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Just saw the video of the Delhi coppers beating up the Father and son.

Though I absolutely condemn what the police did as it was despicable. 

The father did not help matters by running back at about 5 coppers especially with his son being in tow where his young teenage son got a kicking. (His son was trying to stop his father).

I will try to link the video, but I think we try to act like the warriors of old but even they would know when to fight back and when to retreat. 

I see this in a few videos where Urban Sikhs in metro areas do bone headed things like this particularly with the police.

There was another video where this very tall Singh choke slammed a copper before he scarpered off on his moped.

It's always this:

"Meh Singh ya, meh Singh yeh" with this puffy chest.

Even a rural pendu Sikh in Punjab is not that dumb to do things like this. 

You can't win as a Sikh in a Hindu majority area where the police is going to be against you. 

If the guy was beaten up by himself is one thing bit the fact that his son got beaten as well is downright irresponsible. 

We have to be smarter than that.

@AjeetSingh2019 you are an Urban Metro Sikh, please explain

 

 

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Just saw the video yesterday on WhatsApp. Was shocked but not surprised considering it's Delhi. I don't live there fortunately. Because it's a region of backward illiterate migrants from haryana, Bihar, UP , basically the wildest of states . BTW, Sikh MLAs of Delhi did create a loud opposition and apparently the 3 men responsible were suspended and further inquiry into the matter set in. 

In a hindsight, I felt what if the Sikh guy was at fault ?? What if we're trying to give into our passions and looking it at from biased communal views. But you also can't deny the fact that the treatment meted out to him was in no way professional and btw, the father and kid were both beaten up in police custody too, the kid being a minor. YES THE COPS SHOULD BE FIRED. 

Many , not surprisingly, within the Sikh community are seeing this incident as part of larger state sponsored oppression against sikhs.

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9 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Just saw the video of the Delhi coppers beating up the Father and son.

Though I absolutely condemn what the police did as it was despicable. 

The father did not help matters by running back at about 5 coppers especially with his son being in tow where his young teenage son got a kicking. (His son was trying to stop his father).

I will try to link the video, but I think we try to act like the warriors of old but even they would know when to fight back and when to retreat. 

I see this in a few videos where Urban Sikhs in metro areas do bone headed things like this particularly with the police.

There was another video where this very tall Singh choke slammed a copper before he scarpered off on his moped.

It's always this:

"Meh Singh ya, meh Singh yeh" with this puffy chest.

Even a rural pendu Sikh in Punjab is not that dumb to do things like this. 

You can't win as a Sikh in a Hindu majority area where the police is going to be against you. 

If the guy was beaten up by himself is one thing bit the fact that his son got beaten as well is downright irresponsible. 

We have to be smarter than that.

@AjeetSingh2019 you are an Urban Metro Sikh, please explain

 

 

I agree with you in principle, we do tend to have a hot-headed mentality but I think he would have been assaulted by the police, either way, it's just the mentality of the police in India.

When a basic police officer has no chance of promotion and is paid peanuts he's going to do everything he can to top up his salary, unfortunately, in India, it's done by extorting money from the average joe on the street, when the average joe disagrees then this kind of thing happens (all too often), either way, it's police brutality.

 

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44 minutes ago, kcmidlands said:

I agree with you in principle, we do tend to have a hot-headed mentality but I think he would have been assaulted by the police, either way, it's just the mentality of the police in India.

When a basic police officer has no chance of promotion and is paid peanuts he's going to do everything he can to top up his salary, unfortunately, in India, it's done by extorting money from the average joe on the street, when the average joe disagrees then this kind of thing happens (all too often), either way, it's police brutality.

 

Yes that is the mentality of the police, so why fall into that trap?

In the video, there was a 20-30 second gap before the police came out of the station.

If the guy used his brain, he could have used those 20-30 seconds and made a getaway.  They were on foot, he had an auto-rickshaw. 

He had an altercation in front of a police station. What did he think would happen?

The problem with sections of our quam is that they have an entitlement complex based on past glories.

Your great great grandfather was the warrior not you.

Being a Sikh is not going to give you an exemption from a kicking, neither is it going to give you super human strength.

These films like Singh is King and Sunny Deol films like Ghaddar and Border don't help either.

