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The western countries including the UK have been desperately trying to send back both individual and Afghan Sikh families back to Afghanistan even though they are aware that these Sikhs' lives are under threat in Afghanistan. Just this month the European Court of Human Rights dismissed an appeal by an Afghan Sikh family to not be deported from Holland back to Afghanistan. It used a statement that the British embassy had got in a questionnaire to Narinder Singh Khalsa ( who father was assassinated in 2018 ) who is a member of Parliament in Afghanistan. He stated that -;

Q11. In order to show support available for Afghan Sikhs, where are the majority Sikh located in Afghan? And how many of them are there? I am aware that many Afghan Sikh have returned from Pak to Afghan.  
 
A11. The vast majority are located in the provinces of Kabul and Nangahar. 
 
Mr Khalsa went onto explain that their grievances are solely with the Afghan Government for their lack of action on their social, economic and educational welfare and NOT the vast Afghan Muslim community who as a whole he states are very welcoming and supportive. Following the death of his father he received countless messages of condolence from the Muslim community. 

 

How about that for a idiocy? 

 

The ECHR decision states -;

The Strasbourg court noted that Sikhs experience various forms of societal discrimination in Afghanistan, despite the equality protections in the Afghan constitution. But the court also placed great weight on the view of the Sikh member of the Afghan National Assembly that the Muslim population of Afghanistan is generally supportive of Sikhs. It concluded that there is no generalised risk of Article 3 breach:

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Thanks for this information.

I heard basics of sikhi founder Bhai Sahib Jagraj Singh ji say that Jesus was a saint.Is that true?

Can u in brief compare the lives of Muslim prophet and Jesus?

Also shed some light on Moses, Abraham and other prophets of Semitic Faith?

i dnt know too much about them i know basic stuff though 

All the prophets were Hebrews/Jews including Jesus, while Mohammed was Arab, Arabs claim to be descendants of Ismail the 1st son of Abraham.  

The story of the major Prophets is found in the Torah, which is the 5 books of Moses, the Torah is the first part of the Tanakh, which is the Hebrew bible, all together the Tanakh/Hebrew Bible  is made up of several books. With the first 5 (Torah) considered the most important.

The Torah which are the 5 books written by Moses records the stories of the prophets from creation and Adam in the Genesis, the first book, to the story of Moses which concludes in the 5th book  cnt remember what its called now.  After the 5th book of the Torah the story continues through several other book which i dnt know much about but the themes are the same, mainly stories about the Hebrews clashing with other tribes. The main protagonist in these books are minor prophets, kings and judges.

The Hebrew bible is often criticized for its violence, treatment of women and morality. 

So the Bible starts of with god creating Adam, who is banished from the garden into the barren land after he broke Gods command and ate the apple. Once in the wilderness he has 100s of sons and grandsons with his wife Eve! two of his sons Able and Cane fight and one kills the other, the first murder. Adams descendants then spread the globe but are sinners so God decides to wipe them out with a massive flood. 

Noah is told to build an ark and save himself, his family and the animals bla bla bla    and all the descendants of Adam are killed in the flood.  So they believe that present humans are the descendant of Noah. Noah was a drunk and loved drinking wine. Noah was once drunk and sleeping and his cloth blew off and his genitals were exposed, one of his sons started looking and did stuff, the bible doesn't explain what the son did, but Noah wakes up and curses his son for doing what he did. 

