Amritpaan

[Guest Jas]

Ki main amritpaan Kar sakda as without my wife

[Sikhi4Ever]

Yes you can. Also depends on panj piyaray. If they are ok then it is fine.

[BhForce]

1 hour ago, Sikhi4Ever said:

Yes you can. Also depends on panj piyaray. If they are ok then it is fine.

Why are you misleading him, bro? It's not like going to be in you're in charge of his amrit sanskar.

"Guest Jas", in the normal case, the Punj Piyare will ask if you are married. If you aren't, they'll tell you to marry an amritdhari when you do get married.

If you are married, they'll ask you where your wife is.

The reason is quite simple: They know that married life is composed of both husband and wife, and you won't be able to live an amritdhari life without your wife.

It seems that you have gotten far ahead of your wife in terms of Sikhism.

Why did you leave her behind instead of taking her with you?

[Sikhi4Ever]

Again it depends on the panj piyarays. If they are ok with him coming for Amrit shak without his wife then it is ok. If they turn him away then it fine too. I can give few examples of gursikhs who did the exact same. 

[BhForce]

42 minutes ago, Sikhi4Ever said:

Again it depends on the panj piyarays. If they are ok with him coming for Amrit shak without his wife then it is ok. If they turn him away then it fine too. I can give few examples of gursikhs who did the exact same. 

Well, in one sense, yes.

But would you say the same in relation to hair? "It depends on the punj piyarays. If they are OK with you cutting your hair after taking Amrit, then it is OK."

Well, no, it's not OK. There's an actual theory and doctrine behind it, not just the whim of the Panj Piyare on the spot, like they are just flipping a coin.

[Sikhi4Ever]

We need to trust Panj piyarays. If there is no trust then that person is not ready.
 

In the olden days, out of a Sangat of say 100 who wanted Amrit....possibly 30 were accepted....the majority were turned back and asked to prepare more thoroughly and return next time. Infact, many were refused several times.

Shaheed Bhai Fauja Singh Jee was turned back the first time and when he came back the second time, the Panj Pyare refused again...but this time Bhai Fauja Singh Jee refused to leave without the Great Gift of Naam/Amrit....so the Panj Pyare told him to go and lay down on a railway track until told otherwise. Bhai Fauja Singh rushed off to obey Guru Sahib's command and one Singh was sent secretly to observe him and told to pull him away before the train comes. Bhai Fauja Singh Jee lay on the track and even upon the obvious arrival of the train did not shift at all. The Singh who was sent behind Bhai Fauja Singh Jee ran out and tried to pull away Bhai Fauja Singh Jee before the train killed him, but Bhai Fauja Singh Jee refused to leave...not wanting to disobey his Guru....eventually he was pulled away in time and they returned to the Panj Pyare who ONLY then were satisfied with him. 

[BhForce]

On 4/27/2019 at 9:46 PM, Sikhi4Ever said:

We need to trust Panj piyarays. If there is no trust then that person is not ready.

It's 

On 4/27/2019 at 9:46 PM, Sikhi4Ever said:

Shaheed Bhai Fauja Singh Jee was turned back the first time and when he came back the second time, the Panj Pyare refused again.

You want to use a story about the Panj Piyare being tough and maintaining "the rules" to defend Panj Piyare violating the rules?