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30 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

When i used to travel on the train to go uni, few years ago, they'd be notes on the seats along lines 'im single mother, homeless lost job pls buy this tissue paper packet' from  Eastern European girls really pretty girls model looks,  who'd be in their 20's, You'd never think they homeless, they'd be dressed as any other normal person, not a sign by the way dressed looked, you'd think they be homeless. 

i'd feel bad, they would say we have young babies no food etc naively i'd give couple to pounds..buy packet tissue papers...but i was suspicious, one day staff member stopped me said they'd con artists and not homeless at all! They'd complete actors. Told me never fall this trap again. They'd make you fools. There was article once read DM how these esp Eastern European would pretend they'd homeless beg on streets London and be collecting £500+ more per day! 

Best to donate homeless shelter or charity shops like oxfam, cancer research

lol i know exactly what your talking about    they leave a note next to your seat and a small pack of tissues sometimes  lol!  first time i saw it like 7 years ago i thought it was genuine so i gave some change    but i didn't fall for it the 2nd time lol

these romani gypsies, refugees, eastern Europeans etc already get money from the government and housing! 

but i do feel bad for the "big issue" magazine people lol   there used to be this really old Romanian lady trying the sell the big issue in our highstreet and she would be literally begging and pleading to sell it, she would be like "big issue pleaseeee  big issue pleaseeee  pleaseeeee big issue pleaseeee"  for hours! non stop!  i would feel bad because she was old and i would give her a £1  lol!  

you know all these people that beg they ask asians more than they ask white people   have you noticed that? 

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2 hours ago, proactive said:

I am not being rude

Calling me stupid and obstinate wasn't respectful either. I'm a new member I haven't been following many threads previously, just read some things here and there. Please suggest some threads if possible.

2 hours ago, proactive said:

Give me the event when the Khalsa helped non-Sikhs and I will give you the context and explain why on that occasion the Khalsa helped non-Sikhs.

What about laadliyan faujan attacking convoys of Abdali and rescuing the slaves-to-be Marathi women? Sikhs had nothing to do with it as far as I know. Attacking a retreating convoy's bounty would have been annoying at best for Abdali, there can't be anything strategic about it that would've helped Sikhs in the long run?

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4 minutes ago, Khaaik said:

Calling me stupid and obstinate wasn't respectful either. I'm a new member I haven't been following many threads previously, just read some things here and there. Please suggest some threads if possible.

What about laadliyan faujan attacking convoys of Abdali and rescuing the slaves-to-be Marathi women? Sikhs had nothing to do with it as far as I know. Attacking a retreating convoy's bounty would have been annoying at best for Abdali, there can't be anything strategic about it that would've helped Sikhs in the long run?

Was there another convoy of Abdalis which had Sikh women being taken to Kabul which the Khalsa bypassed in order to rescue the Maratha women? No, so there you have the context, there is nothing wrong in helping non-Sikhs as long as there are not Sikhs who also need help who we are denying that help. 

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On 6/18/2020 at 2:20 AM, proactive said:

Was there another convoy of Abdalis which had Sikh women being taken to Kabul which the Khalsa bypassed in order to rescue the Maratha women? No, so there you have the context, there is nothing wrong in helping non-Sikhs as long as there are not Sikhs who also need help who we are denying that help. 

It does make sense. Was the Sikh community as a whole, prosperous at the time?

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On 6/17/2020 at 9:11 PM, puzzled said:

lol i know exactly what your talking about    they leave a note next to your seat and a small pack of tissues sometimes  lol!  first time i saw it like 7 years ago i thought it was genuine so i gave some change    but i didn't fall for it the 2nd time lol

these romani gypsies, refugees, eastern Europeans etc already get money from the government and housing! 

but i do feel bad for the "big issue" magazine people lol   there used to be this really old Romanian lady trying the sell the big issue in our highstreet and she would be literally begging and pleading to sell it, she would be like "big issue pleaseeee  big issue pleaseeee  pleaseeeee big issue pleaseeee"  for hours! non stop!  i would feel bad because she was old and i would give her a £1  lol!  

you know all these people that beg they ask asians more than they ask white people   have you noticed that? 

I used to buy The Big Issue years back, it was a pretty good read and the the person selling it used to make about 70/80 % on it, now i think they buy for half the price they sell for so the money they make has gone down.

