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Nishan Sahib, when did we start using the Khanda


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Just now, jkvlondon said:

My guess is after independence because pictures of morchey just prior have purataan jhanda. Plus it seems based on the ratrey khanda

Nah, the new Khanda symbol was being used by WW1. I saw an old leaflet from some high ranking military gora with it on there. Shame I can't find that image anymore. It's weird because by the time I was growing up, knowledge of the original standard had practically disappeared from the SIkh masses. 

Here is some more evidence of the original standard. I've not seen some of these images before: 

 

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

Isn't the moon an emblem of the babylonian gods that illuminati follow ? I.e. Baal because the way the kirpans go around the khanda look like the bulls horns around the moon...or am I imagining things?

The way it looks to me is that the modern Khanda symbol does have precedents or links to older Sikhi concepts: 

The khanda is obvious - from Bhai Gurdas's time at least we have the vaalaun nikkhi khandhan tau tikkhi  concept. Sikhi is sharper than the edge of a khanda.

The two kirpaans representing the concept of miri and piri have an early provence too (only found this out a few years ago) - in Kavi Kankan's Das Gurkatha we have:

ਪੀਰਨ ਤੇ ਜਿਨ ਪੀਰੀ ਹਰੀ ਲੀਨੀ ਗੁਰਾਈ।

ਸ਼ਾਹਨਿ ਸੋਂ ਪਤਿਸਾਹੀ ਹਰੀ ਅਰੁ ਮੀਰਨ ਕੀ ਜਿਨ ਮੀਰੀ ਗਵਾਈ।

Finally the chakhar or chakhram is traditionally linked with Vishnu, but according to Kahn Singh Nabha, it was one of the Panj Hathiar worn by dasmesh pita everyday (and to note, it was the one shaster/ashter that was different to the panj hathiaar worn by regular Khalsa members). 

 

That all being said, there was no reason to change the original standard, and doing so seems like a typical ploy of brits (which I've seen them do a number of times recently in places they've attacked and tried to colonise like Iraq).

What is significant (in my opinion) is what was excluded from the original nishaan. And that is the dhaal or shield. Obviously this represents a protective barrier for the panth, a defensive shield (in inclusion to offensive weapons). So this important concept has been missing. And it explains a lot in my opinion. That's maybe why goray could turn lots of apnay into their colonial attack dogs - whilst people totally forgot about protective factors - which led to partition and the loss of large swathes of Sikh zameen. 

Throw that in.

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