Has any islamic organisation condemed the attack on Afghan Sikhs in afghanistan?

[Akalifauj]

49 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Tell me if someone was raping your sister and you had to defend your sister by killing the assailant,  what would you do it?

Is it an evil thought to do the righteous thing and kill that person or would you be looking at gurbani scriptures to figure out what the right thing to do?

Now to save face you are changing what you said.  This is what cowards do.  You wrote

"Sometimes to uphold dharma, adharma must be done unfortunately. " to a post which supported the killing and forceful removal of innocent people to drive them out of punjab in 1947.  Key word here innocent.  When I brought up Sant ji response to a baby being murdered in front of him and he will save the baby is what Gurbani teaches and it's not adharma.  I wrote this response to your half brain partner @proactive and you wrote a comment.  It's disgusting how you dirty uncles conduct yourselves here. 

[Ranjeet01]

3 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Now to save face you are changing what you said.  This is what cowards do.  You wrote

"Sometimes to uphold dharma, adharma must be done unfortunately. " to a post which supported the killing and forceful removal of innocent people to drive them out of punjab in 1947.  Key word here innocent.  When I brought up Sant ji response to a baby being murdered in front of him and he will save the baby is what Gurbani teaches and it's not adharma.  I wrote this response to your half brain partner @proactive and you wrote a comment.  It's disgusting how you dirty uncles conduct yourselves here. 

If we did nothing, we would be extinct.

There would be no Sikhs left. It came to our survival as a quam.

It is not desirable nor was it something that anyone wanted to do but it had to be done.

You don't like the answers I gave you, only in your filtered mind you think is about saving face but that is the reality of life. 

You are clearly young, naive indoctrinated SJW and you have not dealt with the hardships of life.

One day, life will kick you in the balls and it will be a hard kick in the balls and you will realise what us half brains been telling you.

Until that day comes..

 

[genie]

49 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

If we did nothing, we would be extinct.

There would be no Sikhs left. It came to our survival as a quam.

It is not desirable nor was it something that anyone wanted to do but it had to be done.

You don't like the answers I gave you, only in your filtered mind you think is about saving face but that is the reality of life. 

You are clearly young, naive indoctrinated SJW and you have not dealt with the hardships of life.

One day, life will kick you in the balls and it will be a hard kick in the balls and you will realise what us half brains been telling you.

Until that day comes..

 

Sadly the SWJ type of Sikhs haven't used common sense and read Sikh ithihaas properly they read only sugar coated stuff. They seem to think Sikhs sat around a fire with everyone holding hands singing komb by ya.

Bit like how most ignorant arrogent muslim nationalists go around preaching islam is the best trying to convert others with falsehood but yet they havent read any of their quranic ayats or hadiths that expose the true backward nature of islam. And when knowledge non-muslims show and read it to them for the first time they tend to shut up and backtrack running away with tail between their legs.

Our Sikhs need to acknowledge true dark gory history that yes atrocities were committed by our side too at times but it was done so in times were we were fighting for our very survival after suffering extreme persecution and oppression by the various invader enemies. And if it came to our survival or getting rolled over by living totally up to Sikh principles all the time then yes Sikhs wouldn't exist right now we'd be in the history books especially when 1947 happened for sure.

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, genie said:

this is what the british imperialist establishment used to eventually subdue the Sikhs of khalsa raj first militarily using traitorous agents then indoctrination telling occupied punjab sikhs they were helpless and then using Sikhi as a way to steer war wanting Sikhs to become baptised khalsa for the british indian army only not for safeguarding their religion and land. And then the indian establishment did the same to make Sikhs docile. It was only during 80s/90s that Sikhs woke up from the slumber and thought to themselves hang on why we getting treated like 2nd class citizens and letting non-sikhs telling us what to do in our own land and started a serious fight back to regain lost political sovereignty.

