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16 hours ago, proactive said:

There's treating people as human being and there's doling out scarce resources to those who are not only ungrateful but also whose ideology is a clear and present danger. Those moorkh Sikhs protesting against the CAA where actually protesting against a favourable treatment that would have been given to fellow Sikhs who died in Kabul. In essence they have blood on their hands as to them their commitment to being 'woke' was more important than the safety of Sikhs in countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Some of those moorakhs rather than looking at what their actions had done are even now so stubborn that they are doubling down and calling those who have called out their dhimmi actions as spreading 'hatred'! 

The most ironic was that mahan moorkh Amarinder Singh calling on the Afghan president to help the Sikhs massacred in Kabul! He the useful id.iot of the Congress party was the first CM to say that he would not allow the CAA to function in Punjab.. ie he would not allow Afghan Sikhs to have speedy access to asylum and citizenship. Is that your so-called Sikh 'values and practices' in action

Did Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa Bhindranwale make a mistake helping out Hindus and anyone else who did not identify as a Sikh and lived in Punjab when asking for the Anandpur Sahib resolution and helping out individuals from other religions? Prime example is when Sant ji helped out the hindu married woman, who was being harassed by her in laws for more dowry. Did Sant ji make a mistake by doing this? According to your train of thought, Sant ji should have stuck to helping ONLY Sikhs. The CAA excluded muslims. Did the Anandpur Sahib resolution exclude muslims on a secular demand like asking for eradication of starvation and equitable opportunities to wealth? And what about the secular demand of rivers not being redirected to other states? No! So, why would you as a Sikh support a secular amendment that bars Muslims from the same right Sikhs, Hindus, etc are going to receive?

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6 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Did Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa Bhindranwale make a mistake helping out Hindus and anyone else who did not identify as a Sikh and lived in Punjab when asking for the Anandpur Sahib resolution and helping out individuals from other religions? Prime example is when Sant ji helped out the hindu married woman, who was being harassed by her in laws for more dowry. Did Sant ji make a mistake by doing this? According to your train of thought, Sant ji should have stuck to helping ONLY Sikhs. The CAA excluded muslims. Did the Anandpur Sahib resolution exclude muslims on a secular demand like asking for eradication of starvation and equitable opportunities to wealth? And what about the secular demand of rivers not being redirected to other states? No! So, why would you as a Sikh support a secular amendment that bars Muslims from the same right Sikhs, Hindus, etc are going to receive?

Totally false analogy. Firstly it's all about resources and your analogy would work if the there were no pressing issues with Sikhs and hence we had resources to expend on non-Sikhs because otherwise these resources would sit unused. But the fact is that we have so many issues in our community which needs not just the resources we have but probably a hundred times more resources to resolve. There is the drugs issue in Punjab, millions of poverty stricken Sikligars outside Punjab, groundwater depletion in Punjab as well as growing cancer menace. Christian missionaries targeting poor Sikhs there as well. Do you want me to list anymore issues? Surely these issues should be the one we should be tackling and not wasting our scares resources setting up langars in Bangladesh for Rohingyas where in fact the western charities and western countries gave tens of millions in aid. Add to this the millions that Muslim countries and Muslim organisations donated. Now ask yourself could the  money KA expend in Bangladesh not have been used in Punjab or for Sikhs in the rest of India. Can you tell me of one non-Sikh charity organisation that helps Sikhs in India? 

With regard to the Anandpur Sahib resolution, yes the ASR helped non-Sikhs in Punjab as well but that is because it would have helped ALL the people of Punjab of which the majority were Sikh. Let's be honest, if it was SJWs like Ravi Singh in charge of drafting the ASR, it would never have seen the light of day because the ASR is totally contrary to KA's SJW philosophy. Why would the Punjabi farmer not want to give water to Haryana and Rajasthan? Isn't that against the Sikh philosophy of Sarbat Da Bhalla.. don't forget KA and Ravi Singh's version of Sarbat Da Bhalla is more like Horran Da Bhalla because Sikhs do not form a part of  Sarbat for SJWs like him.

Santji helped whosoever approached him, but did put off helping Sikhs who were also suffering by sending his men thousands of miles away to help some non-Sikhs. 

The CAA excluded Muslims because they have 50 odd Muslims countries where they can apply for asylum but the Sikhs from Afghanistan and Pakistan have only adjacent India to come to. They can apply in western countries but this is getting more and more difficult and involves a dangerous trip across Muslim countries and involves being smuggled into Europe in dangerous circumstances. Every country has a right to decide who they want to let in and want to become citizens. Try getting citizenship in a Muslim country and let us know 

It is interesting that even after 25 Sikhs have been massacred in inhuman circumstances and a Gurdwara has been desecrated by a Muslim from India you still want to argue that Sikhs are not doing anything wrong in opposing the CAA and Khalsa Aid should still be wasting the Panth's scarce resources on pointless langars for Rohingyas and other non-Sikhs. In fact I would say you have a very closed mind. 

