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On 5/18/2020 at 4:43 PM, BhForce said:

Hey bro, just like I've called out people on this website for posting videos by some loser calling himself "Satguru", I'd like to ask you to not post things by people calling themselves the custodian of the throne of Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj, the Satguru. And who don't believe in the Guruship of Guru Granth Sahib ji.

And this is regardless of whether he might happen to be saying something which is true.

Why would go and listen to someone calling himself Satguru?

Anyways, if you want to make a point regarding who Sikhs should give daan (charity) to, just quote Gurbani directly. You don't have to post the video of a charlatan saying the same thing.

Respected Brother, You consider yourself a Sikh according to Gurbani but you have not been given any right to be called a Sikh or not. You are writing Satguru himself to Dalip Singh. Consider him as human only। The second thing I have seen the video, what is wrong with it? Can you make a video of it? Eye-opening video? Or only learn to slander against Gurbani

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I think this is a real interesting thread. I was sent this link a few days ago and it really made me think, why do we have so many different divisions. And those who are anti panthic and take us away from sikhi why don’t we speak up against them. I think every institute wether your a charity or Gurdwara must be transparent.  See the video for yourself. 

https://youtu.be/hAknphd0tJw

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On 5/25/2020 at 3:57 PM, Guest jigsaw_puzzled-singh said:

I don't think most of you have quite grasped the fundamentals of your own religion. Sikhi doesn't preach seva. It preaches SELFLESS SEVA. With selfless seva one does not make conversion or listening to scriptures a pre-condition of help. With selfless seva one does not choose who to help and who not to help based on that person's background. With selfless seva you just go ahead and help. And that's exactly what Khalsa Aid do. They go ahead and help.

 

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Very sorry your house burned down brother but I'm sure Khalsa Aid were as surprised as the rest of us to know that a family living in England, in this day and age,  could be so cavalier that they didn't even take out a basic Buildings and Contents insurance policy on their own home. 

Where do you get your information from? Selfless Sewa means doing sewa without expecting  any rewards in return. If our SEWA is not selfless then we have created a karma or bond between yourself and the recipient of our sewa. Selfless means egoless. We are told not to donate to any organisations or individuals that are engaged in immoral activities such as drugs, alcoholism, prostitution or general exploitation of tha human race, because we will creat a karmic debt and will have to pay for it later on. Don’t create karma when doing sewa, do it with selflessness without bringing your ego into it. Don’t say ‘I’ am the doer of this sewa, say instead the the God is the ‘doer’ of this sewa. I am God’s instrument. Get rid of the ego and think properly before you do any sewa. 

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On 5/7/2020 at 6:01 AM, Guest Gupt said:

I personally approached Khalsa Aid after my house burnt down in the UK, I asked for help. We were homeless, no food, no shelter and no clothes as all our things got burnt. No one helped. Not even the local gurdwaras. After everyone refused basic help, I said it was no problem if they did not want to do financial help but I asked if they could help lift the rubble as I had no one to help me (both parents not well). No one helped. Khalsa Aid  replied saying that they only help with causes abroad and not in England. 

 

Years later Grenfell tower fire was on the news. Khalsa Aid was the first to ask for money and post pictures of them giving mineral water. I posted on their facebook page about the irony of them helping these fire families and not mine and they deleted my comment within 2 minutes. My comment basically asked why they chose to help Grenfell Tower victims as it was exactly what happened to my family but worse as we had no where to go and no help from anyone. I asked if it was because the Grenfell Tower was in the news and we were not and maybe thats why. There was immediate deletion of the post. Khalsa Aid only help if you are in national news. Our house fire was in the local newspaper but not on TV so it would not have generated enough money for Khalsa Aid. It also would not have scored them any brownie points with the government like the Grenfell Tower did. 

To this day not a single person offered help, kind words or anything. This includes Sangat TV. Niskham Gurdwara on Soho Road refused to give us food on the day of the fire when we had no kitchen, no money and no food. I personally do not know why they bother doing homeless food runs etc. Maybe if were white they would have helped because then they would have got brownie points for we giving a white family langar when their house got on fire, when they have no house and no where to cook food. 