Fast story forward, Abraham comes along. Abraham is told by God that he has a "promised land" which will be inhabited by Abrahams descendants. This same "promised land" is what the whole Israel conflict is about today. You can say this is where the tribal behavior of "muslim nations/land"  "jewish land" stems off from, you can see similar notions in the creation of Pakistan as a muslim nation.  But anyway Abraham then marches his people to this "Promised land" which is believed to be modern day Israel. The land was not productive and fights started breaking up between the Hebrews and Abrahams Nephew Lot decided to dump Abraham and move to Sodom with his wife and daughters. Meanwhile Abrhams wife Sarah was getting impatient because she couldn't have children. Abraham is then told by the God that he is gnna blow up the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because the inhabitants are committing sexual sins and the men are gays. Abraham then tells God that his Nephew Lot lives in the city. God then sends his angels to save Lot and his family, as Lot is the only "righteous" man in the city. What follows is one of the most disturbing scenarios in the Bible. So while the angels walk through the city to Lots house to save him b4 God blows the city up, the gay horny men of the city decide to rape the angels. The angels then go into Lots house. The gays then start demanding Lot to hand the angels over so they can rape them. Lot then opens the door and hands his two DAUGHTERS  to the men and tells them they are virgins and can have them instead!! Luckily for the young lasses the men were gays.  Anyway the Angels then blind the gays and escape the city with Lot and his family, god then blows the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah up with fire. 

What follows next is also very disturbing. After the escape Lots daughter decide to have sex with their father, so they drunken him up and have sex with him one after the other and end up pregnant.

After this episode, Abrahams wife is still childless and tells Abraham to have sex with her Egyptian slave girl Haggar instead. Abraham then has sex with Haggar and she gives birth to a son named Ismail, years later Sarah eventually gets pregnant and has a son named Isaac. Sarah then tells Abraham to banish Haggar and her son Ismail into the wilderness which is what Abraham does. Arabs claim to be descendants of Ismail and Muhammed is also a descendant of Ismail. God then tests Abrahams faith and tells him to sacrifice his son Isaac, just b4 Abraham was to cut Isaacs heads off God replaces Isaac with a lamb. This is where the jewish and islamic traditions of animal sacrifice come from. This story is what inspired the muslim fasting and Eid festival. 

Abrahams son Isaac had two sons Jacob and Esau, Jacob had 12 sons including Joseph. Joseph ended up in Egypt where he was popular among the Pharaoh. Joseph then invited the Hebrews to Egypt for better opportunity. The old Pharaoh died and his son was not nice to the Hebrews and decided to make them into slaves and get them to build the pyramids, palaces etc  

Fast story forward, God then chooses Moses to free his people from Egyptian slavery and take them back to the "promised land"   The Pharaoh refuses and then God decides to send the 10 plagues onto the Egyptians. The most barbaric being God kills every first born son of the Egyptians. Would Waheguru ji do that?   After this the Pharaoh decides to free the Hebrews and let them go so Moses along with Joshua guide the Hebrews out of Egypt and towards the "promised land"   The Pharaoh changes his mind and starts chasing after the Hebrews along with his army. The Hebrews reach a dead end, the red sea. God then parts the red sea and the Hebrews walk through it reaching the shore on the other side, the sea then closes up on the Pharaoh and Egyptians chasing them and the Pharaoh and his army drown.      

Moses then climbs mount Sinai and receives the 10 commandments from God, these commandments form the foundation of the 3 Abrahamic faiths. Once Moses comes down the mountain after 40 days with the 10 commandments carved in stone he see's the Hebrews dancing around and worshiping a idol of a golden calf. Moses breaks the stone and orders the killing of his own people, this:

Exodus 32:25-28 (NASB)
Now when Moses saw that the people were out of control—for Aaron had let them get out of control to be a derision among their enemies—then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, “Whoever is for the LORD, come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered together to him. He said to them, “Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, ‘Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.’ ” So the sons of Levi did as Moses instructed, and about three thousand men of the people fell that day.

Now you tell me would our beloved Guru ji order the murder of his own Sikhs even if they have rejected his Dharam?

After this incident Moses and Joshua guiding the Hebrews walk around the Judean desert for 40s yrs looking for the "promised land" till they reach the borders of the land. Moses died b4 he can enter and Joshua takes over.

The Hebrews had been slaves in Egypt for 100s of years and in the meantime and Canaanites had settled in what is the promised land of the Hebrews. God then orders Joshua and the Hebrews to carry out and genocide on the Canaanites:

17 but vyou shall devote them to complete destruction,1 the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded,

17 And the city and all that is within it shall be ndevoted to the Lord for destruction.2 Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she ohid the messengers whom we sent.

