Singhs taking opium in Gur sobha granth

[shastarSingh]

5 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I wouldn't worry about others (of which there are plenty):

 

The Gursobha reference is the most significant because it is purportedly a document from a darbari kavi of dasmesh pita's. If the work is what it claims, it's a source contemporary to dasmesh pita. I notice the use of the afeem seems to be associated with a long horseback journey (southwards) being made by Singhs?

This might give us a clue as to the context of the usage? 

Plz share some sources.its a request

[shastarSingh]

8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I wouldn't worry about others (of which there are plenty):

 

The Gursobha reference is the most significant because it is purportedly a document from a darbari kavi of dasmesh pita's. If the work is what it claims, it's a source contemporary to dasmesh pita. I notice the use of the afeem seems to be associated with a long horseback journey (southwards) being made by Singhs?

This might give us a clue as to the context of the usage? 

Nihangs call opium chattardhara. It's used for war.

Kavi Santokh Singh mentions Dasmesh pita giving opium to bachitar Singh before attacking elephant. 

[dallysingh101]

5 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Plz share some sources.its a request

Dude, you're posting most of them. 

I hope you know that some silly apnay will use this as justification for recreational drug use brother. 

[shastarSingh]

1 minute ago, dallysingh101 said:

Dude, you're posting most of them. 

I hope you know that some silly apnay will use this as justification for recreational drug use brother. 

But we can't hide our historical granths

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Nihangs call opium chattardhara. It's used for war.

Kavi Santokh Singh mentions Dasmesh pita giving opium to bachitar Singh before attacking elephant. 

It would be nice if you found the original text for that. 

Macauliffe sort of slated Kavi Santokh SIngh because of his alleged use of bhang:

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

But we can't hide our historical granths

I fully agree, but we have to warn readers about potential abuse. It's not like we don't have issues with 'chitta' being thrown over the border back home. 

And I'd put Sikh texts above european ones, who may be exaggerating a bit, or only putting a focus on fighters (due to the threat to themselves). 

[shastarSingh]

7 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

It would be nice if you found the original text for that. 

Macauliffe sort of slated Kavi Santokh SIngh because of his alleged use of bhang:

There is still puratan afeem di dabbi at hazur Sahib.its of gold with moti covering.according to hazuri Singhs dabbi belongs to Dasmesh pita

[dallysingh101]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

There is still puratan afeem di dabbi at hazur Sahib.its of gold with moti covering.

Have you been there and seen it? 

[dallysingh101]

 

[shastarSingh]

1 minute ago, dallysingh101 said:

Have you been there and seen it? 

I spend time with dal panth.they r amazing people.

Dalpanth has seen it. It's no secret.