It makes me sad because in my family we have had alot of shaheeds ie where my ancestors gave up their lives for the love of serving sikhi, as a family we used to donate to gurdwaras regularly. I remember when we were young these people came to our house and took loads of money for 1984 causes. They literally took thousands of pounds worth a whole years salary.

When you give and donate so much you expect your own community to stabd by you, to help you, to be kind, to show love and support. It turns out sikh seva is just when things are on TV or when it gets the organistions brownie points with non Sikhs or the government. 

I no longer respect any Sikh, any organisation or gurdwara. I decided to stop going gurdwara, I do not donate money to anyone and no longer see gurdwaras or charities to be genuine. Its all business for them and nothing more.

I forgot to add, I even asked if they could give a loan and I would pay it back slowly so that way they lost no money and we could get over our hardship and they said no to that. It does not suprise me as they would not even give food. I do not know why we bothered ever donating money or thinking the gurdwara or khalsa aid would help because the truth is that they do not help Sikhs in need. The whole concept of helping the panth does not exist. You have to be non Sikh OR in the English news to get government brownie points and therefore worthy of help. It is a shame because that it not what our Gurus were about. The Gurus were not looking for awards or government recognition. 

Midland Langar Seva is the same. They disappeared when we had no food but I went to their event recently and basically they just wanted to give food to white people and were like this is not for you. I personally think they have misunderstood Gurus idea of langar. Langar is for everyone even if you are a king or a poor beggar. The idea was that everyone socialised and it broke down barriers so that there was a community where rich and poor spoke to each other to unite and understand. It was also done on the knowledge that you were bettering yourself as a person ie those who were attending katha and vichaar etc. From what I have seen the druggies have no intention of making themselves better. They just want free food so they can save the rest of their money for drugs. The reason they are on the streets is because they save rent money to use on drugs. Feeding them defeats the purpose really. 

Honestly I cannot real recommend anyone after what I experienced as not one single organisation could even give us roti when we had nothing. From that day onwards I see them all as hypocrites. Maybe the people who give to these people have not had anything bad happen to them and so do not know that they will not help you in your time of need. They will not even care to return and respect what you were donating to them. In a few generations our gurdwaras will become like churches because it will become obvious. My children are going to be raised to not give money or go gurdwara so it is a loss to the panth. In my opinion it is obvious there is no genuine seva in any gurdwara activity.

All the TV channels have been set up to get money and our community are dumb enough ti give it. I had the delight of meeting the Akaal channel owner Amrik Kooner owner after I was robbed of my laptop by 2 men who attacked me and punched me to the floor outside Akaal Channel under its CCTV. He refused to give police the CCTV and was demanding I pay him £140 for it.  These people like Amrik Kooner, Ravi from Khalsa Aid then go on TV and social gatherings pretending to be angels of the earth to get money from people. It is part of the act but truth is my encounters in my hours of need have shown the the truth of them.

For the rest of you out there who are lucky enough to not have to ask them for help then I want you to think about the matrimonal service led by the gurdwaras. Matrimonials is the best example of how little the gurdwaras care about serving our community. If they really cared they would have one list for the whole of the UK but instead there are 30 lists and they all charge money for the same people.

Sangat Matrimonial by Soho Road is the most expensive and has events in a hotel. I asked them why not in the langar hall or any of the rooms in that large complex of a gurdwara. Well if they did that then they cannot charge you the £70 registration fee and £30 dinner fee. Another gurdwara in Southall Park avenue does it the same in a hotel where they served chicken. I raised it as an issue that a gurdwara sikh matrimonial event is serving meat and it was brushed under the carpet. Again another example of the seva being fake and not doing real seva. Then they wonder why our community marries outside. Well, firstly we are a small community. Secondly we are spread about the country, the gurdwaras make it hard by wanting money and there is little success as they do not have the ekta or desire to have one list as it means they lose money. After all these hurdles it is just easier to marry Elizabeth or John at work. 

Anyways back to the original issue - nobody is doing genuine seva. It is all about money. We too will become like churches because the panth is not serving the panth. It is serving money interests of those in charge. 