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1 hour ago, proactive said:

Totally false analogy. Firstly it's all about resources and your analogy would work if the there were no pressing issues with Sikhs and hence we had resources to expend on non-Sikhs because otherwise these resources would sit unused. But the fact is that we have so many issues in our community which needs not just the resources we have but probably a hundred times more resources to resolve. There is the drugs issue in Punjab, millions of poverty stricken Sikligars outside Punjab, groundwater depletion in Punjab as well as growing cancer menace. Christian missionaries targeting poor Sikhs there as well. Do you want me to list anymore issues? Surely these issues should be the one we should be tackling and not wasting our scares resources setting up langars in Bangladesh for Rohingyas where in fact the western charities and western countries gave tens of millions in aid. Add to this the millions that Muslim countries and Muslim organisations donated. Now ask yourself could the  money KA expend in Bangladesh not have been used in Punjab or for Sikhs in the rest of India. Can you tell me of one non-Sikh charity organisation that helps Sikhs in India? 

With regard to the Anandpur Sahib resolution, yes the ASR helped non-Sikhs in Punjab as well but that is because it would have helped ALL the people of Punjab of which the majority were Sikh. Let's be honest, if it was SJWs like Ravi Singh in charge of drafting the ASR, it would never have seen the light of day because the ASR is totally contrary to KA's SJW philosophy. Why would the Punjabi farmer not want to give water to Haryana and Rajasthan? Isn't that against the Sikh philosophy of Sarbat Da Bhalla.. don't forget KA and Ravi Singh's version of Sarbat Da Bhalla is more like Horran Da Bhalla because Sikhs do not form a part of  Sarbat for SJWs like him.

Santji helped whosoever approached him, but did put off helping Sikhs who were also suffering by sending his men thousands of miles away to help some non-Sikhs. 

The CAA excluded Muslims because they have 50 odd Muslims countries where they can apply for asylum but the Sikhs from Afghanistan and Pakistan have only adjacent India to come to. They can apply in western countries but this is getting more and more difficult and involves a dangerous trip across Muslim countries and involves being smuggled into Europe in dangerous circumstances. Every country has a right to decide who they want to let in and want to become citizens. Try getting citizenship in a Muslim country and let us know 

It is interesting that even after 25 Sikhs have been massacred in inhuman circumstances and a Gurdwara has been desecrated by a Muslim from India you still want to argue that Sikhs are not doing anything wrong in supporting the CAA and Khalsa Aid should still be wasting the Panth's scarce resources on pointless langars for Rohingyas and other non-Sikhs. In fact I would say you have a very closed mind. 

Our people have yet to understand the meaning of enlightened self interest. 

How can one help others when we cannot help ourselves. 

 

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3 hours ago, proactive said:

Totally false analogy. Firstly it's all about resources and your analogy would work if the there were no pressing issues with Sikhs and hence we had resources to expend on non-Sikhs because otherwise these resources would sit unused. 

Vaheguru is not limited to who he helps.  His resources are in abundance. Any soul hurting is a pressing issue with the Sikhs. This is why we ask for sarbat da bhalla. You are scared (what will happen to the Sikhs if we don't attend to our wounds first that make us weak), which brings anger (anger is a fight response even though you are not physically fighting anyone your anger may sway other Sikhs to believe your fear mongering) and results in me/us (sikhs first) against them (anyone that needs help and Sikhs can do something for them).  Through Sant ji how many did Vaheguru inspire to give everything to Sikhi?  From Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh ji to Sant Jarnail Singh ji what do they have in common that gives life?  Complete focus on reading, faith, understanding of Gurbani.   We Sikhs lack this very unique ingredient today. Even the Singhs that were in the fight against the governments, and survived 1984 attacks and genocide of the Sikhs have lost faith in Gurbani.  Had these Singhs kept their faith in Gurbani the second wave to catch control of delhi would have been accomplished.  There is always a huge price to pay when losing faith in Gurbani.  Blood sacrifice, animal sacrifice,  devi worship, greed, worldly power, etc has crept back into Sikhs greatly(only sikh by appearance).  This has turned Sikhs into the new pandits,  and unfortunately these guys have control of the major institutions of the Sikhs.  What is the point of Holla Mohalla if you can't actually fight the oppressors today.  Today ISI (the mughal forces) would slaughter the Nihangs in the battlefield. RSS will slaughter nihangs in the battlefield. Swords are no match for bombs and automatic weapons. Sadly a 22 rifle could put down a Nihang with his sword.  They know this but will never admit it because they are egotistical.  If you want to get real, then call a spade a spade.  Frankly Nihangs are scared to fight and/or they are caught up in collecting worldly power.  

Khalsa Aid is atleast helping humans that need help.  What is dhumma doing with his deep pockets?  What about nanaksar with their deep pockets?  What about the nihangs with their deep pockets?  Babas are flying around in helicopters while the average Sikhs are filling their stomach with urea disguised as milk.  They call themselves the caretakers but all they do is increase their dynasties.  If you trust the elite Sikhs so much.  Go down to your local Gurdwara and tell them to release their financial papers for the last year so you can see how much money they made and how it was spent.  They are your Sikh brothers. why wouldn't they give up the paper work in a heart beat! Again let's be real, they will push you aside like a low caste because they fear losing control of a money maker business. 