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The problem with sections of our quam is that they have an entitlement complex based on past glories.

Your great great grandfather was the warrior not you.

This is true. Maybe not even his great great grandfather . Not everyone joined Khalsa army. Not everyone had the resolve of historical martyrs we remember. 

We really don't work on ourselves. And expect godness 

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12 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Just saw the video of the Delhi coppers beating up the Father and son.

Though I absolutely condemn what the police did as it was despicable. 

The father did not help matters by running back at about 5 coppers especially with his son being in tow where his young teenage son got a kicking. (His son was trying to stop his father).

I will try to link the video, but I think we try to act like the warriors of old but even they would know when to fight back and when to retreat. 

I see this in a few videos where Urban Sikhs in metro areas do bone headed things like this particularly with the police.

There was another video where this very tall Singh choke slammed a copper before he scarpered off on his moped.

It's always this:

"Meh Singh ya, meh Singh yeh" with this puffy chest.

Even a rural pendu Sikh in Punjab is not that dumb to do things like this. 

You can't win as a Sikh in a Hindu majority area where the police is going to be against you. 

If the guy was beaten up by himself is one thing bit the fact that his son got beaten as well is downright irresponsible. 

We have to be smarter than that.

@AjeetSingh2019 you are an Urban Metro Sikh, please explain

 

 

The ASI  tried to deman bribe of 500 rupees from the driver, when this kiritigursikh refused the Ahole got his mates to back him by firstly threatening the fifteen old son like this

 

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The Sikh Sangat of Delhi have handled the situation very sensibly. They have prevented serious charges to be laid against the Sikh who used his kirpan to inflict injuries on a cop. They have also got the Police not to lay charges on number of hot headed Sikh youth who assaulted cops after the incident and damaged public property. The greatest success they have achieved is to get a  FIR lodged against the errant cops who beat the Sikh and his son. 

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The raw footage shot by hindus from the rooftops opposite the police station capture after the initial threats , obviously the two sikhs try to go away from the situation then the gunda police follow them to beat them , kicking and stamping to head occured many times . Tthe son was also hit and seperated .

 

Interview of the driver  Sort of:

The Dehli police are Not controlled by delhi administration i.e. kejriwal but the Home minister  yet kejriwal pointedly turned up to talk to the auto driver

 

 

 

The scenes outside the thane later on

 

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2 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

The Sikh Sangat of Delhi have handled the situation very sensibly. They have prevented serious charges to be laid against the Sikh who used his kirpan to inflict injuries on a cop. They have also got the Police not to lay charges on number of hot headed Sikh youth who assaulted cops after the incident and damaged public property. The greatest success they have achieved is to get a  FIR lodged against the errant cops who beat the Sikh and his son. 

He did not hit anyone with the kirpan , so no injuries , just showed them so they would back off ..

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25 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

The Sikh Sangat of Delhi have handled the situation very sensibly. They have prevented serious charges to be laid against the Sikh who used his kirpan to inflict injuries on a cop. They have also got the Police not to lay charges on number of hot headed Sikh youth who assaulted cops after the incident and damaged public property. The greatest success they have achieved is to get a  FIR lodged against the errant cops who beat the Sikh and his son. 

What will be achieved with the FIR and what would be the outcome? 

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1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

This is true. Maybe not even his great great grandfather . Not everyone joined Khalsa army. Not everyone had the resolve of historical martyrs we remember. 

We really don't work on ourselves. And expect godness 

As a Mumbai Sikh, what is the situation there in comparison with a Delhi Sikh?

Does the local demographic make up have an impact? 

Eg more Tamil,  Marathi and Gujerati compared to Haryanvi,  Bhaiya Bihari 

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25 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

He did not hit anyone with the kirpan , so no injuries , just showed them so they would back off ..

That is like a red rag to a bull for these goons. 

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1 minute ago, Ranjeet01 said:

That is like a red rag to a bull for these goons. 

They had no other options given that they were forced out of the car at gunpoint , threatened etc . If he had not shown any resistance it could have gone unnoticed until he was shot or his son beaten . We already heard RSS saying they have no problems on repeating nov'84 again to remind sikhs their position .

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5 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

That is like a red rag to a bull for these goons. 

What is your proposal thenhand over cash to these thieves or take a beating unchallenged any way ?

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