 

I think there is something intrinsic in specific people that make them less susceptible to brainwashing too. Look at Sohan Singh Bhakna compared to other sepoys from that period. A sort of robust mental constitution and a deep innate hatred of being fooled into subservience even if rewarded for it. Some people are easier to tame and break than others. Some are a lot more easier to manipulate as well. Some will go along for a fist full of gold (or a LOT less with many apnay). Some can't be outsiders under any circumstances. Many are terrified with any physical consequences this may have upon them. 

But this same impulse for avoiding enslavement, when gone too far, can take weaker minds into weirdo territory too. People seeing conspiracies everywhere, and having problems with being grounded in reality. 

[dallysingh101]

10 minutes ago, genie said:

Sadly the SWJ type of Sikhs haven't used common sense and read Sikh ithihaas properly they read only sugar coated stuff.

What do you expect when we had such a powerful movement that totally reconstructed Sikh ithihaas during colonialism, with hordes of our people buying into it? That's why anti-DG people don't surprise me. I know why they are that way.   

[Ranjeet01]

16 hours ago, genie said:

Sadly the SWJ type of Sikhs haven't used common sense and read Sikh ithihaas properly they read only sugar coated stuff. They seem to think Sikhs sat around a fire with everyone holding hands singing komb by ya.

Bit like how most ignorant arrogent muslim nationalists go around preaching islam is the best trying to convert others with falsehood but yet they havent read any of their quranic ayats or hadiths that expose the true backward nature of islam. And when knowledge non-muslims show and read it to them for the first time they tend to shut up and backtrack running away with tail between their legs.

Our Sikhs need to acknowledge true dark gory history that yes atrocities were committed by our side too at times but it was done so in times were we were fighting for our very survival after suffering extreme persecution and oppression by the various invader enemies. And if it came to our survival or getting rolled over by living totally up to Sikh principles all the time then yes Sikhs wouldn't exist right now we'd be in the history books especially when 1947 happened for sure.

The problem with  reading itihaas  is that sometimes it does not give a complete picture. It tends to be an interpretation of the writer who may have their own particular biases. 

It can miss a lot of context that sometimes reading does not always cover.

Life is not completed black and white,  there are shades of grey.

When you go to Gurdwarae and see what forefathers had to endure through paintings, because it is 2D it does not give a complete picture. 

A few years ago, I went to Mendiana Gurdwara (in Malwa not far from Ludhiana I think). They had these lifesize models and it painted a far more complete picture then some of these paintings did. They had these lifesize models in re-enacted battles with soldiers with limbs missing. 

It wasn't pretty but it tells you how brutal it got.

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Life is not completed black and white,  there are shades of grey.

I think Akaal Ustat really drives this point home myself. 

[Big_Tera]

https://www.islamicity.org/24717/american-muslim-indians-condemn-attack-on-sikhs-in-kabul/

[dallysingh101]

Quote

“There are over 100 families of Pakistani Sikhs living in Khanna, 30-odd families in Amritsar and several in Jalandhar who came in 1995 or 1999. We have not been given Indian citizenship despite repeated requests. Every year, we have to get visas for our family extended and face harassment from police. Also, in educational institutions our children are called Pakistanis and discriminated against. We cannot marry off our children, especially daughters as we are from Pakistan,” said Saran Singh who runs a scrap shop in Amritsar. He migrated to India in 1999 from Peshawar.

Sort this out!!!!!

[genie]

34 minutes ago, Big_Tera said:

https://www.islamicity.org/24717/american-muslim-indians-condemn-attack-on-sikhs-in-kabul/

All i've seen is condemnation from well meaning individual humanitarian muslims. An ahmediya religious org (who are considered non-muslim heritics anyways). And that's about it

disgraceful and shameful that no religious salafi / sunni ulama of pakistan, india or arab lands has spoken out or issued fatwa's to probit such acts or find those responsible and punish them. So we can draw conclusions from that they think its ok its islamically fine to murder our innocent Sikh men, women and kids attack the sanctuary of our guru's home.