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Sikh Auntiyan on the Frontline against Coronavirus (Covid19)


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5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

Doesn't it say he's the first "Sikh consultant" to die not the "first consultant who is also a Sikh" to die?

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20 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

simple the sikhs muslims and brown staff were pushed into doing duties continuously in the most crowded , contagious situations instead of the white staff  who got less hours in locations which were less in danger's way.

No. Not true. They are all heroes. Having volunteered in an acute hospital a couple of weeks ago I can tell you - and remember I'm a critical race theorist who does never shy away from pointing out racism - that every doctor and nurse, white, brown and black, has been treated 100% equally by their superiors. No nurses and doctors of any colour have been "pushed" anywhere. Not the same story for the cleaners though. Same but not the same because they have been pushed and forced despite their circumstances but even with them race and creed has had nothing to do with the "push".   

The "push", as you put it, in relation to the doctors and nurses, has come internally. From ourselves as brown and black people. Yes, our lost brown and black healthcare professionals had put themselves in harm's way but it has been an internal self 'push' that put them there. That push has come sub-consciously from the realities of endemic systematic racism. The system has created a status quo in which the white worker can complain and point out safety concerns and then be seen as great management material.......for being able to see outside the box. This same system says that the BAME worker that complains and points out safety concerns is seen as a trouble-maker, and so speaking up will affect his or her job. If you want a detailed explanation about the subtle differences between people and the system you only need read my '$h1t that white people do' thread from the beginning.

Now.....I started this forum's very first Coronaviris thread back in the beginning of February (the 'a virus will wipe out punjab - everyone dies at the end' thread')  It got very few views and nobody was interested. Like you and everyone else I had no idea just how big this thing was going to become. I also started 2 other threads about in the beginning of March and in those threads I said the virus is sexist in that it likes killing men and racist in that it likes killing non-whites. I had no idea how true my predictions would turn out to be. As Italy and China was the epicentre back then I also said how smoking was to blame. Turns out I may have been wrong because now they're finding increasing evidence that tobacco / nicotine may be preventing people from getting this virus. I've said some pretty amazing things but the fact is that you don't know what you're talking, I don't know what I'm talking about, the politicians don't know what they're talking about and the doctors don't know what they're talking about. None of us do....yet. My inkling is that what I said in my previous message about ventilators killing patients that would have lived will be proved right but other than that it's all talk. Me, you and them can only offer talk right now. This thing is still one step ahead of us. It knows us but we don't yet know it.

 

Haldi ? yes I believe it helps in stopping me getting it

Simran breathing techniques ? yes I believe if I got the virus it will be Guru Ram Das ji's yoga kundalini breathing techniques that will help me beat it and survive.

Mirch - chillies ? Yes I believe they will help develop my immune system to help me stop getting it in the first place 

Vitamin D ?  yes, I believe that while we've all been preoccupied with building our immune systems with vitamin C it might actually be Vitamin D that will save us.

Smoking ?  yes there does seem to be a direct link between tobacco and preventing the transmission of the virus. Seems like nicotine patches might be touted by our governments as a cure. Question is.....if that's the case, what is the Sikh's point of view about patches ?

See. Questions. There's a lot of questions. Nobody anywhere has any answers yet. Slowly....very slowly.....little pieces of the jigsaw puzzle are starting to appear. And that's why I call myself jigsaw puzzled singh.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

the other doctors were either GPs or frontline hospital docs  he was first consultant.

From Daily mail

Urologist, 53, who warned Boris Johnson about 'urgent' need for more protective equipment for NHS workers 

Dr Abdul Mabud Chowdhury, passed away in hospital after a 15-day battle against the virus. 

Just three weeks ago, he wrote to the Prime Minister, asking him to 'urgently' ensure PPE was available for 'each and every NHS worker in the UK'.

The doctor, known to friends and family as Faisal, worked as a consultant urologist in east London 

 

 

Deeply committed and hard working' Ear, nose and throat surgeon who became the UK's first front-line doctor to die

Amged El-Hawrani became the UK's first front-line hospital doctor to die from coronavirus following warnings that a lack of protective equipment would cost medical staff lives.

The 'dedicated' consulant, who was an ear, nose and throat specialist at Queen's Hospital in Burton, was known for being 'extremely hard-working' and deeply committed to his patients.

He died on March 28 at the Glenfield Hospital in Leicester –

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On 4/22/2020 at 8:37 PM, Guest Jigsaw_puzzled_singh said:

No. Not true. They are all heroes. Having volunteered in an acute hospital a couple of weeks ago I can tell you - and remember I'm a critical race theorist who does never shy away from pointing out racism - that every doctor and nurse, white, brown and black, has been treated 100% equally by their superiors. No nurses and doctors of any colour have been "pushed" anywhere. Not the same story for the cleaners though. Same but not the same because they have been pushed and forced despite their circumstances but even with them race and creed has had nothing to do with the "push".   

The "push", as you put it, in relation to the doctors and nurses, has come internally. From ourselves as brown and black people. Yes, our lost brown and black healthcare professionals had put themselves in harm's way but it has been an internal self 'push' that put them there. That push has come sub-consciously from the realities of endemic systematic racism. The system has created a status quo in which the white worker can complain and point out safety concerns and then be seen as great management material.......for being able to see outside the box. This same system says that the BAME worker that complains and points out safety concerns is seen as a trouble-maker, and so speaking up will affect his or her job. If you want a detailed explanation about the subtle differences between people and the system you only need read my '$h1t that white people do' thread from the beginning.

