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Sikh is a race, not just a religion

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8 hours ago, puzzled said:

thats not nice     they are still sikh 

Yea they could hv been a little more polite

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Guest daas guest singh

This sikhs are an ethinicity thing is just some political BS i personally dont support it

 

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Guest daas guest singh

 see this it has some good info,views and things like that basically,a must read https :// www.sikhnet.com /news/are-sikhs-ethinicity-commentary

just have a look at this (i hv used the remove link option cos links take a long time to get approved so,just copy this text and searchoon google it will show u the article apney aap)

tnx

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6 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

Why did you take my words out of context?

 

I said:

"At the end of the day, you have a haircut, so whatever you think or say is meaningless. Through your actions you have renounced the Sikh religion."

This means, his actions show what he thinks and what really matters to him.

 

 

It doesn't matter if I say something nice or say something that's not nice.

It doesn't matter what you think or what I think or what he thinks.

 

EVERY TIME he shaves, EVERY TIME he gets a haircut, he is renouncing his faith in Sikhi

 

He has made it clear where he stands by his actions.

I dont know man. I used to have the same view as you. Screw the panjabis. Only the amritdharis matter. 

But. 

Most gurudware are supported by the sangat. Which is normal panjabis. 

We have a lot to be grateful for from the moneh sikhs. They came to foreign counties and did not totally renounce their faith. They built gurudwarey, brought in granthis, saroops of SGGS. Had gurudwarey in homes, then slowly bought land. Most langar and nagarkirtans are run by their seva. 

Also according to sikh rehit maryada, you are a sikh ifnu believe in 1 god, the 10 gurus, SGGS, have no faith in another religion, and believe in amrit. 

And sehajdhari sikh have played a huge part throughout sikh history .  

And amritdharis biggest recruiting ground is these moneh ppl. But their sikh family and sangat failed them in the past, that they were allowed to go lax. 

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9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

the race relations act in UK protects the jews and sikhs as races ... and the definiton I gave is the one in the new US census .
Sikhs are one race as Guru ji defined us , one varna , one race - human  chill dude.

Okay, I thought some m0rons might have been trying to push us in the 'race' direction. You're old enough to know how ugly that can be. 

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33 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Okay, I thought some m0rons might have been trying to push us in the 'race' direction. You're old enough to know how ugly that can be. 

yep we are back in the 1970s again, oh joy , not.

 

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

yep we are back in the 1970s again, oh joy , not.

 

Yep, we're getting there if we aren't already. These younguns better toughen up!

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:48 PM, Guest CanadianSikh94 said:

There is a difference between believing the Sikh religion and calling yourself a Sikh. I believe that Sikh is an ethnogroup of Punjabis who have at least 100 years of sikh ancestry, have Sikh principles and beliefs, and practiced it culturally. Sikh ancestry is your father, mother, grandmothers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, great-grandmothers, etc. are Punjabi Sikh. I believe that people from a different background who convert to sikhism should not call themselves Sikh but they should instead say they practice it. If the convert practices it truthfully for a long time and are known in the community, you will be still considered as a practicing Sikh. You are a practicing Sikh even when you die.  You will never be a Sikh in the sense of race given your ethnicity and past heritage (sorry to say this). For example, if my kids see a white or a Pakistani Muslim practicing the Sikh religion, I would not call him/her a Sikh. Instead, I would say he/she is practicing our Sikh religion. Also, you're full Sikh if you're born into a Sikh family with no heritage mixing going back 100 years and stick with your Sikh beliefs until the day you die. It gets complicated when you talk about amritdhari. It's a 100% chance that if you have 100 years of Sikh ancestry , at least one of your ancestors practiced amritdhari. In that case, it is fine for descendants to call themselves sikh but do not practice amritdhari. However, they would still have Sikh beliefs and practice culturally (going to gurdwara, doing seva, etc.)

I can tell you a bit information about myself. I was given an European first name. I am Punjabi and I am brown. I wear a Kara sometimes and I cut my hair. I wear a turban on special occasions. When I was 0-4 years old, I used to have a joora.  But there's something inside of me that just makes me identify as sikh. I remember fondly my grandfather who was a true khalsa Sikh teach me math every Sunday when he came to visit me. I can trace my blood line back to early 1800s and every ancestor of mine was a Punjabi Jat Sikh. No ancestor of mine was a Muslim, christain, black, arab, Hispanic, hindu, white,  or biracial.

There are cases where a Sikh has a marriage with a non sikh and raise a family. Those children would be considered half Sikhs as long as they believe they are Sikh and practice it (doesn't have to be amritdhari). Few exceptions, mixed children have higher claim to being full sikh if the father was Sikh but the mother was not. If the mixed children marry other Sikhs and have kids, then those kids claim to being full Sikh will be higher.

To conclude, Sikhism is not just a religion. It is a race. I identify as a Sikh because I have a Punjabi background tracing back over 100 years of Sikh ancestry. For people who don't meet this requirement, you can still say you practice the Sikh religion and please continue to do so.

 

 

Sikh just means student. 

 

We are students of Truth. It's not a label, it's a choice of if you choose to be a student in practice or not. 

 

You cant convert, it's not a cultural group. Dont twist it.

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On 2/18/2020 at 1:16 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

The Sikh Federation are pushing hard for it.

There is a census in 2021. 

The Jews claim they originated from one tribe.

Yeah Jacobite...and they're black. 

Israelis are white supremacist imposters. 

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