Anyone know why when reciting Benti Chaupai some parts are missed out

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On 4/26/2019 at 10:44 AM, ipledgeblue said:

The fact is the benti chaupai is still not completed properly even before getting to Arril. It's only a few lines including Kripa karee.. ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੀ ਹਮ ਪਰ ਜਗਮਾਤਾ .

Seems some kind of mischief which some colonial era sikhs believed in and added into SGPC rehit maryada! I am pretty sure some groups and jathebandis were allergic to shabad such as Jagmata in colonial times. 

 

This is why Benti Chaupai is abruptly ended, without finishing a few more lines. I don't see any respect in this, it is some weird kind of paranoid beadbi.

Yeah I've started to read the entire Benti Chaupai, as it was attended,  can you imagine if some didn't finish the entire mool mantra,  all hell would break loose.

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I read from a sundar gutka app on my phone and chaupai sahib goes up to

ਖੜਗ ਕੇਤ ਮੈਂ ਸ਼ਰਨਿ ਤਿਹਾਰੀ ॥ ਆਪ ਹਾਥ ਦੈ ਲੇਹੁ ਉਬਾਰੀ ॥
Lord of the Almighty Sword, provides a shield for my protection. With Your Hands you have saved me.
 

ਸਰਬ ਠੌਰ ਮੋ ਹੋਹੁ ਸਹਾਈ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖ ਤੇ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਚਾਈ ॥੪੦੧॥
You bestow help on me at all places and rescue me from pain and the designs of my demons.401.

[Redoptics]

50 minutes ago, puzzled said:

I read from a sundar gutka app on my phone and chaupai sahib goes up to

ਖੜਗ ਕੇਤ ਮੈਂ ਸ਼ਰਨਿ ਤਿਹਾਰੀ ॥ ਆਪ ਹਾਥ ਦੈ ਲੇਹੁ ਉਬਾਰੀ ॥
Lord of the Almighty Sword, provides a shield for my protection. With Your Hands you have saved me.
 

ਸਰਬ ਠੌਰ ਮੋ ਹੋਹੁ ਸਹਾਈ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖ ਤੇ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਚਾਈ ॥੪੦੧॥
You bestow help on me at all places and rescue me from pain and the designs of my demons.401.

Just downloaded that app you must have your settings as the short version. Turn on extra long version.

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12 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Just downloaded that app you must have your settings as the short version. Turn on extra long version.

This one ?

 

[Redoptics]

2 minutes ago, puzzled said:

This one ?

 

Yup, go to the cog  top right hand corner for settings. Under Bani options you can change the length.

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2 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Yup

Yeah it's gone longer now 

There's parts before ek onkar shri waheguru ji ke fatheh pathshahi 10. As Well 

 

[Redoptics]

2 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Yeah it's gone longer now 

There's parts before ek onkar shri waheguru ji ke fatheh pathshahi 10. As Well 

 

I think this is the full version.

 

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7 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

I think this is the full version.

 

I'm not sure

I only know chaupai sahib and the first 16 pauris of japji sahib 

I got lazy  

Gnna try and learn the rest of japji sahib 

[Redoptics]

8 minutes ago, puzzled said:

I'm not sure

I only know chaupai sahib and the first 16 pauris of japji sahib 

I got lazy  

Gnna try and learn the rest of japji sahib 

Same I usually read via transliteration,  until I can sing it then learn the Gurmuki to understand the full meaning, as we can not seem to translate into English correctly.

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31 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Same I usually read via transliteration,  until I can sing it then learn the Gurmuki to understand the full meaning, as we can not seem to translate into English correctly.

I can read gurmuki and can read Punjabi newspapers and books but I'm not sure if I'm prounouncng the shabds properly. So I listen to videos and then repeat after while reading paath in gurmuki. 

So far I can properly read chaupai sahib and first 16 pauris of japji sahib 

I can read the rest As Well but I'm just cautious of pronouncing the shabds wrong. 

I really wanna learn jaap sahib and chandi di vaar too. 

There are santhiya videos online you can read along and pronounce the word properly.

I read a sakhi of where the singhs were reading bani in front of guru gobind singh ji and one of the singhs was pronouncing it wrong and guru ji said to the singh to be careful as he is bending guru jis limbs.