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200 year old sikh build being demolished tonight!!


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1 minute ago, MisterrSingh said:

The guards and the officials at places like Auschwitz offered up the same argument when confronted with their crimes after WW2: "We were following orders." Although I'm not comparing a damaged building to the taking of a life, the idea of underlings blindly following orders at the behest of a superior without thought to the results of their actions, speaks to how far these chelleh are willing to go.

these people are following the orders if their babeh like a bunch of sheep!  honestly how lost are indians!  

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28 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yeah, and I'm old enough to know where the whole flashy drunk wedding party style started from, and how it became a norm. 

Again, it's plain denial. At least Juts in the past had the straight boll0cks to proudly say that drinking and bhangra was a truly Jut thing. When you went to wedding 35 odd years ago, the whole drink up thing was rare and associated with who you'd expect it to be. 

It's just another example of majority culture affecting the the rest. Like bhangra. That's not to excuse the others who jumped on this and made it mainstream. 

We ALL have to start thinking more about these things and their long term consequences. We struggle with that as a community. It's the same thing going on with demolishing buildings like in the OP. 

We need a lot of change in mentalities. All of us. 

Sorry for the intrusion on the thread puzzled. 

thats just shifting the blame on others, so you saying tharkhans, khatris and everyone else started drinking because of the jatts?  lmao    there are wedding vids on youtube of sikh weddings in kenya and they are drinking and doing balle balle, is that because of jatts as well?    

funny you say that because within jatt community kenyan sikhs are considered way to liberal, westernized and heavy drinkers. and having worked in a hotel where many kenyan ramgharia sikh wedding parties were hosted i can see why.

a kenyan sikh guy who works with me even told me that when he first came to the UK from kenya 6 years ago he found the sikhs in the UK to be very conservative,  that says a lot about kenyan sikh culture!

their are videos on youtube of paki and afhangi sikhs drinking and doing pathan styled dancing,  has jatt culture reached all the way to the afghani and paki sikhs too?

alcohol is deep rooted in Punjabi culture   

 

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the whole of gurdwara tarn taran complex should be preserved 

"In 1768 Sardar Budh Singh Virk of Singhpuria Misl and Maharaja Jassa Singh Ramgarhia of Ramgarhia Misl joined hands to rebuild the Darbar Sahib Tarn Taran. Which then was in a shape of a traditional mud building.

Later Maharaja Ranjit Singh Sher-e-Panjab (1799–1839), who visited Darbar Sahib Tarn Taran from 1802-1837, reconstructed the present Darbar Sahib Tarn Taran in 1836-1837 and also completed the work of the Parikarma which had been left unfinished by the two Sardars Singhpuria Misl and Ramgarhia Misl. Sher-e-Panjab gold-plated the Darbar Sahib Tarn Taran, as he did with the Harmandir Sahib at Amritsar. Artisans were called in by the Maharaja of Panjab Kingdom to decorate the inside of Darbar Sahib Tarn Taran.

When Maharaja Nau Nihal Singh, the grandson of Sher-e-Panjab, came to Tarn Taran, he built a minara (tower) at the end of the sarovar"

 

minar built by maharaja nau nihal singh

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1 hour ago, puzzled said:

thats just shifting the blame on others, so you saying tharkhans, khatris and everyone else started drinking because of the jatts?  lmao 

Dude, it's the truth. It's even more complex than that because my first job (by pure fate) was in this industry that certain brothers had dominated by then. I don't know where you live, but when I was growing up, apnay from a certain jaat dominated the booze industry (in amassive way!) whether it be in the number of Off Licenses or the the actual supply from warehouses. I really enjoyed my time working there to be honest but there is a bigger picture we need to look at in hindsight. But we have to start thinking strategically and out of the box now. 