After this genocide and destruction the Hebrews move into the city and settle down.

This Theme of God ordering Genocide is quite repetitive in the Hebrew bible:    

Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ – 1 Reigns (1 Samuel) 15:2-3[1]

They warred against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every male…And the people of Israel took captive the women of Midian and their little ones, and they took as plunder all their cattle, their flocks, and all their goods. All their cities in the places where they lived, and all their encampments, they burned with fire, and took all the spoil and all the plunder, both of man and of beast…Moses said to them, “Have you let all the women live? Behold, these, on Balaam’s advice, caused the people of Israel to act treacherously against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and so the plague came among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves. – Numbers 31:7,9-11,15-18

 

This Theme of God ordering the genocide of other tribes, ordering the plunder, and the rape and kidnapping of females from the other tribes continues into the Islamic scriptures. Muhammed did the exact same thing! he ordered the murder of various Jewish tribes and also permitted his followers to keep the women of these tribes. The Quran refers to these women as "what your right hand posses" Muhammed himself had a Christian Coptic girl which Allah permitted him to have sex with. Muhammeds clashes and murder of these Jewish tribes can be found in the Quran and Hadiths. 

You can see where the Muslims get all these things from. 

The idea of slaughtering people who do not belong to your tribe and plundering their wealth, started of with the God of the Hebrew Bible ordering it, these same ideas trickled down into the Islamic scriptures.  And you see Muslims doing the exact same thing today.

As for Christians, the Hebrew Bible is what they call the old testament, while the Gospels, which record the life of Jesus are what they call the New Testament.  The Gospels are quite peaceful from what i know. Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, the Jews rejected this claim and demanded the Romans to crucify him. 

Later the Muslims came. Quran claims that the Jews and Christians have altered the message of God in the Torah and Gosepls and that the Quran is the direct unaltered word of God. Muslims believe in the Hebrew prophets but believe the Jews altered the stories in the Torah. 

What these Muslims are doing to non muslims is no different to the stories you can find in the Abrahamic scriptures. The murdering, plundering and abduction of of others women. 

 

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2 hours ago, proactive said:

The western countries including the UK have been desperately trying to send back both individual and Afghan Sikh families back to Afghanistan even though they are aware that these Sikhs' lives are under threat in Afghanistan. Just this month the European Court of Human Rights dismissed an appeal by an Afghan Sikh family to not be deported from Holland back to Afghanistan. It used a statement that the British embassy had got in a questionnaire to Narinder Singh Khalsa ( who father was assassinated in 2018 ) who is a member of Parliament in Afghanistan. He stated that -;

Q11. In order to show support available for Afghan Sikhs, where are the majority Sikh located in Afghan? And how many of them are there? I am aware that many Afghan Sikh have returned from Pak to Afghan.  
 
A11. The vast majority are located in the provinces of Kabul and Nangahar. 
 
Mr Khalsa went onto explain that their grievances are solely with the Afghan Government for their lack of action on their social, economic and educational welfare and NOT the vast Afghan Muslim community who as a whole he states are very welcoming and supportive. Following the death of his father he received countless messages of condolence from the Muslim community. 

 

How about that for a idiocy? 

 

The ECHR decision states -;

The Strasbourg court noted that Sikhs experience various forms of societal discrimination in Afghanistan, despite the equality protections in the Afghan constitution. But the court also placed great weight on the view of the Sikh member of the Afghan National Assembly that the Muslim population of Afghanistan is generally supportive of Sikhs. It concluded that there is no generalised risk of Article 3 breach:

 

 

 

 

It's sickening that the British government has been in complicit in denying refuge to persecuted afghan Sikhs for decades now. The home office is directly responsible for sending some of these unfortunate souls back to islamic hellhole of afghanistan to be murdered by the sunni salafi muslims.

