Maharani Jind Kaur's Gutka in British Library

[jkvlondon]

14 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yep, and we've got over a crucial period now, where those attempts to subvert have been successfully thwarted.

you underestimate the patience and myriad ways they are still subverting Gurbani

[Guest]

4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Oh okay bro. Lol. 

Can someone please tell me why gurbani of that pothi and our modern pothi don't match EXACTLY

I am talking abt the sukhmani sahib folio attached by op

[dallysingh101]

22 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

you underestimate the patience and myriad ways they are still subverting Gurbani

Will there (or has there) ever only been one interpretation? It doesn't look like that from what I gather from precolonial Sikh literature. 

I think the greater danger is how the SGPC and various universities in Panjab and abroad are rewriting Sikh history along western influenced racialised/casteist lines. It's the unique Sikh 'social vision' that is under attack the most. This strikes deeply at cohesion which is always difficult given Panjabi nature anyway. 

If we are talking about bhagti marg or spiritual side of Sikhi through naam simran and paat. It's our own personal journey into that that expresses itself to us. If people are excessively relying on other people to hold their hands in this (various gianis and babas they subjugate themselves to) - are they even getting it? And it looks like for most people the 'sangat' is more of a social/community thing than anything else? 

Yes, people have always tried to subvert this thing (and not only 'Hindus' but especially the british), but I think it is the uninformed and gullible pendu masses that keep falling for this. They don't really like thinking for themselves in any case - and don't like reading - so that is inevitable. They bring it upon themselves with their cultural norms. Farmers make me laugh - they cry out about the surreptitious 'bahmunization' of Sikhi, whilst themselves sitting in some pseudo-Sikh, protestant anglicised colonial product  'religion' themselves. The irony.....

[dallysingh101]

21 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Can someone please tell me why gurbani of that pothi and our modern pothi don't match EXACTLY

I am talking abt the sukhmani sahib folio attached by op

Why don't you give examples of this.

[Guest]

16 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Why don't you give examples of this.

For heaven's sake I already mentioned you just check the folio of sukhmani sahib attached in this thread itself

Check the first salok . Compare that with modern one