 

 

GEEZ ! If what you're saying is true , it makes issues in indian gurudwaras seem like a slight pimple . I am from mumbai , and when we went for matrimonial at a large gurudwara a few kilometers away from home, they only charged us 50 Rupees or something for the ID card (50 rupees is like less than 1 pound) . Lots of corruption exist in indian gurudware too, but I guess its not on the scale as that of west.

If what you say is true , we're in a deep deep mess . We're a self-sabotaging community , no wonder we have so many issues/

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On 5/7/2020 at 1:31 AM, Guest Gupt said:

I personally approached Khalsa Aid after my house burnt down in the UK, I asked for help. We were homeless, no food, no shelter and no clothes as all our things got burnt. No one helped. Not even the local gurdwaras. After everyone refused basic help, I said it was no problem if they did not want to do financial help but I asked if they could help lift the rubble as I had no one to help me (both parents not well). No one helped. Khalsa Aid  replied saying that they only help with causes abroad and not in England. 

 

Years later Grenfell tower fire was on the news. Khalsa Aid was the first to ask for money and post pictures of them giving mineral water. I posted on their facebook page about the irony of them helping these fire families and not mine and they deleted my comment within 2 minutes. My comment basically asked why they chose to help Grenfell Tower victims as it was exactly what happened to my family but worse as we had no where to go and no help from anyone. I asked if it was because the Grenfell Tower was in the news and we were not and maybe thats why. There was immediate deletion of the post. Khalsa Aid only help if you are in national news. Our house fire was in the local newspaper but not on TV so it would not have generated enough money for Khalsa Aid. It also would not have scored them any brownie points with the government like the Grenfell Tower did. 

To this day not a single person offered help, kind words or anything. This includes Sangat TV. Niskham Gurdwara on Soho Road refused to give us food on the day of the fire when we had no kitchen, no money and no food. I personally do not know why they bother doing homeless food runs etc. Maybe if were white they would have helped because then they would have got brownie points for we giving a white family langar when their house got on fire, when they have no house and no where to cook food. 

It makes me sad because in my family we have had alot of shaheeds ie where my ancestors gave up their lives for the love of serving sikhi, as a family we used to donate to gurdwaras regularly. I remember when we were young these people came to our house and took loads of money for 1984 causes. They literally took thousands of pounds worth a whole years salary.

When you give and donate so much you expect your own community to stabd by you, to help you, to be kind, to show love and support. It turns out sikh seva is just when things are on TV or when it gets the organistions brownie points with non Sikhs or the government. 

I no longer respect any Sikh, any organisation or gurdwara. I decided to stop going gurdwara, I do not donate money to anyone and no longer see gurdwaras or charities to be genuine. Its all business for them and nothing more.

I forgot to add, I even asked if they could give a loan and I would pay it back slowly so that way they lost no money and we could get over our hardship and they said no to that. It does not suprise me as they would not even give food. I do not know why we bothered ever donating money or thinking the gurdwara or khalsa aid would help because the truth is that they do not help Sikhs in need. The whole concept of helping the panth does not exist. You have to be non Sikh OR in the English news to get government brownie points and therefore worthy of help. It is a shame because that it not what our Gurus were about. The Gurus were not looking for awards or government recognition. 

Midland Langar Seva is the same. They disappeared when we had no food but I went to their event recently and basically they just wanted to give food to white people and were like this is not for you. I personally think they have misunderstood Gurus idea of langar. Langar is for everyone even if you are a king or a poor beggar. The idea was that everyone socialised and it broke down barriers so that there was a community where rich and poor spoke to each other to unite and understand. It was also done on the knowledge that you were bettering yourself as a person ie those who were attending katha and vichaar etc. From what I have seen the druggies have no intention of making themselves better. They just want free food so they can save the rest of their money for drugs. The reason they are on the streets is because they save rent money to use on drugs. Feeding them defeats the purpose really. 

