Indeed that story is startling and important. Was it written in your Holy Book? 

As a Christian i believe 100% in what The Bible says. All other books are the authors own conjectures usually.  I know that true Sikhs will also only go only by their own Holy Scriptures. So do refer me to your actual source please. 

That's great. We recommend that you should follow your faith with a full heart every day. And you can take these 3 teachings of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaaj to help you further.

1st teaching 

Naam Japo - which means recite the name of God and sing his praises as much as possible with a full heart. Guru Sahib has told us that when you pray and love God with a pure heart you are able to experience God (on the top of your head specifically, at a centre called Dasam Duaar - the tenth door) and you will feel bliss.

2nd teaching 

Kirat Karo - Earn an honest living. Work hard and earn money, that's great. But don't have greed for money and always work honestly. No lies, stealing etc. And also be grateful for what you God gives you.

3rd teaching

Vand Ke Chhako - Share before you consume. This means before you eat or spend money, share with others. Give to charity out of love for you neighbour and spread the love of God with everyone. 

If you can adopt these three teaching (there are many more, but these 3 teachings will help a lot), staying away from sins and vices like Lust, Anger, Greed, Attachment and Pride and your life will be successful.

Hopefully that helped :)

 

 

Some videos for you to watch related to Sikhi and Christianity.

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5 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

That is great Christiangirl. As Sikhs we only teach our faith to those that would like to learn. We do not preach to try and make someone leave their own religion and join ours. Sikhs believe all faiths can lead to God if you practice your faith properly and with a sincere heart. 

I have actually been to a church a few times and have admired the sermons and talks. 

 

 

That is so good. I think it is incredibly useful to go and experience another faith. I am of an Anglican church and our services are very straightforward. Our head as yoy know is Queen Elizabeth. All teaching bible based. I am proud to ne a christian as you all are to be Sikh and we can learn from each other. 

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