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On 4/29/2019 at 10:55 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

In most nations, no matter how despotic the rulers are, they will alway defend their country, even the elites. 

India is the only nation I know of that the elites will collaborate against their own for a foreign power. 

Other countries would execute their traitors for treason.

India on the other hand, traitors get rewarded.

What a rotten society it truly is.

Well the bhamans have never recognised  other Indians as their own. The bhamans have kept Indians as slaves for 1000s of years. If you wanted liberation then you would have to feed the bhamans and give them money and other goods as the bhamans were supposedly the closest thing on earth to good.  Bhamans used tell Indians that if you want to achieve liberation then you should chant bhramin. 

Bhaman even created Islamic sharia like laws to torture other Indians. Chopping hands, pouring boiling hot oil into ears, punishing wife you they like etc

Bhamans made the Vedas, Sanskrit and other religious stuff exclusive to themselves, that's when they got power and became heads of society. 

Bhamans spread caste based superstitions and made shudras believe that they are cursed and made other castes beleived that their sins are washes if they serve the bhaman. 

Bhamans created superstitions to spread fear in society and a society that is full of fear is very easy to invade and rule over.

Muslim invasions only strengthened the bhamans grip on society.

Politically India was ruled by Muslims and sharia while socially/culturally it was ruled by bhamans and the laws of manu

They broke the backbone of Indian society to the the point where Indians gave up and accepted they are slaves.

This is why India was so easy to invade because the inhabitants were all ready slaves! They were already a enslaved society under bhamans. They didn't even bother fighting back. 

Physically being a slave is one thing but accepting the fact that your a slave is mental slavery which is the worst. 

A lot of the admins and advisors in the mughals court were actually bhamans 

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1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Physically being a slave is one thing but accepting the fact that your a slave is mental slavery which is the worst.

Don't you think that was the mental state of most apnay pretty soon after the 'annexation'?

I'm still shocked that they helped Brits after Jallianwala Bagh in ww2 - only to be thanked by them with  partition....

How off the ball were our lot to let all this happen. This looks like a complete breakdown of ANY sort of adult political astuteness on apnay's part. 

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2 hours ago, puzzled said:

Well the bhamans have never recognised  other Indians as their own. The bhamans have kept Indians as slaves for 1000s of years. If you wanted liberation then you would have to feed the bhamans and give them money and other goods as the bhamans were supposedly the closest thing on earth to good.  Bhamans used tell Indians that if you want to achieve liberation then you should chant bhramin. 

Bhaman even created Islamic sharia like laws to torture other Indians. Chopping hands, pouring boiling hot oil into ears, punishing wife you they like etc

Bhamans made the Vedas, Sanskrit and other religious stuff exclusive to themselves, that's when they got power and became heads of society. 

Bhamans spread caste based superstitions and made shudras believe that they are cursed and made other castes beleived that their sins are washes if they serve the bhaman. 

Bhamans created superstitions to spread fear in society and a society that is full of fear is very easy to invade and rule over.

Muslim invasions only strengthened the bhamans grip on society.

Politically India was ruled by Muslims and sharia while socially/culturally it was ruled by bhamans and the laws of manu

They broke the backbone of Indian society to the the point where Indians gave up and accepted they are slaves.

This is why India was so easy to invade because the inhabitants were all ready slaves! They were already a enslaved society under bhamans. They didn't even bother fighting back. 

Physically being a slave is one thing but accepting the fact that your a slave is mental slavery which is the worst. 

A lot of the admins and advisors in the mughals court were actually bhamans 

Bhamans are indeed a parasitic bunch. 

However, no matter how cunning they are, they are a short sighted bunch. 

They have created a rod for their own back.

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13 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Don't you think that was the mental state of most apnay pretty soon after the 'annexation'?

I'm still shocked that they helped Brits after Jallianwala Bagh in ww2 - only to be thanked by them with  partition....

How off the ball were our lot to let all this happen. This looks like a complete breakdown of ANY sort of adult political astuteness on apnay's part. 

Well dont you think indians are still mentally slaves? 

We mock the Indian accent, anyone who can't speak english is seen as uneducated while anyone who speaks english is seen as better and educated. Western clothes are seen as modern while indian clothes are seen as old and associated with no education. 

India is one of the hottest countries on earth and yet you will still see indians wearing jeans, in cities wearing suits and ties, whats wrong with indian wear in india?    look at arab men, even the business men wear the traditional long white robe because that is appropriate clothing for the climate of arabia, not suits.   and then you have indian men wearing ties and suits in one of the hottest countries on earth. 

In urban india they now speak hinglish,  their language is half hindu and half english 

then there is obviously who whole skin colour thing

Anything that is indias is seen as old and uneducated while anything western is seen as modern and progressive

we still are slaves

someone who is a physical slave may be getting tortured but still believes he has hope, one who accepts that they are slaves and accepts the ways of their master is not only physically a slave but mentally one too 

The more western a Indian is the more progressive and modern he is considered by other indians

Indians will mock other indians who dont know english    

that says a lot about the indian slave mentality 

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11 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Well dont you think indians are still mentally slaves? 

