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If your great grandfathers is from Punjab they used opium. Each and every household in Punjab till early 1900s had opium in their kitchen. Dont believe me just call the oldest person alive in your fam

On Hola, Singhs get tyar bar tyar with shastars and show their shatarvidya skills to the Guru. Singhs used to hv Shaheedi degh on Hola.  So yes Shaheedi degh helps in shastarvidya. ਰਿਤੁ

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Here's a translation of Ganda Singh's foreward to his edition of Gursobha I did years ago. You might find it interesting in terms of how Gursobha was discovered. 

http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/14794-the-making-of-sikh-history-–-literally-a-translation-of-ganda-singhs-foreward-to-sainapatis-sri-gursobha/

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http://sikhcybermuseum.com/history/CharacterSeiks.htm

food of the Sieks is of the coarsest kind, and such as the poorest people in Hindustan use from necessity. Bread baked in ashes, and soaked in a mash made of different sorts of pulse, is the best dish, and such as they never indulge in but when at full leisure; otherwise vetches and tares, hastily parched, is all they care for. They abhor smoking tobacco, for what reasons I cannot discover, but intoxicate themselves freely with spirits of their own country manufacture: a cup of the last they never fail taking after a fatigue at night. Their dress is extremely scanty; a pair of long blue drawers,2

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http://sikhcybermuseum.com/history/MemorandumGrifiths.htm

Seiks receive Proselytes of almost every Cast, a point in which they: differ most materially from the Hindoos. To initiate Mahommedans into their mysteries, the prepare a Dish of Hog's legs, which the Converts are obliged to partake of previous to admission. They have forbid absolutely the use of the Hookah, but they are as liberal in the use of Bang, and Ophiam, as their Neighbours. They are not prohibited the use of Animal food of any kind, excepting Beef, which they are rigidly scrupulous in abstaining from. They never shave either Head or Beard; They sometimes wear yellow, but the prevailing Colour of their Cloths is deep blue; They make their Turbans capaciously large, over which they frequently wear a piece of pliable Iron Chain or Network.

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Seiks are remarkably fond of the flesh of the jungle Hog, which they kill in chance, this food is allowable by their law. They likewise eat of mutton and fish, but these being deemed unlawful, the Bramins will not partake, leaving those who chuse to transgress their institutes to answer for themselves. In the city or in the field the Seiks never smoke tobacco; they are not however averse to drinking spirituous liquors, in which they sometimes indulge to an immoderate excess; and they likewise freely take opium, Bang5 and other intoxicating drugs. In their convivial parties each man is compelled to drink out of his own vessel.

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I wouldn't advise anyone to use the above information as justification for taking opiates btw folks!

 

This is a big problem these days, and not only with opium based illegal drugs like heroin, but also legal opiate based pharmaceuticals - which doctors seem to by giving out like candy causing lots of addiction issues. 

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/opiate-addiction/#gref

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4 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Dear dallysingh

Can u plz provide reference from prem sumarag about sukha or afeem?

Is there any other source that u r aware of?

I wouldn't worry about others (of which there are plenty):

 

The Gursobha reference is the most significant because it is purportedly a document from a darbari kavi of dasmesh pita's. If the work is what it claims, it's a source contemporary to dasmesh pita. I notice the use of the afeem seems to be associated with a long horseback journey (southwards) being made by Singhs?

This might give us a clue as to the context of the usage? 

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5 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I wouldn't worry about others (of which there are plenty):

 

The Gursobha reference is the most significant because it is purportedly a document from a darbari kavi of dasmesh pita's. If the work is what it claims, it's a source contemporary to dasmesh pita. I notice the use of the afeem seems to be associated with a long horseback journey (southwards) being made by Singhs?

This might give us a clue as to the context of the usage? 

Plz share some sources.its a request

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8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I wouldn't worry about others (of which there are plenty):

 

The Gursobha reference is the most significant because it is purportedly a document from a darbari kavi of dasmesh pita's. If the work is what it claims, it's a source contemporary to dasmesh pita. I notice the use of the afeem seems to be associated with a long horseback journey (southwards) being made by Singhs?

This might give us a clue as to the context of the usage? 

Nihangs call opium chattardhara. It's used for war.

Kavi Santokh Singh mentions Dasmesh pita giving opium to bachitar Singh before attacking elephant. 

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2 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Nihangs call opium chattardhara. It's used for war.

Kavi Santokh Singh mentions Dasmesh pita giving opium to bachitar Singh before attacking elephant. 

It would be nice if you found the original text for that. 

Macauliffe sort of slated Kavi Santokh SIngh because of his alleged use of bhang:

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