There needs to be a bigger campaign and outrage here, meanwhile they are have let in islamic jihadi terrorist refugee's from somalia, libya, syria and afghanistan to rape and murder innocent people in france, germany, UK and rest of europe

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It looks like the murderer was a black faced South Indian Muslim from Kerala. One can argue that an Afghan Muslim wouldn't know much about how much support Sikhs have been giving to Muslims in India (saving Kashmiri Muslim women and Kashmiri students) but this guy should have been aware and yet he still committed mass murder. I hope those dhimmi Sikhs in India now open up their eyes and don't waste money and resources on these ungrateful people. 

https://www.khaama.com/abu-khalid-al-hindi-carried-out-the-attack-on-sikh-temple-in-kabul-isis-k-04568/

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Dallah Mor0n Indian Kerala shopkeeper one among four Islamic terrorists involved in terror attack on Sikhs in Kabul

 
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New Delhi: One of the four terrorists involved in the terror attack on Sikhs in Kabul was a 30-year-old shopkeeper who had fled along with 14 other youths from Kerala to join the Islamic State (ISIS) four years ago.

The Islamic State Friday published a photo of Abu Khalid al-Hindi, a suicide attack fighter who was part of the four-member team that attacked a Sikh shrine in Kabul, killing at least 25 members of the minuscule minority community in Afghanistan Wednesday.

Top sources said that al-Hindi was Mohammed Sajid Kuthirulmmal, a shopkeeper from Padne area of Kasargod in Kerala who was wanted in a 2016 NIA case and had an Interpol red notice against him.

The case refers to a parent from Kasaragod, Kerala who lodged a police complaint in July 2016, stating that his 30-year-old son Abdul Rashid was missing along with his wife Ayisha (Sonia Sebastian) and child, for almost two months after they had gone to Mumbai.

Around the same time, 14 other cases of missing people including Sajid were registered by their parents and relatives in the police station of the same area. Preliminary investigation revealed that the missing persons had left India to join Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), a banned pan-Islamist terrorist organisation.

During the investigation by Kerala Police, the role of 29-year-old Yasmeen Mohammad Zahid, a resident of Batla House, Okhla Jamia Nagar, New Delhi but originally from Sitamarhi district of Bihar, as a co-conspirator of Abdul Rashid was revealed. She was arrested August 1, 2016, after she was intercepted at Indira Gandhi International Airport, New Delhi while attempting to exit India for Afghanistan, along with her child.

As per the Kerala police, Yasmeen Mohammad Zahid was actively aiding Abdul Rashid in his activities including raising funds to support ISIS. The case was handed over to the NIA after she was arrested.

The NIA investigation revealed that Abdul Rashid, Yasmeen and others from 2015 were involved in activities to further objectives of the ISIS in Kerala and other places of India. 15 people including Sajid had fled from Kerala, India to join the terror group in Nangarhar province in Afghanistan.

Though the NIA did not file a charge sheet against Sajid, but he was listed as an accused and absconder in the case.

Though the NATO and Afghan forces claim to have killed most ISIS members in Nangarhar, sources believe many may have escaped. Sources said Sajid clearly was one of those who escaped unscathed from Nangarhar.

The mobile communication between the absconders with their relatives, over internet-based social media platforms, recovered during the investigation, established that Sajid was staying at the same place as another ISIS recruit who had fled from Kerala and had joined the terror group along with Abdul Rashid.

IANS

 

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10 minutes ago, proactive said:

It looks like the murderer was a black faced South Indian Muslim from Kerala. One can argue that an Afghan Muslim wouldn't know much about how much support Sikhs have been giving to Muslims in India (saving Kashmiri Muslim women and Kashmiri students) but this guy should have been aware and yet he still committed mass murder. I hope those dhimmi Sikhs in India now open up their eyes and don't waste money and resources on these ungrateful people. 

https://www.khaama.com/abu-khalid-al-hindi-carried-out-the-attack-on-sikh-temple-in-kabul-isis-k-04568/

yup some typical nasty fudhu m0ronic islamic terrorist shopkeeper from filthy islamified hellhole of kerala south india. And we have people from khalsa aid still around like a good subjudgated sikh slave dhimmi's giving away sangats hard earned money while earning a good salary and spending it all on helping non-sikhs. That great PR they think they are achieving for themselves and Sikhs didnt bring in diviends before and wont again either. These sikhs are seen as clowns and a joke by non-Sikhs because they do not stand firm in helping their own community first.