Now.....I started this forum's very first Coronaviris thread back in the beginning of February (the 'a virus will wipe out punjab - everyone dies at the end' thread')  It got very few views and nobody was interested. Like you and everyone else I had no idea just how big this thing was going to become. I also started 2 other threads about in the beginning of March and in those threads I said the virus is sexist in that it likes killing men and racist in that it likes killing non-whites. I had no idea how true my predictions would turn out to be. As Italy and China was the epicentre back then I also said how smoking was to blame. Turns out I may have been wrong because now they're finding increasing evidence that tobacco / nicotine may be preventing people from getting this virus. I've said some pretty amazing things but the fact is that you don't know what you're talking, I don't know what I'm talking about, the politicians don't know what they're talking about and the doctors don't know what they're talking about. None of us do....yet. My inkling is that what I said in my previous message about ventilators killing patients that would have lived will be proved right but other than that it's all talk. Me, you and them can only offer talk right now. This thing is still one step ahead of us. It knows us but we don't yet know it.

 

Haldi ? yes I believe it helps in stopping me getting it

Simran breathing techniques ? yes I believe if I got the virus it will be Guru Ram Das ji's yoga kundalini breathing techniques that will help me beat it and survive.

Mirch - chillies ? Yes I believe they will help develop my immune system to help me stop getting it in the first place 

Vitamin D ?  yes, I believe that while we've all been preoccupied with building our immune systems with vitamin C it might actually be Vitamin D that will save us.

Smoking ?  yes there does seem to be a direct link between tobacco and preventing the transmission of the virus. Seems like nicotine patches might be touted by our governments as a cure. Question is.....if that's the case, what is the Sikh's point of view about patches ?

See. Questions. There's a lot of questions. Nobody anywhere has any answers yet. Slowly....very slowly.....little pieces of the jigsaw puzzle are starting to appear. And that's why I call myself jigsaw puzzled singh.

 

 

 

Well ?   This is supposed to be a Sikh discussion forum. Don't you think at least one of you should be discussing the possible moral / ethical dilemma that Sikhs will face should tobacco / nicotine patches be touted by our governments as am effective way to protect the body from this virus ?

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On 4/23/2020 at 11:53 PM, SikhismGuide said:

A big well done to all Sikhs who are working under extreme pressure and risking their lifes to help the vulnerable.

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Quick question for you: My auntie, who risks her life several times a day by cleaning the bed spaces of dead Coronavirus victims at a large London hospital......why do you think she is doing it ? Is it...

a) Because she thinks it is her religious / moral duty to "help the vulnerable" ?

or

b) Because it's her job and if she refused she would lose her job and the Gas company, Electricity company, Bank and council tax won't accept "not capable of helping the vulnerable" as a good excuse for free Gas, Electric and Mortgage ?

My next question is for how long do you plan on visiting various threads and ruining them with one or two sentence childish cliched banal life hack nonsense ?

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On 4/21/2020 at 6:37 PM, DailyMail said:

I am not aware of breathing techniques but it has been reported that ventilators may be doing more harm than good. Intensive care medics are increasingly using nasal oxygen or something called PEEP (positive-end expiratory pressure) ventilation, basically non-invasive oxygen therapy and are only using traditional ventilators (intubation) as a last resort. The usual biological parameters which determine the threshold at which ventilation is required is being looked at again because many patients aren't responding to ventilators as well as one would normally expect.

True Doctor talk, Daily Mail. True doctor talk. But this thing has now moved beyond ventilators. You know as well as I do that NHS Trusts across the UK yesterday issued guidelines to it's brown and black staff. Finally. Those guidelines were exactly the same as I had been calling for on this forum in my 3 original Coronavirus threads.  Yesterday (Friday 1st May) when every NHS hospital had found that the  virus problem was almost over with and things were back to normal. Yesterday was the day that all major hospitals finally announced that black and brown were at a higher risk so would be risk assessed to be taken off the frontline. Yesterday. Yesterday, when it was all over they finally remembered the value of a brown and black life. As a doctor how does that make you feel ?

Now.....Daily Mail....let me ask you something man to man. 

I'm no clinician. Man knows nothing about patient care. But man has enough deep contacts within equality and diversity in the NHS to know that the only reason your employer and all NHS hospitals finally announced the things I had said on this forum since the beginning of March was because Somerset NHS Foundation Trust took the lead a few weeks ago and set the agenda. You and I also know that Somerset NHS Foundation Trust could afford to do so because it was the NHS Trust in the UK with the fewest number of brown and black frontline staff. What I'm saying is that your Trust did not do so because it knew it could not afford to do so because it could not function without the 70% of frontline staff who just happen to be brown and black. This means that your life - your family's life - and the life of all your brown and black colleagues came second to operational needs. I say that should at the very least give you pause for thought. What say thee, doctor ?

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It is true that some Black and Asian communities are at greater risk but what isn't clear is why that is so. For example - how about the Indian and Pakistani communities in India and Pakistan - why aren't they suffering a similar mortality rate? Therefore, is UV light and vitamin D a bigger factor here? 

The latest report from the ONS state that Indian men are 30-40% more likely to die from Covid-19 and for Pakistani/Bangladeshi men it is as high as 60% (compared to white men as a benchmark). 

The NHS will have to act on national guidelines produced by national institutions such as the ONS, rather than any particular NHS Trust. 

Around a month ago the Nursing and Midwifery Council already advised all of it's members regardless of ethnicity that they have the right to not work unless adequate PPE is provided. 

The BMA crucially, did not. Whether individual NHS Trusts (regardless of proportion of BAME members) issued local guidance, I do not know. I suspect not, however.

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