Honestly I cannot real recommend anyone after what I experienced as not one single organisation could even give us roti when we had nothing. From that day onwards I see them all as hypocrites. Maybe the people who give to these people have not had anything bad happen to them and so do not know that they will not help you in your time of need. They will not even care to return and respect what you were donating to them. In a few generations our gurdwaras will become like churches because it will become obvious. My children are going to be raised to not give money or go gurdwara so it is a loss to the panth. In my opinion it is obvious there is no genuine seva in any gurdwara activity.

All the TV channels have been set up to get money and our community are dumb enough ti give it. I had the delight of meeting the Akaal channel owner Amrik Kooner owner after I was robbed of my laptop by 2 men who attacked me and punched me to the floor outside Akaal Channel under its CCTV. He refused to give police the CCTV and was demanding I pay him £140 for it.  These people like Amrik Kooner, Ravi from Khalsa Aid then go on TV and social gatherings pretending to be angels of the earth to get money from people. It is part of the act but truth is my encounters in my hours of need have shown the the truth of them.

For the rest of you out there who are lucky enough to not have to ask them for help then I want you to think about the matrimonal service led by the gurdwaras. Matrimonials is the best example of how little the gurdwaras care about serving our community. If they really cared they would have one list for the whole of the UK but instead there are 30 lists and they all charge money for the same people.

Sangat Matrimonial by Soho Road is the most expensive and has events in a hotel. I asked them why not in the langar hall or any of the rooms in that large complex of a gurdwara. Well if they did that then they cannot charge you the £70 registration fee and £30 dinner fee. Another gurdwara in Southall Park avenue does it the same in a hotel where they served chicken. I raised it as an issue that a gurdwara sikh matrimonial event is serving meat and it was brushed under the carpet. Again another example of the seva being fake and not doing real seva. Then they wonder why our community marries outside. Well, firstly we are a small community. Secondly we are spread about the country, the gurdwaras make it hard by wanting money and there is little success as they do not have the ekta or desire to have one list as it means they lose money. After all these hurdles it is just easier to marry Elizabeth or John at work. 

Anyways back to the original issue - nobody is doing genuine seva. It is all about money. We too will become like churches because the panth is not serving the panth. It is serving money interests of those in charge. 

 

 

That’s so sad 

I think nanaksar cape hill would have helped

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On 5/7/2020 at 1:31 AM, Guest Gupt said:

I personally approached Khalsa Aid after my house burnt down in the UK, I asked for help. We were homeless, no food, no shelter and no clothes as all our things got burnt. No one helped. Not even the local gurdwaras. After everyone refused basic help, I said it was no problem if they did not want to do financial help but I asked if they could help lift the rubble as I had no one to help me (both parents not well). No one helped. Khalsa Aid  replied saying that they only help with causes abroad and not in England. 

 

Years later Grenfell tower fire was on the news. Khalsa Aid was the first to ask for money and post pictures of them giving mineral water. I posted on their facebook page about the irony of them helping these fire families and not mine and they deleted my comment within 2 minutes. My comment basically asked why they chose to help Grenfell Tower victims as it was exactly what happened to my family but worse as we had no where to go and no help from anyone. I asked if it was because the Grenfell Tower was in the news and we were not and maybe thats why. There was immediate deletion of the post. Khalsa Aid only help if you are in national news. Our house fire was in the local newspaper but not on TV so it would not have generated enough money for Khalsa Aid. It also would not have scored them any brownie points with the government like the Grenfell Tower did. 

To this day not a single person offered help, kind words or anything. This includes Sangat TV. Niskham Gurdwara on Soho Road refused to give us food on the day of the fire when we had no kitchen, no money and no food. I personally do not know why they bother doing homeless food runs etc. Maybe if were white they would have helped because then they would have got brownie points for we giving a white family langar when their house got on fire, when they have no house and no where to cook food. 

It makes me sad because in my family we have had alot of shaheeds ie where my ancestors gave up their lives for the love of serving sikhi, as a family we used to donate to gurdwaras regularly. I remember when we were young these people came to our house and took loads of money for 1984 causes. They literally took thousands of pounds worth a whole years salary.

When you give and donate so much you expect your own community to stabd by you, to help you, to be kind, to show love and support. It turns out sikh seva is just when things are on TV or when it gets the organistions brownie points with non Sikhs or the government. 

