Harnek Singh 200,000 subscribers. The panth is changing

[Guest 500rma]

Been watching his videos and following him for a while now. I agree with him largely, but also disagree with him for his stance on some of his views.

His critics hardly ever pose a reasonable challenge, but argue that he is a revisionist. He has the following claims:

1. Damdami Taksal is falsehood that has taken over sikhi. He claims Jarnail Singh bhindrawale along with his followers are/were “Gunday” that have done so much damage to the panth. 

2. His stance about the tarn taran issue is also controversial.

3. He disagrees with the main story of the Amrit sanchar of 1699. He claims that the panj pyare that got up were basically told by Guru Gobind Singh to do so prior to the ceremony. Basically it was staged.

4. He doesn’t believe in dasam Granth and claims that it’s false. Specifically triya charritar. This has been his main issue, to stop the Parkash of dasam Granth from all the takhts. 

He has other criticisms regarding dasam bani and other stories sikhs have been told growing up.

All the people on this forum that disagree with him, what is your opinion? 

Can anyone any mahapurakh, pseudo mahapurakhs of the 21st century, can prove him wrong. 

Are we just blindly following whatever is being shoved down our throats?   

[S1ngh]

What part of stuff that you largely agree with him? 

[GuestSingh12345]

On 4/13/2019 at 2:00 AM, Guest 500rma said:

prove him wrong. 

so to clarify your stance before making any argument,you're saying that you think he has the right stance on the 4 points you mentioned?

[Guest Hiii]

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[BhForce]

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

Been watching his videos and following him for a while now.

Welcome to SikhSangat, Harnek.  Get an account (it's free) and we can talk.

 

[BhForce]

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

. I agree with him largely, but also disagree with him for his stance on some of his views.

I doubt that. You didn't list a single thing that you disagree with him on.

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

Are we just blindly following whatever is being shoved down our throats?   

No, you are blindly following Harnek. There are plenty of people trying to tear down Sikhi. Harnek has the absolute foulest mouth in this entire Panth. And you choose him as your guru?

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

His critics hardly ever pose a reasonable challenge,

Oh, I'm sure that's true. Not. I'm quite sure you're presenting the best face of his critics.

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

1. Damdami Taksal is falsehood that has taken over sikhi. He claims Jarnail Singh bhindrawale along with his followers are/were “Gunday” that have done so much damage to the panth. 

What, exactly, is the argument? Just calling Taksal names?

The entire reason Sikhs respect Sant ji is that they support the political aims of the Sikh nation. That doesn't mean you have to agree with every little thing that they said. 

But Harnek the fool calling those fighters "gunday" just means that he's aligned with those who wanted to kill our people. Praise to you who thinks Harnek is some sort of prophet.

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

2. His stance about the tarn taran issue is also controversial.

Did you want to post what the stance is to discuss?

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

3. He disagrees with the main story of the Amrit sanchar of 1699. He claims that the panj pyare that got up were basically told by Guru Gobind Singh to do so prior to the ceremony. Basically it was staged

If it was "staged", why does he pretend to be an "Amritdhari"?

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

4. He doesn’t believe in dasam Granth and claims that it’s false. Specifically triya charritar. This has been his main issue, to stop the Parkash of dasam Granth from all the takhts. 

Wow, what a great accomplishment that would be. And what would the point be, exactly?

 

[chatanga1]

On 4/13/2019 at 7:00 AM, Guest 500rma said:

1. Damdami Taksal is falsehood that has taken over sikhi. He claims Jarnail Singh bhindrawale along with his followers are/were “Gunday” that have done so much damage to the panth. 

2. His stance about the tarn taran issue is also controversial.

3. He disagrees with the main story of the Amrit sanchar of 1699. He claims that the panj pyare that got up were basically told by Guru Gobind Singh to do so prior to the ceremony. Basically it was staged.

4. He doesn’t believe in dasam Granth and claims that it’s false. Specifically triya charritar. This has been his main issue, to stop the Parkash of dasam Granth from all the takhts. 

He has other criticisms regarding dasam bani and other stories sikhs have been told growing up.

All the people on this forum that disagree with him, what is your opinion?

 

What is your honest answer to the above claims?

 

On 4/13/2019 at 7:00 AM, Guest 500rma said:

Can anyone any mahapurakh, pseudo mahapurakhs of the 21st century, can prove him wrong.

 

What is a pseudo mahapurkh? And do you have anyone who fits your definition of it?

 

[Guest Guest Manbir Singh]

He is wrong and just attention seeking when he talks about Shaheed Singhs. He doesn't know anything i'm sure.  Also he should go against Dhadiranwale and NKJ as much as he does Taksal.

All these Sikh orgs are corrupt .

[BhForce]

7 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

On 4/12/2019 at 11:00 PM, Guest 500rma said:

Can anyone any mahapurakh, pseudo mahapurakhs of the 21st century, can prove him wrong.

 

What is a pseudo mahapurkh? And do you have anyone who fits your definition of it?

A pseudo mahapurkh is a preacher who wears a chola that he disagrees with.

A mahapurkh, on the other hand, is a person who wears a chola that he does agree with. For example, Dhadrianwale, wears a chola and says there's no God, no hell, no afterworld, no such thing as naam simran. He would be a mahapurkh Harnek the paapi could get behind.

[Guest Taksali]

On 4/13/2019 at 7:00 AM, Guest 500rma said:

Been watching his videos and following him for a while now. I agree with him largely, but also disagree with him for his stance on some of his views.

His critics hardly ever pose a reasonable challenge, but argue that he is a revisionist. He has the following claims:

1. Damdami Taksal is falsehood that has taken over sikhi. He claims Jarnail Singh bhindrawale along with his followers are/were “Gunday” that have done so much damage to the panth. 

2. His stance about the tarn taran issue is also controversial.

3. He disagrees with the main story of the Amrit sanchar of 1699. He claims that the panj pyare that got up were basically told by Guru Gobind Singh to do so prior to the ceremony. Basically it was staged.

4. He doesn’t believe in dasam Granth and claims that it’s false. Specifically triya charritar. This has been his main issue, to stop the Parkash of dasam Granth from all the takhts. 

He has other criticisms regarding dasam bani and other stories sikhs have been told growing up.

All the people on this forum that disagree with him, what is your opinion? 

Can anyone any mahapurakh, pseudo mahapurakhs of the 21st century, can prove him wrong. 

Are we just blindly following whatever is being shoved down our throats?   

Most of the 200,000 followers are brain dead missionaries