What a state of affairs we have ourselves in.

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Shockingly when British Sikh MP tan dhesi talked about what happened in kabul this absolute m0ron of a British government minister (the white guy) admitted that he didnt even know there was a big terrorist attack on afghan Sikhs in Afghanistan recently. Surely Mi6, GCHQ and all other british intelligence apparatus has been daily briefing the relevant government ministers with whats going on around the world.

 

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2 hours ago, genie said:

Shockingly when British Sikh MP talked about what happened in kabul this <banned word filter activated> of a British government minister admitted that he didnt even know there was a big terrorist attack on afghan Sikhs in Afghanistan recently. Surely Mi6, GCHQ and all other british intelligence apparatus has been daily briefing the relevant government ministers with whats going on around the world.

 

im from the same town as this m0ron   we the ones that voted for him and all hes known for around here is standing up for burkhas/niqabs in the parliament.   our town looks like a shanty town and he decided to bring up burkha/niqab rights up in the parliament instead.  

his mother was involved in the murder of bibi jagir kaurs daughter     all these rich and elite are made of the same stuff 

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5 hours ago, puzzled said:

i dnt know too much about them i know basic stuff though 

All the prophets were Hebrews/Jews including Jesus, while Mohammed was Arab, Arabs claim to be descendants of Ismail the 1st son of Abraham.  

The story of the major Prophets is found in the Torah, which is the 5 books of Moses, the Torah is the first part of the Tanakh, which is the Hebrew bible, all together the Tanakh/Hebrew Bible  is made up of several books. With the first 5 (Torah) considered the most important.

The Torah which are the 5 books written by Moses records the stories of the prophets from creation and Adam in the Genesis, the first book, to the story of Moses which concludes in the 5th book  cnt remember what its called now.  After the 5th book of the Torah the story continues through several other book which i dnt know much about but the themes are the same, mainly stories about the Hebrews clashing with other tribes. The main protagonist in these books are minor prophets, kings and judges.

The Hebrew bible is often criticized for its violence, treatment of women and morality. 

So the Bible starts of with god creating Adam, who is banished from the garden into the barren land after he broke Gods command and ate the apple. Once in the wilderness he has 100s of sons and grandsons with his wife Eve! two of his sons Able and Cane fight and one kills the other, the first murder. Adams descendants then spread the globe but are sinners so God decides to wipe them out with a massive flood. 

Noah is told to build an ark and save himself, his family and the animals bla bla bla    and all the descendants of Adam are killed in the flood.  So they believe that present humans are the descendant of Noah. Noah was a drunk and loved drinking wine. Noah was once drunk and sleeping and his cloth blew off and his genitals were exposed, one of his sons started looking and did stuff, the bible doesn't explain what the son did, but Noah wakes up and curses his son for doing what he did. 

Fast story forward, Abraham comes along. Abraham is told by God that he has a "promised land" which will be inhabited by Abrahams descendants. This same "promised land" is what the whole Israel conflict is about today. You can say this is where the tribal behavior of "muslim nations/land"  "jewish land" stems off from, you can see similar notions in the creation of Pakistan as a muslim nation.  But anyway Abraham then marches his people to this "Promised land" which is believed to be modern day Israel. The land was not productive and fights started breaking up between the Hebrews and Abrahams Nephew Lot decided to dump Abraham and move to Sodom with his wife and daughters. Meanwhile Abrhams wife Sarah was getting impatient because she couldn't have children. Abraham is then told by the God that he is gnna blow up the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah because the inhabitants are committing sexual sins and the men are gays. Abraham then tells God that his Nephew Lot lives in the city. God then sends his angels to save Lot and his family, as Lot is the only "righteous" man in the city. What follows is one of the most disturbing scenarios in the Bible. So while the angels walk through the city to Lots house to save him b4 God blows the city up, the gay horny men of the city decide to rape the angels. The angels then go into Lots house. The gays then start demanding Lot to hand the angels over so they can rape them. Lot then opens the door and hands his two DAUGHTERS  to the men and tells them they are virgins and can have them instead!! Luckily for the young lasses the men were gays.  Anyway the Angels then blind the gays and escape the city with Lot and his family, god then blows the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah up with fire. 