I no longer respect any Sikh, any organisation or gurdwara. I decided to stop going gurdwara, I do not donate money to anyone and no longer see gurdwaras or charities to be genuine. Its all business for them and nothing more.

I forgot to add, I even asked if they could give a loan and I would pay it back slowly so that way they lost no money and we could get over our hardship and they said no to that. It does not suprise me as they would not even give food. I do not know why we bothered ever donating money or thinking the gurdwara or khalsa aid would help because the truth is that they do not help Sikhs in need. The whole concept of helping the panth does not exist. You have to be non Sikh OR in the English news to get government brownie points and therefore worthy of help. It is a shame because that it not what our Gurus were about. The Gurus were not looking for awards or government recognition. 

Midland Langar Seva is the same. They disappeared when we had no food but I went to their event recently and basically they just wanted to give food to white people and were like this is not for you. I personally think they have misunderstood Gurus idea of langar. Langar is for everyone even if you are a king or a poor beggar. The idea was that everyone socialised and it broke down barriers so that there was a community where rich and poor spoke to each other to unite and understand. It was also done on the knowledge that you were bettering yourself as a person ie those who were attending katha and vichaar etc. From what I have seen the druggies have no intention of making themselves better. They just want free food so they can save the rest of their money for drugs. The reason they are on the streets is because they save rent money to use on drugs. Feeding them defeats the purpose really. 

Honestly I cannot real recommend anyone after what I experienced as not one single organisation could even give us roti when we had nothing. From that day onwards I see them all as hypocrites. Maybe the people who give to these people have not had anything bad happen to them and so do not know that they will not help you in your time of need. They will not even care to return and respect what you were donating to them. In a few generations our gurdwaras will become like churches because it will become obvious. My children are going to be raised to not give money or go gurdwara so it is a loss to the panth. In my opinion it is obvious there is no genuine seva in any gurdwara activity.

All the TV channels have been set up to get money and our community are dumb enough ti give it. I had the delight of meeting the Akaal channel owner Amrik Kooner owner after I was robbed of my laptop by 2 men who attacked me and punched me to the floor outside Akaal Channel under its CCTV. He refused to give police the CCTV and was demanding I pay him £140 for it.  These people like Amrik Kooner, Ravi from Khalsa Aid then go on TV and social gatherings pretending to be angels of the earth to get money from people. It is part of the act but truth is my encounters in my hours of need have shown the the truth of them.

For the rest of you out there who are lucky enough to not have to ask them for help then I want you to think about the matrimonal service led by the gurdwaras. Matrimonials is the best example of how little the gurdwaras care about serving our community. If they really cared they would have one list for the whole of the UK but instead there are 30 lists and they all charge money for the same people.

Sangat Matrimonial by Soho Road is the most expensive and has events in a hotel. I asked them why not in the langar hall or any of the rooms in that large complex of a gurdwara. Well if they did that then they cannot charge you the £70 registration fee and £30 dinner fee. Another gurdwara in Southall Park avenue does it the same in a hotel where they served chicken. I raised it as an issue that a gurdwara sikh matrimonial event is serving meat and it was brushed under the carpet. Again another example of the seva being fake and not doing real seva. Then they wonder why our community marries outside. Well, firstly we are a small community. Secondly we are spread about the country, the gurdwaras make it hard by wanting money and there is little success as they do not have the ekta or desire to have one list as it means they lose money. After all these hurdles it is just easier to marry Elizabeth or John at work. 

Anyways back to the original issue - nobody is doing genuine seva. It is all about money. We too will become like churches because the panth is not serving the panth. It is serving money interests of those in charge. 

 

 

Did you have insurance for the house?

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Here is the video from his new channel on YouTube. He accuses Sikh channels of banning him from their shows and alleges that they want money for his appearances! It seems Ravi Singh is the only sucha sacha banda and all other Sikhs are just frauds. 

It's interesting how he uses the fact that his friend was murdered  by the police in a fake encounter in 1989 and he implies that this is what inspires him in his work. But if his inspiration is this then why is the percentage of funds that his charity gives to the Shaheed Parivaars so small compared to the funds collected and spent elsewhere? With the money he has collected he could in one go provide a 1-2 room house for every widow, fund the education of all the orphans and pay for their weddings. So the question is why hasn't he done that?

