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This quote probably was the most used quote on social media last year and the year before, mainly by females (its true)     and its not even guru nanak dev jis words.    

 

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Subtext: I've slept with men outside of my faith and race. You're a bigot for judging me. Here's a fake meme that I'll try to gaslight people into believing is fact in order to assuage that little voice in my head telling me I did wrong. 

😅😂

That's the inner mental landscape of the average Sikh female under the age of 25. It's not too complex. 

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Subtext: I've slept with men outside of my faith and race. You're a bigot for judging me. Here's a fake meme that I'll try to gaslight people into believing is fact in order to assuage that little voice in my head telling me I did wrong. 

😅😂

That's the inner mental landscape of the average Sikh female under the age of 25. It's not too complex. 

The term when someone tries to rationalise something they know was wrong is called "hamstering"

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8 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I've slept with men outside of my faith and race. You're a bigot for judging me

What? Really?

Seriously, though, I have to constantly remind myself to figure out whether what you're saying pertains to you specifically, or it's a point that you're making, lol.

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29 minutes ago, BhForce said:

What? Really?

Seriously, though, I have to constantly remind myself to figure out whether what you're saying pertains to you specifically, or it's a point that you're making, lol.

I'm playing the part of the female in question. 😀

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they also love the one about how kings are born from women.  i really hope they dont start saying that guru nanak dev ji was a feminist! 

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13 minutes ago, puzzled said:

they also love the one about how kings are born from women.  i really hope they dont start saying that guru nanak dev ji was a feminist! 

That's easy to answer. 

Kings are born from women because women can't be kings 

Also Guruji said not to treat women badly. But did not say they were equal.

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2 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

That's easy to answer. 

Kings are born from women because women can't be kings 

Also Guruji said not to treat women badly. But did not say they were equal.

yes he did in the form of Guru Amar Das he called them parchaariks, freed them from shackles of hindu and muslim spiritual rules they could exercise their love for Akal Purakh and achieve mukhti, they did not have to serve their husbands as god substitutes.

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On 1/21/2020 at 10:06 PM, puzzled said:

This quote probably was the most used quote on social media last year and the year before, mainly by females (its true)     and its not even guru nanak dev jis words.    

 

Everyone should know this by now. This video has been out for so long but yet people don’t know.

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On 1/23/2020 at 3:29 PM, jkvlondon said:

yes he did in the form of Guru Amar Das he called them parchaariks, freed them from shackles of hindu and muslim spiritual rules they could exercise their love for Akal Purakh and achieve mukhti, they did not have to serve their husbands as god substitutes.

What about Mai Seva of Mai Seva Bazaar?

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punjabi atheists pretending to be Sikh are soooooooooooo embarrassing and low IQ they are cringe worthy.

Just cos they may come from a Sikh family does not make them a Sikh its not a nationality, race or ethnicity its a religion a way of life. If these morons who think Guru Ji was some feminist, pro LGBT, pro-islam fascism, anything goes kinda hedonistic guy then they are sadly mistaken. Guru Nanak Ji were very tolerant and open minded and welcoming to all groups of humanity but they had their red lines and what they defined a as gurmat correct and incorrect manmat behavior.

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7 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

What about Mai Seva of Mai Seva Bazaar?

in Guru ji's  sixth form  Guru ji saved Mai Sevan from a forceable conversion by qazi and allowed her to do sewa unhindered in Amritsar.

 

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What you folk need to understand about the intentions and desired affect behind the broader, "There is no Hindu, there is no Muslim" narrative pushed by certain contemporary ideologues is that by embracing and pushing this belief, it also endorses -- by omission -- the idea that there is also no Sikh. It is a sentiment of erasure; our erasure.

The original sentiment espoused by Guru Sahib was a unifying idea  steeped in an admirable sense of spirituality whereby they wanted to promote the idea that our differences are superficial, and ultimately we are more than the labels that we cling to. This was  during a period where Hindus and Muslims were numbered in the millions. For someone to come along at the time and propose a so-called third way in the midst of social and religious strife, was a radical act, because at the time the adherents to that third way numbered a handful of individuals with no real presence.

Some might argue, therefore, that Guru Sahib never planned for us to become the very thing they were rallying against, which I don't believe is true, because it would mean subsequent Guru Sahibs were spinning the wheels of rebellion and organisation without an end goal in mind, which I believe is false.

Now that we've grown beyond that relatively short number YET are still nowhere near the billions of the other two factions, for us to promote and celebrate this "One Religion" idea in the modern world -- especially after everything we've seen and experienced in the subsequent centuries -- is damaging to our survival as a distinct group. You can either choose to belong to the human race and pretend as if differences and divisions don't exist, or you exist with some form of preference and affection for the unique cultural and religious heritage of your ancestors. Celebrating the distinctness of others while simultaneously undermining your own uniqueness and doctrine is what traitors do. And a group comprised of traitors -- whether they be well-meaning yet misguided or of the calculating variety -- is a group that is destined for destruction.

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It's interesting how even in the comments in that video there are people saying that there is nothing wrong with the quote and its the same as guru jis teachings    some people never learn, or they are so fixed with their own view that they dont want to accept and learn. 

The main thing missing among many "Sikhs" today is loyalty.  Their loalty is else where, they have their own world views, whether if its leftist, liberal views, feminists etc  they try and mold sikhi to their view and what fits with their view. 

All these people that use these quotes   how often would they use bani which talks about giving your head to the guru? or torture for sins in the next life ?  

Would someone like sunny hundal ever quote babur bani? 

Absolute loayality is what's missing

 

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