What follows next is also very disturbing. After the escape Lots daughter decide to have sex with their father, so they drunken him up and have sex with him one after the other and end up pregnant.

After this episode, Abrahams wife is still childless and tells Abraham to have sex with her Egyptian slave girl Haggar instead. Abraham then has sex with Haggar and she gives birth to a son named Ismail, years later Sarah eventually gets pregnant and has a son named Isaac. Sarah then tells Abraham to banish Haggar and her son Ismail into the wilderness which is what Abraham does. Arabs claim to be descendants of Ismail and Muhammed is also a descendant of Ismail. God then tests Abrahams faith and tells him to sacrifice his son Isaac, just b4 Abraham was to cut Isaacs heads off God replaces Isaac with a lamb. This is where the jewish and islamic traditions of animal sacrifice come from. This story is what inspired the muslim fasting and Eid festival. 

Abrahams son Isaac had two sons Jacob and Esau, Jacob had 12 sons including Joseph. Joseph ended up in Egypt where he was popular among the Pharaoh. Joseph then invited the Hebrews to Egypt for better opportunity. The old Pharaoh died and his son was not nice to the Hebrews and decided to make them into slaves and get them to build the pyramids, palaces etc  

Fast story forward, God then chooses Moses to free his people from Egyptian slavery and take them back to the "promised land"   The Pharaoh refuses and then God decides to send the 10 plagues onto the Egyptians. The most barbaric being God kills every first born son of the Egyptians. Would Waheguru ji do that?   After this the Pharaoh decides to free the Hebrews and let them go so Moses along with Joshua guide the Hebrews out of Egypt and towards the "promised land"   The Pharaoh changes his mind and starts chasing after the Hebrews along with his army. The Hebrews reach a dead end, the red sea. God then parts the red sea and the Hebrews walk through it reaching the shore on the other side, the sea then closes up on the Pharaoh and Egyptians chasing them and the Pharaoh and his army drown.      

Moses then climbs mount Sinai and receives the 10 commandments from God, these commandments form the foundation of the 3 Abrahamic faiths. Once Moses comes down the mountain after 40 days with the 10 commandments carved in stone he see's the Hebrews dancing around and worshiping a idol of a golden calf. Moses breaks the stone and orders the killing of his own people, this:

Exodus 32:25-28 (NASB)
Now when Moses saw that the people were out of control—for Aaron had let them get out of control to be a derision among their enemies—then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, “Whoever is for the LORD, come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered together to him. He said to them, “Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel, ‘Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.’ ” So the sons of Levi did as Moses instructed, and about three thousand men of the people fell that day.

Now you tell me would our beloved Guru ji order the murder of his own Sikhs even if they have rejected his Dharam?

After this incident Moses and Joshua guiding the Hebrews walk around the Judean desert for 40s yrs looking for the "promised land" till they reach the borders of the land. Moses died b4 he can enter and Joshua takes over.

The Hebrews had been slaves in Egypt for 100s of years and in the meantime and Canaanites had settled in what is the promised land of the Hebrews. God then orders Joshua and the Hebrews to carry out and genocide on the Canaanites:

17 but vyou shall devote them to complete destruction,1 the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded,

17 And the city and all that is within it shall be ndevoted to the Lord for destruction.2 Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she ohid the messengers whom we sent.

After this genocide and destruction the Hebrews move into the city and settle down.

