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On 3/28/2020 at 10:47 PM, dallysingh101 said:

If so, and the rural masses can get their own sons and daughters to work their lands like they used to (instead of relying on out of state labour), it might be a great thing societally for Panjab and Sikhs. 

and might actually up the sikhi demography again in punjab . right now we're staring at 56% or lesser

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Punjab has become an attractive state for migration especially given that unlike in other states there is no opposition to these migrants settling and buying land in Punjab.

Below are the figures for the places of birth of people resident in Punjab during the 2011 census. On rough figures 89% of the people of Punjab are born in the state. Of those born in states like Delhi, UP and Bihar many thousands of these may be Sikh migrants who left these states after 1984 genocide. But the places of birth do to tell the full picture because the migrant labourers now have their families with them so many tens of thousands of their children are born in Punjab so they are included in the born within state of enumeration. 

From the figures below it is likely that at least 15% of the total population of Punjab is made up of migrants 

State - PUNJAB    Total Population    27,743,338
State - PUNJAB    Born within India    27,421,360
State - PUNJAB    Within the state of enumeration    24,860,023
State - PUNJAB    Born in the place of enumeration    14,246,114
State - PUNJAB    Born elsewhere in the district of enumeration    6,589,734
State - PUNJAB    Born in other districts of the state    4,024,175
State - PUNJAB    States in India beyond the state of enumeration    2,561,337
State - PUNJAB    Jammu & Kashmir    65,886
State - PUNJAB    Himachal Pradesh    229,077
State - PUNJAB    Punjab    0
State - PUNJAB    Chandigarh    121,402
State - PUNJAB    Uttarakhand    62,588
State - PUNJAB    Haryana    552,369
State - PUNJAB    NCT of Delhi    43,481
State - PUNJAB    Rajasthan    205,259
State - PUNJAB    Uttar Pradesh    693,328
State - PUNJAB    Bihar    375,507
State - PUNJAB    Sikkim    216
State - PUNJAB    Arunachal Pradesh    319
State - PUNJAB    Nagaland    454
State - PUNJAB    Manipur    864
State - PUNJAB    Mizoram    290
State - PUNJAB    Tripura    399
State - PUNJAB    Meghalaya    442
State - PUNJAB    Assam    11,441
State - PUNJAB    West Bengal    50,550
State - PUNJAB    Jharkhand    21,685
State - PUNJAB    Odisha    13,203
State - PUNJAB    Chhattisgarh    8,636
State - PUNJAB    Madhya Pradesh    34,892
State - PUNJAB    Gujarat    8,726
State - PUNJAB    Daman & Diu    5
State - PUNJAB    Dadra & Nagar Haveli    5
State - PUNJAB    Maharashtra    33,142
State - PUNJAB    Andhra Pradesh    8,184
State - PUNJAB    Karnataka    4,477
State - PUNJAB    Goa    316
State - PUNJAB    Lakshadweep    164
State - PUNJAB    Kerala    7,296
State - PUNJAB    Tamil Nadu    6,242
State - PUNJAB    Puducherry    259
State - PUNJAB    Andaman & Nicobar Islands    233
State - PUNJAB    Born Outside India    320,751
State - PUNJAB    Countries in Asia beyond India    303,759
State - PUNJAB    Afganistan    102
State - PUNJAB    Bangladesh    589
State - PUNJAB    Bhutan    42
State - PUNJAB    China    306
State - PUNJAB    Indonesia    129
State - PUNJAB    Iran    44
State - PUNJAB    Iraq    21
State - PUNJAB    Japan    14
State - PUNJAB    Kuwait    137
State - PUNJAB    Malaysia    553
State - PUNJAB    Maldives    0
State - PUNJAB    Mayanmar    870
State - PUNJAB    Nepal    30,227
State - PUNJAB    Pakistan    264,711
State - PUNJAB    Saudi Arabia    29
State - PUNJAB    Singapore    424
State - PUNJAB    Sri Lanka    72
State - PUNJAB    Turkey    2
State - PUNJAB    United Arab Emirates    515
State - PUNJAB    Kazakstan    1
State - PUNJAB    Vietnam    4
State - PUNJAB    Elsewhere    4,967
State - PUNJAB    Countries in Europe    3,340
State - PUNJAB    France    16
State - PUNJAB    Germany    208
State - PUNJAB    Portugal    13
State - PUNJAB    UK    617
State - PUNJAB    Elsewhere    2,486
State - PUNJAB    Countries in Africa    2,522
State - PUNJAB    Kenya    116
State - PUNJAB    Mauritius    9
State - PUNJAB    Nigeria    8
State - PUNJAB    Uganda    12
State - PUNJAB    Zambia    3
State - PUNJAB    Elsewhere    2,374
State - PUNJAB    Countries in the Americas    8,491
State - PUNJAB    Canada    1,261
State - PUNJAB    U.S.A.    834
State - PUNJAB    Elsewhere    6,396
State - PUNJAB    Countries in Oceania    2,639
State - PUNJAB    Australia    593
State - PUNJAB    Fiji    12
State - PUNJAB    Elsewhere    2,034
State - PUNJAB    Unclassifiable    1,227
 

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Demographic replacement. Another long-term Indian ploy. Create an environment for Sikhs where they can't excel, forcing them to leave their lands, while simultaneously shipping in a workforce who'll take up the slack and occupy the roles vacated by the native population. Eventually, push will come to shove when the migrant population reaches a critical mass and they begin demanding more and more concessions and rights, and then you'll see "riots" when the reality finally dawns on Sikhs, by which time it will be too late. In the interests of fairness, Sikhs don't make it easy on themselves. The fact that they can't see what I've described above as something that will play out over the course of decades, is an unfortunate indictment on their intelligence. Nipping something in the bud before it has a chance to sprout is infinitely preferable to arresting an inevitability that cannot be reversed. 

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a lot of them have started speaking punjabi and their kids born in punjab also speak punjabi, is that not ok? 

like a lot of those gypsies, im not sure what they are but the ladies dress like rajasthani ladies and they live in tents in fields, most of them speak Punjabi now    they call them gadiyan walle.   

as long as they assimilate is it not ok?  or a i missing something here?  

one problem with these migrants is the crime. 

where my nanke are from congress governments built them a colony where 100s live. 

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18 minutes ago, puzzled said:

a lot of them have started speaking punjabi and their kids born in punjab also speak punjabi, is that not ok? 

like a lot of those gypsies, im not sure what they are but the ladies dress like rajasthani ladies and they live in tents in fields, most of them speak Punjabi now    they call them gadiyan walle.   

as long as they assimilate is it not ok?  or a i missing something here?  

one problem with these migrants is the crime. 

where my nanke are from congress governments built them a colony where 100s live. 

When their young males begin to "intermingle" with Sikh females of a similar age at colleges and schools, how do you see that going down? Unless they literally become Sikhs, which isn't happening, it's a huge problem. It's a Buddhist Vs Rohingya situation in the making, mark my words.

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2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

When their young males begin to "intermingle" with Sikh females of a similar age at colleges and schools, how do you see that going down? Unless they literally become Sikhs, which isn't happening, it's a huge problem. It's a Buddhist Vs Rohingya situation in the making, mark my words.

idnno  i cant see that happening on a big scale,  end of the day they are still bhaiyas in their eyes. people arent even allowed to marry out of their castes let alone marry a bhaiya     

and because of their darker skin and smaller physique i doubt it females would be queuing up for them. you can spot a migrant worker in punjab from miles away.

it will probably happen on a smaller scale but not become something out of control

biggest problem will be when they refuse to assimilate, and unite and ask for more rights  like you wrote above 

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