Indra and Gangu

[puzzled]

Iv heard this before that Indra was descendant of Gangu bhaman. The Singh in the video names all the descendants of Gangu bhaman to Indra. 

I don't know how true this is because I'm pretty sure Gangu was a Punjabi bhaman while Indra and Nehru were Kashmiri pandits/Bhamans. Unless Gangu was a Kashmiri who was residing in Punjab. 

 

[jkvlondon]

6 hours ago, puzzled said:

Iv heard this before that Indra was descendant of Gangu bhaman. The Singh in the video names all the descendants of Gangu bhaman to Indra. 

I don't know how true this is because I'm pretty sure Gangu was a Punjabi bhaman while Indra and Nehru were Kashmiri pandits/Bhamans. Unless Gangu was a Kashmiri who was residing in Punjab. 

 

singh's did  research on ancestors because we know which janam asthaan Gangu came from (village pandits records have all ancestors descendents) plus the fact he was brought into household on insistence of kashmiri brahmin who came to do farriaad to Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji .His surname was Kaul the family name changed after his widow was given jagir by Emperor for services rendered near nair so their name was changed to Nehru to hide their idenity from sikhs and their wish wishers.

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15 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

singh's did  research on ancestors because we know which janam asthaan Gangu came from (village pandits records have all ancestors descendents) plus the fact he was brought into household on insistence of kashmiri brahmin who came to do farriaad to Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji .His surname was Kaul the family name changed after his widow was given jagir by Emperor for services rendered near nair so their name was changed to Nehru to hide their idenity from sikhs and their wish wishers.

Ohh ok  I didn't know that 

[Guest]

its a theory. Nehru did write in his memoirs the following lines , 

 

We were Kashmiris. Over two hundred years ago, early in the eighteenth century, our ancestor came down from that mountain valley to seek fame and fortune in the rich plains below. Those were the days of the decline of the Mughal Empire after the death of Aurungzeb, and Farrukhsiyar was the Mughal Emperor. Raj Kaul was the name of that ancestor of ours and he had gained eminence as a Sanskrit and Persian scholar in Kashmir. He attracted the notice of Farrukhsiyar during the latter's visit to Kashmir, and, probably at the Emperor's instance, the family migrated to Delhi, the imperial capital, about the year 1716. A jagir with a house situated on the banks of a canal had been granted to Raj Kaul, and, from the fact of this residence, 'Nehru' (from Nahar, a canal) came to be attached to his name. Kaul had been the family name; this changed to Kaul-Nehru; and, in later years, Kaul dropped out and we became simply Nehrus.

Raj Kaul may have been a son of Gangu , I repeat 'may have been' . Buts its pure conjecture . 

[jkvlondon]

23 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

its a theory. Nehru did write in his memoirs the following lines , 

 

We were Kashmiris. Over two hundred years ago, early in the eighteenth century, our ancestor came down from that mountain valley to seek fame and fortune in the rich plains below. Those were the days of the decline of the Mughal Empire after the death of Aurungzeb, and Farrukhsiyar was the Mughal Emperor. Raj Kaul was the name of that ancestor of ours and he had gained eminence as a Sanskrit and Persian scholar in Kashmir. He attracted the notice of Farrukhsiyar during the latter's visit to Kashmir, and, probably at the Emperor's instance, the family migrated to Delhi, the imperial capital, about the year 1716. A jagir with a house situated on the banks of a canal had been granted to Raj Kaul, and, from the fact of this residence, 'Nehru' (from Nahar, a canal) came to be attached to his name. Kaul had been the family name; this changed to Kaul-Nehru; and, in later years, Kaul dropped out and we became simply Nehrus.

Raj Kaul may have been a son of Gangu , I repeat 'may have been' . Buts its pure conjecture . 

the account i read was the widow dragged her offspring to Delhi to complain that her husband had been killed for doing work of mughals and handing over Guru Gobind Singh's family , that her son was not able to secure a place either in Kashmir or punjab as the father's actions tainted the family's fortunes . She demanded a job for the son and jagir for the family , the hukamat agreed and he was hired by officials and the land was gifted to the family.

It is not conjecture but matter of genelogical record kept by the Brahmins themselves. They need to add Nehru's barsteward Amitabh Bachan to the record

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

the account i read was the widow dragged her offspring to Delhi to complain that her husband had been killed for doing work of mughals and handing over Guru Gobind Singh's family , that her son was not able to secure a place either in Kashmir or punjab as the father's actions tainted the family's fortunes . She demanded a job for the son and jagir for the family , the hukamat agreed and he was hired by officials and the land was gifted to the family.

 It is not conjecture but matter of genelogical record kept by the Brahmins themselves. They need to add Nehru's barsteward Amitabh Bachan to the record

I have also heard so called Mahatma Gandhi was gangu in past life and is enjoying his pics on currency today and other titles and reputation simply because he did sewa to Guru maharaj in past life before he went corrupt.

but they're bound to have their account balance reduced. then the khalsa raj I think . already modi has eaten up into congress pretty much 

[SikhSeeker]

On 6/4/2019 at 6:19 PM, AjeetSingh2019 said:

I have also heard so called Mahatma Gandhi was gangu in past life and is enjoying his pics on currency today and other titles and reputation simply because he did sewa to Guru maharaj in past life before he went corrupt.

but they're bound to have their account balance reduced. then the khalsa raj I think . already modi has eaten up into congress pretty much 

This is really intriguing was he really the gangu in his past life? Anyone got any  more info on that