We mock the Indian accent, anyone who can't speak english is seen as uneducated while anyone who speaks english is seen as better and educated. Western clothes are seen as modern while indian clothes are seen as old and associated with no education. 

India is one of the hottest countries on earth and yet you will still see indians wearing jeans, in cities wearing suits and ties, whats wrong with indian wear in india?    look at arab men, even the business men wear the traditional long white robe because that is appropriate clothing for the climate of arabia, not suits.   and then you have indian men wearing ties and suits in one of the hottest countries on earth. 

In urban india they now speak hinglish,  their language is half hindu and half english 

then there is obviously who whole skin colour thing

Anything that is indias is seen as old and uneducated while anything western is seen as modern and progressive

we still are slaves

someone who is a physical slave may be getting tortured but still believes he has hope, one who accepts that they are slaves and accepts the ways of their master is not only physically a slave but mentally one too 

The more western a Indian is the more progressive and modern he is considered by other indians

Indians will mock other indians who dont know english    

that says a lot about the indian slave mentality 

The thing that shocks me is that we still get apnay saying all this about Indians like apnay aren't and haven't been doing exactly the same. Let's keep it real. 

I think our lot are some of THE worse when it comes to that mental slavery you talk about. And I'm sure you know that hordes of apnay/apneean would crawl up a gora's gandh and have contempt for most of his own Sikh brothers/sisters.

I mean look at how many apnay fought for blighty when they had other apnay actively trying to free Panjab like the Ghaddarites. 

I seriously hope apnay don't try and jump on some high horse about Hindus or bahmunhs, and blind themselves to the reality of our own lot. Because if they do, WE are the modern day Hindus. At least them cow-worshippers have built up their country again - our lot are still struggle to mentally break out of some medieval feudal-economy mindset by the looks of it. 

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14 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Well dont you think indians are still mentally slaves? 

We mock the Indian accent, anyone who can't speak english is seen as uneducated while anyone who speaks english is seen as better and educated. Western clothes are seen as modern while indian clothes are seen as old and associated with no education. 

India is one of the hottest countries on earth and yet you will still see indians wearing jeans, in cities wearing suits and ties, whats wrong with indian wear in india?    look at arab men, even the business men wear the traditional long white robe because that is appropriate clothing for the climate of arabia, not suits.   and then you have indian men wearing ties and suits in one of the hottest countries on earth. 

In urban india they now speak hinglish,  their language is half hindu and half english 

then there is obviously who whole skin colour thing

Anything that is indias is seen as old and uneducated while anything western is seen as modern and progressive

we still are slaves

someone who is a physical slave may be getting tortured but still believes he has hope, one who accepts that they are slaves and accepts the ways of their master is not only physically a slave but mentally one too 

The more western a Indian is the more progressive and modern he is considered by other indians

Indians will mock other indians who dont know english    

that says a lot about the indian slave mentality 

Great points, bro. 

Indians have a 'monkey-see, monkey-do' mentality to various degrees and manifestations across society.

The urban middle and upper classes may consider themselves sophisticated and global in outlook, but if you analyse Indian culture in terms of its entertainment industries in the past 20 years (a country's entertainment output is always an accurate indication of where its "head" is at currently), they've gradually rejected various British colonial markers -- because like all former colonies, the constant reminder of being subservient to a foreign ruling power is not conducive to a healthy national identity and pride -- and graduated to a strange North American brand of global modernism almost as a FU to their previous British masters. This is reflected in the frankly cringeworthy cod-American speech inflection hat most educated upper (and some aspirational middle) class Indians have adopted as their default style of speaking English.

What they fail to realise by this embarrassing form of cultural flattery is they've discarded one colonial form of influence for another, only this time it's the American influence that's somehow seen as acceptable because it wasn't enforced via physical subjugation, and also due to the laughable desire to be seen as a possible equal or at least an upcoming ally to a superpower such as the United States. 

It may be a somewhat tenuous example of the Indian mentality, but it speaks volumes as to the innate insecurity and lack of scruples whereby they unwittingly discard their own perfectly adequate identity for one that is alien to their being. THAT'S why they'll never be respected, admired, and treated as equals, no matter how hard they wish to dine out at the top table. It's a country of sellouts in most senses of the word, and their history has proven that to be true time and time again.

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

The thing that shocks me is that we still get apnay saying all this about Indians like apnay aren't and haven't been doing exactly the same. Let's keep it real. 

I think our lot are some of THE worse when it comes to that mental slavery you talk about. And I'm sure you know that hordes of apnay/apneean would crawl up a gora's gandh and have contempt for most of his own Sikh brothers/sisters.

I mean look at how many apnay fought for blighty when they had other apnay actively trying to free Panjab like the Ghaddarites. 

I seriously hope apnay don't try and jump on some high horse about Hindus or bahmunhs, and blind themselves to the reality of our own lot. Because if they do, WE are the modern day Hindus. At least them cow-worshippers have built up their country again - our lot are still struggle to mentally break out of some medieval feudal-economy mindset by the looks of it. 

when i said indians i meant punjabis too 

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