Sant ji wanted the betterment of humanity and this is showed through his actions as I explained.  He did not say, Sikhs first then others.  You have no historical reason to say Sant ji did not send off Sikhs to help others.  The fact is he helped non Sikhs.  Had Sant ji gone to foreign lands, he would not hesitate to help.  This is proven in the interview sant ji had with a pandit.  The pandit said he would cry if he saw a baby being murdered.  Sant ji says, it's not in our nature to cry.  I would do whatever it takes to save that baby.  Sant ji didn't respond by saying, first I will ask if it's a sikh baby or not. 

The CAA did not exclude muslims because they can apply else where.  India hates muslims, so they excluded them.  Yesterday Sikhs were being targeted for slaughter  by India's sword and today its muslims.  How easily you have forgotten my sikh brother.  Hang your head in shame.  How quickly you have jumped on modi bandwagon.  Don't worry modi is coming for what you hold close to your heart, it's only a matter of time.  

One muslim or a group of muslims killing Sikhs does not mean all muslims are going to kill Sikhs. 

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Our people have yet to understand the meaning of enlightened self interest. 

How can one help others when we cannot help ourselves. 

 

You can't help anyone?  Are you  homeless?  Without a penny in your torn Jean's?  Well you young uncles wear torn Jean's because its fashionable. Are you not full to the brim with Gurbani and live by: 

ਧੌਲੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਦਇਆ ਕਾ ਪੂਤੁ ॥
ਧਰਮ-ਰੂਪੀ ਬੱਝਵਾਂ ਨੀਯਮ ਹੀ ਬਲਦ ਹੈ (ਜੋ ਸ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਟੀ ਨੂੰ ਕਾਇਮ ਰੱਖ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ)। (ਇਹ ਧਰਮ) ਦਇਆ ਦਾ ਪੁੱਤਰ ਹੈ ।
The mythical bull is Dharma, the son of compassion;

ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਥਾਪਿ ਰਖਿਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਸੂਤਿ ॥
ਇਸ ਧਰਮ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੀ ਮਰਯਾਦਾ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਨੂੰ ਜਨਮ ਦੇ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੈ।
this is what patiently holds the earth in its place. Ang 3

In fact you are homeless because you have lost faith in Guru Sahib; your words speak loud and clear.  Sikhs got together and protested injustice being handed out by the indian government to the muslims and you few are crying and whining. The reason we are in the state we are currently in, is because of all the whining people like you  do.  

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2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Our people have yet to understand the meaning of enlightened self interest. 

How can one help others when we cannot help ourselves. 

 

With a name like Ran=bride of Akal Purakh maybe you would have jeet=victory, if you actually became the bride of Akal Purakh by following Gurbani on ang 3.

ਧੌਲੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਦਇਆ ਕਾ ਪੂਤੁ ॥ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਥਾਪਿ ਰਖਿਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਸੂਤਿ 

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13 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

You can't help anyone?  Are you  homeless?  Without a penny in your torn Jean's?  Well you young uncles wear torn Jean's because its fashionable. Are you not full to the brim with Gurbani and live by: 

ਧੌਲੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਦਇਆ ਕਾ ਪੂਤੁ ॥
ਧਰਮ-ਰੂਪੀ ਬੱਝਵਾਂ ਨੀਯਮ ਹੀ ਬਲਦ ਹੈ (ਜੋ ਸ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਟੀ ਨੂੰ ਕਾਇਮ ਰੱਖ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ)। (ਇਹ ਧਰਮ) ਦਇਆ ਦਾ ਪੁੱਤਰ ਹੈ ।
The mythical bull is Dharma, the son of compassion;

ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਥਾਪਿ ਰਖਿਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਸੂਤਿ ॥
ਇਸ ਧਰਮ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੀ ਮਰਯਾਦਾ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਨੂੰ ਜਨਮ ਦੇ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੈ।
this is what patiently holds the earth in its place. Ang 3

In fact you are homeless because you have lost faith in Guru Sahib; your words speak loud and clear.  Sikhs got together and protested injustice being handed out by the indian government to the muslims and you few are crying and whining. The reason we are in the state we are currently in, is because of all the whining people like you  do.  

You are waffling.

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5 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

With a name like Ran=bride of Akal Purakh maybe you would have jeet=victory, if you actually became the bride of Akal Purakh by following Gurbani on ang 3.

ਧੌਲੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਦਇਆ ਕਾ ਪੂਤੁ ॥ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਥਾਪਿ ਰਖਿਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਸੂਤਿ 

Help your own quam first then you are help others.

When you are in a plane and there is an emergency they tell you to put your mask on first before helping someone else with theirs. 

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6 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Help your own quam first then you are help others.

When you are in a plane and there is an emergency they tell you to put your mask on first before helping someone else with theirs. 

Tell Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji,  he should have first helped his quam.  Or tell Sant ji.  That's right, you don't follow Sikhi teachings.

Is your plane going down in this very instance?  Some one call the local emergency response for this uncle.  Learn how to make analogies.  Go to school and stay away from the bad uncles who are up to no good; always in the langar hall bickering.

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