This Theme of God ordering Genocide is quite repetitive in the Hebrew bible:    

Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ – 1 Reigns (1 Samuel) 15:2-3[1]

They warred against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every male…And the people of Israel took captive the women of Midian and their little ones, and they took as plunder all their cattle, their flocks, and all their goods. All their cities in the places where they lived, and all their encampments, they burned with fire, and took all the spoil and all the plunder, both of man and of beast…Moses said to them, “Have you let all the women live? Behold, these, on Balaam’s advice, caused the people of Israel to act treacherously against the Lord in the incident of Peor, and so the plague came among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves. – Numbers 31:7,9-11,15-18

 

This Theme of God ordering the genocide of other tribes, ordering the plunder, and the rape and kidnapping of females from the other tribes continues into the Islamic scriptures. Muhammed did the exact same thing! he ordered the murder of various Jewish tribes and also permitted his followers to keep the women of these tribes. The Quran refers to these women as "what your right hand posses" Muhammed himself had a Christian Coptic girl which Allah permitted him to have sex with. Muhammeds clashes and murder of these Jewish tribes can be found in the Quran and Hadiths. 

You can see where the Muslims get all these things from. 

The idea of slaughtering people who do not belong to your tribe and plundering their wealth, started of with the God of the Hebrew Bible ordering it, these same ideas trickled down into the Islamic scriptures.  And you see Muslims doing the exact same thing today.

As for Christians, the Hebrew Bible is what they call the old testament, while the Gospels, which record the life of Jesus are what they call the New Testament.  The Gospels are quite peaceful from what i know. Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, the Jews rejected this claim and demanded the Romans to crucify him. 

Later the Muslims came. Quran claims that the Jews and Christians have altered the message of God in the Torah and Gosepls and that the Quran is the direct unaltered word of God. Muslims believe in the Hebrew prophets but believe the Jews altered the stories in the Torah. 

What these Muslims are doing to non muslims is no different to the stories you can find in the Abrahamic scriptures. The murdering, plundering and abduction of of others women. 

 

Thanks again

Can u plz tell a bit more about Jesus?

Did he order killing of other tribes and women?

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9 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Thanks for this information.

I heard basics of sikhi founder Bhai Sahib Jagraj Singh ji say that Jesus was a saint.Is that true?

Can u in brief compare the lives of Muslim prophet and Jesus?

Also shed some light on Moses, Abraham and other prophets of Semitic Faith?

In brief, taking it from the perspective of Bani, especially Dasam Granth...

No Ninda is done of Yahawashai, as a Guru would never do Nindia of One such as, while the egotistical shortcomings of others are laid bare. 

Now christians on the other hand.... that's another story and a brutal one full of corruption. 

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    • yeh it's true, we shouldn't be lazy and need to learn jhatka shikaar. It doesn't help some of grew up in surrounding areas like Slough and Southall where everyone thought it was super bad for amrit dharis to eat meat, and they were following Sant babas and jathas, and instead the Singhs should have been normalising jhatka just like the recent world war soldiers did. We are trying to rectifiy this and khalsa should learn jhatka.  But I am just writing about bhog for those that are still learning rehit. As I explained, there are all these negative influences in the panth that talk against rehit, but this shouldn't deter us from taking khanda pahul, no matter what level of rehit we are!
    • How is it going to help? The link is of a Sikh hunter. Fine, but what good does that do the lazy Sikh who ate khulla maas in a restaurant? By the way, for the OP, yes, it's against rehit to eat khulla maas.
    • Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not. Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant?  Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.
    • Seriously?? The Dhadi is trying to be cute. For those who didn't get it, he said: "Some say Maharaj killed bakras (goats). Some say he cut the heads of the Panj Piyaras. The truth is that they weren't goats. It was she-goats (ਬਕਰੀਆਂ). He jhatka'd she-goats. Not he-goats." Wow. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard in relation to Sikhi.
    • Instead of a 9 inch or larger kirpan, take a smaller kirpan and put it (without gatra) inside your smaller turban and tie the turban tightly. This keeps a kirpan on your person without interfering with the massage or alarming the masseuse. I'm not talking about a trinket but rather an actual small kirpan that fits in a sheath (you'll have to search to find one). As for ahem, "problems", you could get a male masseuse. I don't know where you are, but in most places there are professional masseuses who actually know what they are doing and can really relieve your muscle pains.
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