ਅਜ ਕੱਲ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇੰਜ ਲਗਦਾ ਵੀ ਜੱਟ ਵੀਰ ਦੁਸ਼ਮਣ ਤੇ ਮਤੱਰ ਦਾ ਫਰਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਛਾਣ ਸਕ ਦੇ। ਜੇੜ੍ਹੇ ਸਾਡੇ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ ਹਨ ਨੂੰ ਦੋਸਤ ਸਮਜ ਦੇ ਨੇ।  ਲੱਲੂ ਹੋਣ ਦਾ ਸਮਾ ਨਹੀ। ਬਹੋਤ ਪੋਤੈਨਸ਼ਲ ਖਤਰਾ ਹੈ। ਤਿਖਾ ਰੈਣ ਦੀ ਜਰੂਰਤ ਹੈ। ਏਥੇ ਵੀ ਗੋਰੇ ਜਸੂਸ ਸਾਡੀਆਂ ਗੱਲਾਂ ਦਾ ਚੇਤਾ ਰੱਖ ਦੇ ਨੇ।

 

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Dude, it's the truth. It's even more complex than that because my first job (by pure fate) was in this industry that certain brothers had dominated by then. I don't know where you live, but when I was growing up, apnay from a certain jaat dominated the booze industry (in amassive way!) whether it be in the number of Off Licenses or the the actual supply from warehouses. I really enjoyed my time working there to be honest but there is a bigger picture we need to look at in hindsight. But we have to start thinking strategically and out of the box now. 

ਅਜ ਕੱਲ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇੰਜ ਲਗਦਾ ਵੀ ਜੱਟ ਵੀਰ ਦੁਸ਼ਮਣ ਤੇ ਮਤੱਰ ਦਾ ਫਰਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਛਾਣ ਸਕ ਦੇ। ਜੇੜ੍ਹੇ ਸਾਡੇ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ ਹਨ ਨੂੰ ਦੋਸਤ ਸਮਜ ਦੇ ਨੇ।  ਲੱਲੂ ਹੋਣ ਦਾ ਸਮਾ ਨਹੀ। ਬਹੋਤ ਪੋਤੈਨਸ਼ਲ ਖਤਰਾ ਹੈ। ਤਿਖਾ ਰੈਣ ਦੀ ਜਰੂਰਤ ਹੈ। ਏਥੇ ਵੀ ਗੋਰੇ ਜਸੂਸ ਸਾਡੀਆਂ ਗੱਲਾਂ ਦਾ ਚੇਤਾ ਰੱਖ ਦੇ ਨੇ।

 

I'm pretty sure you've stated before that your dad used to put alcohol in your mouth when your were a kid, and another female member on here whose family are from Kenya also has said the same.  We're the jatts making your fathers do that? 

You need to aknowledge that's alcohol is a part of every punjabi communities culture. 

Look over to Pakistan and paki punjabis have a reputation for being drinkers in pakistan and jatts are a tiny irrelevant % in paki punjab.

Kenyan sikhs even drank in Kenya and continued doing the same when they got booted out. Kenyan sikhs clearly are more liberal and out going, the UK never made them like that they already were like that.  I know for a fact that alcohol is a big problem in the Kenyan sikh community and that's got nothing to do with jatts. 

The first sikhs in the UK were bhatras and they all used to go to the pub, in fact that's were udham singh used to go and talk to the Irish dealers. These pub going bhatras arrived in the UK way before the jatts did. 

This whole culture of filthy punjab I songs was actually started back in the 60s 70s and 80s were majority of the singers were non jatts. Some of the most filthy songs were sung by Ranjit kaur a tharkhan lady along with her musalmans marasi singing partner mohd Sadiq

Chamkila ask sung sleazy songs and he was a chamars while his wife and singing partner amarjot was a tharkhan 

These people begun the culture of filthy lyrics, they set the trend.

Sikhs in Delhi are are seen as typical punjabis with their alcohol and balle balle culture yet majority of them are khatris/aroras ,  nothing to do with jatts. 

Blaming everything on jatts don't help the issues that all these Other communities have. 

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Here's Kenyan sikhs doing some balle balle in front of the Kenyan president all the way back in the 70s      

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Daler mehndi a Khatri, bhatra or whatever he is has made a entire living doing balle balle in front of non sikh audience, is that related to jatts as well?  Don't think so ... 

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