On another note, the traffic light windscreen cleaners used to drive me nuts, i would take a 20 minute diversion when visiting my parents just to avoid them, that and they really didn't do a good job.

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On 5/25/2020 at 3:57 PM, Guest jigsaw_puzzled-singh said:

I don't think most of you have quite grasped the fundamentals of your own religion. Sikhi doesn't preach seva. It preaches SELFLESS SEVA. With selfless seva one does not make conversion or listening to scriptures a pre-condition of help. With selfless seva one does not choose who to help and who not to help based on that person's background. With selfless seva you just go ahead and help. And that's exactly what Khalsa Aid do. They go ahead and help.

 

And then there is:

Very sorry your house burned down brother but I'm sure Khalsa Aid were as surprised as the rest of us to know that a family living in England, in this day and age,  could be so cavalier that they didn't even take out a basic Buildings and Contents insurance policy on their own home. 

KhalsaAid don't do selfless seva otherwise you would have helped my family. KhalsaAid do political seva. Grenfell tower had lots of insurance and government help and you still went and helped them. They received loads of money from the government and other charities. I wrote that on your facebook and you deleted it within 1 minute. You just want to come up with excuses of why you could not help my family.

No one could even give my family some basic food or clothes. We had no money, no house to cook or sleep in and no clothes. It was all burnt. Even the clothes on our body smelt of smoke. There was no where to wash or clean. Every Sikh gurdwara or organisation we approached fought with us rather than accepting that this was a terrible time for us and in all honesty it was an opportunity to do real seva. Not one person even gave food or langar on the day it happened yet they all say they help all with food. 

The fact you still think what happened to us was ok just shows how you don't do real seva.

If you believed in khalsa panth then you would never allow your own brother to suffer like this. There is no panth. Guru Gobind Singh was deluded when he said the death of his children was ok and the khalsa panth are one and these are my children and family. In practice we don't behave like we are a family. If I was your real brother would you have been so cold? Do you not wonder how I have lived?

My pain and suffering will be mine. If no one could have given some food then at least some kind words and not the abuse we had. It is bad enough not having any help but then the hatred and abuse on top.

My family have lived without electricity, without gas, without hot water. I have slept on the floor next to rats. I have taken things out of bins. I was studying and I have passed my exams and survived. I don't need your help anymore but I guess back then you did not have a heart to see when children are suffering. Every day I hear Sikh seva news and its fake. All I can say is that my family should never have given any dasvand, or done any gurdwara langar seva or akhand paaths.  If we had not donated in the past then at least we could have had something to help ourselves rather than giving what we had to the blind gurus golak which only seems to take.

So the lesson is learnt now to never do dasvand or seva because there is no eva or khalsa panth that exists. It was all fake and this happened to make me see that otherwise I would also be a blind sikh that just gives to the gurdwara and random charities. 

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2 hours ago, kcmidlands said:

I used to buy The Big Issue years back, it was a pretty good read and the the person selling it used to make about 70/80 % on it, now i think they buy for half the price they sell for so the money they make has gone down.

On another note, the traffic light windscreen cleaners used to drive me nuts, i would take a 20 minute diversion when visiting my parents just to avoid them, that and they really didn't do a good job.

Lol  I remember those    I dnt think they do that anymore?   They used to have a bucket and sponge lol 

Do you remember the milk man and the milk truck with the crates lol. 

And how they used to wrap chips in newspaper at the shop lol 

Theres hardly any jehovah's witnesses knocking on peoples doors either. They used to be knocking on the door every week back then. They gave my mum the new testament once when I was a kid and I cut the pages up to make paper animals!  

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2 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Lol  I remember those    I dnt think they do that anymore?   They used to have a bucket and sponge lol 

Do you remember the milk man and the milk truck with the crates lol. 

And how they used to wrap chips in newspaper at the shop lol 

 

Yeah, i'm old enough to remember those things but not "LOL" old.... ?

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17 hours ago, proactive said:

What do you mean? Were there Sikhs in need at that time that the Khalsa Dal were bypassing? You are clutching at straws trying to look for examples of a Khalsa Aid type work during the 18th century

Bro I wasn't implying anything just genuinely asking. I'm here to learn as well. I was agreeing with you. 

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