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9 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

the particular girl had been tagged by the family who kidnapped her years before when she was 12  so let's not try to make fake connections . The girl's kidnapping happened before Langha opened , before Kashmir curfew before we rescued any girl or boy . That is the truth .

Since when do we do things which are good only for reward? where's the nishkam sewa ? Didn't realise compassion had a price tag ...

Stop your bukwas. The kidnapping occurred three weeks after abrogation of article 370 in Kashmir and just when Sikhs were going all out to save the Kashmiri women. I suppose you can't see the irony of you making excuses for the kidnappers of a Sikh girl. Shahbash you're Muslim masters must be pleased to have a dhimmi like you around. 

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1 minute ago, genie said:

Exactly and we are in no position of helping others when we ourselves are in the weakest position of all religious communities within india. We are seen as harmless, soft, sellouts, jokers, backup dancers and left wing cuck liberal virtue signalers now

When sold out akal takht jathedhar says to help the muslim victims of the riots but not the hindu victims he makes us look stupid  and biased islamophiles by not reaching out to all affected.

We Sikhs should not even entertain this mess let the idiots try sort out the mess themselves they got themselves into. Siding with one side or another just further weakens our position.

Dashmesh Pita told us to understand rajneeti.

I imagine that some of the Shaheedi of the past was quite tactical and calculated. 

What some of the posters here are suggesting is pure suicide.

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3 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

 

@MisterrSingh it's no fantasy world.  Even when bhai kanhaiya ji was giving water to the enemy on the battlefield,  Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji was out numbered.  Even when the Singh were rescuing hindu women from brothels,  they were out numbered and still helped the people of a religion that will fight them in the next hour.  The Sikhs have been always out numbered.  But from the first Guru to the 11th, the Sikhs have put their neck on the line to help innocent people being mistreated or killed.  In 1984 genocide of Sikhs in dehli after the assassination of indra Gandhi, very few hindu families helped by saving Sikh lives. Even the famous Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa Bhindranwale said in an discussion with a hindu, he would do whatever it takes to help  child being murdered.   Sant ji will only accept it as God's will if, after trying to break free, he could not, then its God's hukam.

I understand your contribution and your argument. Here it comes... but the Bhai Khanaiya scenario has hung around the necks of Sikhs like an albatross for centuries, and it does us no favours. Our priority should be victory and our people. If that means hell or whatever else will be used to intimidate people into acting contrary to our interests at that immediate moment in time, then I suppose that's between the individual and Guru Sahib, and nobody else.

There's two choices: fight to win for gains on this physical plane, which more often than not involves responding to the acts of the enemy, or act according to divine will and forgo all earthly motivations. A game does not have two sets of rules. Sikhs shouldn't be expected to have one foot on the battlefield and another in Sachkhand, because the enemy doesn't recognise the rules by which we're functioning. If THAT is the game we're supposed to play, then just pack up and go home now. No-one in the history of this planet in the Four Yugs has managed to win a war by tending to the enemy in a way the people on this site are suggesting. I'm not suggesting barbarism or evil before someone twists my words.

 

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1 minute ago, proactive said:

Stop your bukwas. The kidnapping occurred three weeks after abrogation of article 370 in Kashmir and just when Sikhs were going all out to save the Kashmiri women. I suppose you can't see the irony of you making excuses for the kidnappers of a Sikh girl. Shahbash you're Muslim masters must be pleased to have a dhimmi like you around. 

you cannot claim  our rescue attempts happened prior that was my point so there was no 'reward' element expected  by us . What happened to her was disgusting and the poor girls is still stuck in limbo getting her head done in by muslim consulers at the women's refuge . Her only solution is leaving the country but she is trapped on all sides by different elements.

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Just now, Ranjeet01 said:

Dashmesh Pita told us to understand rajneeti.

I imagine that some of the Shaheedi of the past was quite tactical and calculated. 

What some of the posters here are suggesting is pure suicide.

 

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Gursikhs have always been greatly outnumbered. One with God is a majority. Sikhs have a given responsibility greater than those given to any religion. A Dharmic duty.

"I came into the world charged with the duty to uphold the right in every place, to destroy sin and evil... the only reason I took birth was to see that righteousness may flourish, that good may live, and tyrants be torn out by their roots."

 

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4 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

yup they came for sikhs and no1 helped us. We learn't the hard way well those with any IQ that is the ones who havent learn their lesson perhaps have no love for sikhi they want it to mix and blend and vanish into history eventually.

At least in nazi germany the Jews had the western powers and huge financial banking power backing them up and western allies had their various foreign empires troops fighting the nazi's and japs.

Sikhs are cannon fodder for the political powers now. As soon as we break out of that subservient slave mentality to non-sikhs the stronger we will be in our determination to better our community.

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6 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

That quote is a load of cr@p.

It should be:

First they came us Sikhs and no one helped us.

There was no one to speak up for us even though we helped others. 

Now the people who oppressed us want to help us to help them so they can backstab us again.

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2 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

That quote is a load of cr@p.

It should be:

First they came us Sikhs and no one helped us.

There was no one to speak up for us even though we helped others. 

Now the people who oppressed us want to help us to help them so they can backstab us again.

In a way exactly. They're all storks you're the swan. You have to be apart from this place and its ways. You have Gurmukh ways that don't change. Ways that embrace even death. 

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