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What's people's opinion on the author of the Dasam Granth? I read the english translations of the charitropakhyan and I've been immensely distrurbed. The stories are totally pornographic in detail. I'm really struggling to believe that Guru Gobind Singh would have the time, energy and need to translate such pornographic material. 

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2 minutes ago, GavinSingh said:

What's people's opinion on the author of the Dasam Granth? I read the english translations of the charitropakhyan and I've been immensely distrurbed. The stories are totally pornographic in detail. I'm really struggling to believe that Guru Gobind Singh would have the time, energy and need to translate such pornographic material. 

First you triggered the Guru maneyo Granth crowd on this website and now you are going after Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji.   Which missionary branch do you belong too?  

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1 hour ago, Akalifauj said:

First you triggered the Guru maneyo Granth crowd on this website and now you are going after Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji.   Which missionary branch do you belong too?  

I'm doing exactly what every Sikh should do - learn, discuss and understand.  

I suggest less triggering would be beneficial to everyone. 

Do you have an opinion on the Dasam Granth or on Guru Maneyo Granth Gurdwara?  - would love to hear your opinion. 

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57 minutes ago, GavinSingh said:

I'm doing exactly what every Sikh should do - learn, discuss and understand.  

I suggest less triggering would be beneficial to everyone. 

Do you have an opinion on the Dasam Granth or on Guru Maneyo Granth Gurdwara?  - would love to hear your opinion. 

I like your posts Veer Ji.

The way you phrased that is obviously contoversial though. You know it was.

I'll read these sections and get back to you. 

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12 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I like your posts Veer Ji.

The way you phrased that is obviously contoversial though. You know it was.

I'll read these sections and get back to you. 

Thanks - well noticed . Yes indeed it was meant to be controversial but once you've read that part you will realise the controversy. 

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31 minutes ago, GavinSingh said:

Here have a read of Chritar 3 - let me know what you think? 

 

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Which book is this because it could be any author's work , besides you have not provided the supposedly translated gurbani text

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42 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Which book is this because it could be any author's work , besides you have not provided the supposedly translated gurbani text

http://www.globalsikhstudies.net/pdf/chritro pakhyaan (vol 1) complete book.pdf

Its a real eye opener. Yes i don't have the original translation but everyone always says you can't read this section of the Dasam Granth. 

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Nihangs (who remain celibate) read  Charitropakhyan.

For me this section (one third of Sri Dasam Granth) is the play of Maya which ends with Benti Chaupai.

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2 hours ago, Dsinghdp said:

Nihangs (who remain celibate) read  Charitropakhyan.

For me this section (one third of Sri Dasam Granth) is the play of Maya which ends with Benti Chaupai.

So do you believe/ agree with this section and that the author is Guru Gobind Singh Ji 

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You read translation but did u read actual style of Baani? So a normal manukh had that kinda brain to write in that style?

Tenth Guru Ji IS the author and... Dasam Granth is meant for the Khalsa. It's like, reading Maya without touching Maya... Or seeing fire, and touch fire? That'll b foolish! So, can you read without Maya entering your mind? If yes thas a pure Khalsa right there. Maharaaj explains lacchan of Maya and why we must keep away.

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Charitropakhyan are 100% true, look around and see what's happening in society.

You hear about women in Punjab murdering their husbands and running of with their lovers all the time    it's in the news. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/crime/story/wife-kills-husband-poison-affair-punjab-1572436-2019-07-23

A few years ago a British punjabi woman murdered her husband because he became a singh. She was was sleeping with her husbands friend, the so called friend helped her murder the singh. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Singh1989 said:

You read translation but did u read actual style of Baani? So a normal manukh had that kinda brain to write in that style?

Tenth Guru Ji IS the author and... Dasam Granth is meant for the Khalsa. It's like, reading Maya without touching Maya... Or seeing fire, and touch fire? That'll b foolish! So, can you read without Maya entering your mind? If yes thas a pure Khalsa right there. Maharaaj explains lacchan of Maya and why we must keep away.

ok so its like a director making a pornographic film as a test for people to see if they get turned on by the film. Do you think it might be best that he probably don't try and make it in the first place, that way he's not wasting his time, he's not thinking of kaam, or getting people to do kaam and then editing kaam, that's a lot of Kaam. Your understanding is flawed. I think It's HUGELY disrespectful to think our Dasmesh Pitha, after fighting numerous battles, gives up his whole family, starts a panth, recites the bani to Bhai Mani Singh, then finds the time to write a granth which 1/3 compromises of how women are wicked, evil, only think of sex and are always deceiving men. Did he think this of his own mother or wife? I really don't think so.  You obviously haven't read the Guru Granth Sahib. Maybe you agree with the NKJ Kaam test ? 

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26 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Charitropakhyan are 100% true, look around and see what's happening in society.

You hear about women in Punjab murdering their husbands and running of with their lovers all the time    it's in the news. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/crime/story/wife-kills-husband-poison-affair-punjab-1572436-2019-07-23

A few years ago a British punjabi woman murdered her husband because he became a singh. She was was sleeping with her husbands friend, the so called friend helped her murder the singh. 

 

 

So...... women are evil, dangerous, murderers, sexual deviants and prostitutes?, yet statistically it's much more likely that men will commit adultery than women.  I think you need to see Women in a different light, maybe through how Gurbani describes them. 

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33 minutes ago, GavinSingh said:

So...... women are evil, dangerous, murderers, sexual deviants and prostitutes?, yet statistically it's much more likely that men will commit adultery than women.  I think you need to see Women in a different light, maybe through how Gurbani describes them. 

Charitropakhyan is full of lusty, murderous, adulterous evil men as well.  The men in charitropakhyan are just as worse as the women. 

News is full of men raping, even raping their daughters and corpses 

Wife sharing is becoming a common thing, they even do it in india. On daily mail the other day i read how a man in India put a bet on his own wife and lost the bet and then let the winners rape his wife.  

Like I said  just take a good look around you and see what's happening in society (men/women), charitropakhyan are 100% true 

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