It's not rocket science but then you have to look at what Khalsa Aid is and what it provides for Ravi Singh you get the picture. He gets a good salary far above the average wage for this country, he gets kudos from those who think he is some kind of messiah for our Kaum. He gets free travel, he gets to visit various countries and his fan base is ever ready to defend him and put him forward for prizes and awards. It's  The rationale for the existence of all charities is that there should be a continuous flow of money for a continuous flow of causes. If a charity is set with an aim to deal with a particular issue then when that issue is solved then what is the rationale for the charity to continue to exist?

If Ravi Singh set up his charity to solve the problems of the Shaheed Parivaars then once their issue is solved, once each widow is housed, when each orphan  is educated and then married off then what will become of Ravi Singh and Khalsa Aid? He will have to get a job and he will have to pay for all his travels abroad. This is the crux of the matter and this is the reason why Ravi Singh has set up his charity to deal with 'humanitarian disasters'. These disasters come along like clockwork every few months and thus he has a ready supply of 'causes' to tug at the heartstrings of Sikhs. 

I'm sure his fans will respond that his aim in to help everywhere where there is a situation like that of his friend and help all people around the world who suffer from oppression, but this is easily answered by the fact that he goes to places where tens of millions have already been pledged or collected from not just western charities but also western governments. Take the case of Haiti, according to the Reliefweb up to 2013 over $3.5 Billion has been given as aid to Haiti since the earthquake. Khalsa Aid is supporting 9 orphanages and sends volunteers there to help out. That's all very commendable but what about the orphans in Punjab? There is no $3.5 Billion pledged to the Sikhs in need by the worldwide charities and governments and yet Ravi Singh sees nothing wrong in what Khalsa Aid is doing in Haiti. It all fits in with his agenda to have a ready supply of 'issues' to generate funds so that his business keeps going. 

 

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6 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

Now many Sikhs have started to question Ravi Aid aka "Khalsa" Aid. Gurpreet Singh California has raised some genuine points about Ravi Singh and his Aid organization

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2793290050777170&id=100002886077742

Can you pls summarize what he said...it's long video

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@proactive  But now a lot of these 'Sikh' charities, and Gurudwares are using the same model as KA, because they know how much pr, and money they can raise as well as salaries. It's not just them anymore. How many gurudwares were providing food for NHS, during this covd-19 and asking sangat to donate. Look at NY Sikhs at the recent blm protests..made it front page New york times. If they stop KA another will come along take their place! Its become a competition who will get most clout from free food

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3 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

Can you pls summarize what he said...it long video

Yeah true. That's why I downloaded Facebook video download app and watched the video at 2× the speed.

Well basically Gurpreet Singh California has raised the very same points that we read from proactive jees posts on Khalsa Aid. Gurpreet Singh says how in the name of helping Shaheed Parivaars he gets Sikhs to fund his organization. But very little of that money actually goes to help Shaheed Parivaars at all. These Shaheed Parivaars are living in poverty since their son became Shaheed. 

Then Khalsa Aid claims they have made Sikh schools in Jammu and other places. But when he and others went to those schools in India to enquire about this he found out no such help has happened and it is basically a fraud.

In the end his message was that Sikhs should spend their hard earned money on Shaheed Parivars, Parcharks, poor Sikhs as that is the hukam of Guru Gobind Singh ji. 

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7 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

Now many Sikhs have started to question Ravi Aid aka "Khalsa" Aid. Gurpreet Singh California has raised some genuine points about Ravi Singh and his Aid organization

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2793290050777170&id=100002886077742

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 Watch this!
@Jonny101  @proactive   @puzzled

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So is it wrong to give money to som1 who looks like a druggy or alcoholic? Like in the high street you get people looking like druggies approaching you for some change. Most of the time I feel sorry and give them some change. Most homeless people just buy a can of beer with it.  Last week i was walking home and a European boy who looked like a druggy asked me for change and I gave him around 1pound    further down I saw him asking som1 else for money. 

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