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18 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

How is this relevant to the topic?

Calm your farm and focus on the points being discussed.

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1 hour ago, JSinghnz said:

How is this relevant to the topic?

Calm your farm and focus on the points being discussed.

it is relevant because it is tied in with langar/feeding drives that our people get super emotional about and literally clap their own emptying grain stores. Then this is true result of that sacrifice  ...

 

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9 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Keep looking, Sant ji clearly says it in a speech.

 That book is a collection of his speeches and that is the only incident that he has mentioned in his speeches with slight variations sometimes the idol was installed and in another it was a Mandir. It is up to you to bring forward the speech, if it  exists where you claimed Santji built a Mandir in a village because the Hindus did not have one otherwise you are just another a SJW liar who is quite happy to spead falsehood about Santji in order to justify your own SJW agenda. The one I found is totally counter to what you presented.

Your attempt to turn Santji into another SJW to justify your own agenda has failed. In fact its clear that Santji understood that the installing of an idol was useless and it would have been better to have bought a gun. The idol was also installed not on the instruction of Santji but by one of his followers who Santji said was soft hearted. 

 

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9 hours ago, JSinghnz said:

How is this relevant to the topic?

Calm your farm and focus on the points being discussed.

This is very relevant to the topic and what is that with the 'calm your farm' comment? What is it with some people who cannot discuss an issue without bring caste into it?

This is about our aimless altruist SJW literally emptying their own homes of food trying to live up to the SJW version of sarbat da Bhalla without understand that sarbat also included themselves and their families and their community. I can understand how people like you don't want the truth to some out because for you and others of your ilk false publicity and false praise from non-Sikhs online is worth more than saving Sikh lives. 

JKVLondon has also highlighted one biggest issue at hand now which is what will happen with the lockdown to the livelihood of not just the Punjabi farmers but the Punjabi farm labourers if the harvest is massively affected. I know people like you have zilch knowledge about what agriculture is and think that atta is made in some factory and then you just go and buy it in a shop! Read what happened in the Bengal famine in the 1940s when food meant of the people was diverted to the British war effort.

The Punjab govt is emptying it's grain stores to supply other states while the state could suffer food shortages in the next few months depending on how long the lockdown lasts. 

This could turn out into something similar to what happened earlier this year when the Italians donated millions in medical supplies to China to help it battle the virus and now that the roles are reversed these same medical supplies are now being sent back to Italy after having sold back to that country by China!

Also there is nothing more arrogant that someone claiming that someone else's contribution is not relevant. Who are the hell are you to claim that, if you don't like someone's contribution then don't comment on it. 

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2 hours ago, proactive said:

 That book is a collection of his speeches and that is the only incident that he has mentioned in his speeches with slight variations sometimes the idol was installed and in another it was a Mandir. It is up to you to bring forward the speech, if it  exists where you claimed Santji built a Mandir in a village because the Hindus did not have one otherwise you are just another a SJW liar who is quite happy to spead falsehood about Santji in order to justify your own SJW agenda. The one I found is totally counter to what you presented.

Your attempt to turn Santji into another SJW to justify your own agenda has failed. In fact its clear that Santji understood that the installing of an idol was useless and it would have been better to have bought a gun. The idol was also installed not on the instruction of Santji but by one of his followers who Santji said was soft hearted. 

 

sorry  but no the gurdwara and mandir was built for prisoners remember it say hindu petty criminals were crying  not a village . He responded to the needs of a group in captivity , I don't think he would have bought an idol otherwise because there loads of mandirs over Punjab.

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8 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

sorry  but no the gurdwara and mandir was built for prisoners remember it say hindu petty criminals were crying  not a village . He responded to the needs of a group in captivity , I don't think he would have bought an idol otherwise because there loads of mandirs over Punjab.

The idol was bought by one of his followers Baba Thara Singh who Santji said was soft hearted and who Santji said he had told that if he (Thara Singh) had bought a gun instead with the money then it would have been more useful. Baba Thara Singh was in Gurdaspur jail at the time and he acted without seeking instructions from Santji. So it wasn't Santji that installed the idol for the Hindus in jail. However, Santji did compensate a Hindu whose shop had been burned  as well as pay for legal action against those who had desecrated the Ramayan. 

So as we can see rather than Santji going around villages building Mandirs as alleged by this Akalifauj guy, the opposite is true. It's amazing how these SJW leftist liberals will bend and twist the actions of Gursikhs in order to further their SJW agenda. The story of the idol in the jail is very instructive and shows up the lies of these SJWs. Do you think Santji if they were around today would agree with the work of Khalsa Aid? Would he agree with them expending the limited resources of the Panth in setting up pointless langars in places with others are already spending millions of pounds?  While Sikhs are in dire need of help themselves would he agree with Ravi Singh and his self promotion activities? Santji said that it would have been better if Baba Thara Singh had spent the money on a gun instead. Why? because then the money would have been spent on defending the Panth from the government and not on an idol which would be on no use and given that the Panth was under attack then the Panth needed guns and not feel good aimless altruism of installing idols for Hindus. 

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15 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

case in point , in Gujrat our truck drivers are stuck with no food or water , but we are more concerned with other people first

https://www.facebook.com/All.Sikh.Kudiyan/photos/a.466450426785926/2765555483542064/?type=3&theater

 

They have been provided with food and water now.

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2 minutes ago, proactive said:

The idol was bought by one of his followers Baba Thara Singh who Santji said was soft hearted and who Santji said he had told that if he (Thara Singh) had bought a gun instead with the money then it would have been more useful. Baba Thara Singh was in Gurdaspur jail at the time and he acted without seeking instructions from Santji. So it wasn't Santji that installed the idol for the Hindus in jail. However, Santji did compensate a Hindu whose shop had been burned  as well as pay for legal action against those who had desecrated the Ramayan. 

So as we can see rather than Santji going around villages building Mandirs as alleged by this Akalifauj guy, the opposite is true. It's amazing how these SJW leftist liberals will bend and twist the actions of Gursikhs in order to further their SJW agenda. The story of the idol in the jail is very instructive and shows up the lies of these SJWs. Do you think Santji if they were around today would agree with the work of Khalsa Aid? Would he agree with them expending the limited resources of the Panth in setting up pointless langars in places with others are already spending millions of pounds?  While Sikhs are in dire need of help themselves would he agree with Ravi Singh and his self promotion activities? Santji said that it would have been better if Baba Thara Singh had spent the money on a gun instead. Why? because then the money would have been spent on defending the Panth from the government and not on an idol which would be on no use and given that the Panth was under attack then the Panth needed guns and not feel good aimless altruism of installing idols for Hindus. 

Sant ji was always scathing of sikhs looking to be rescued by others , he said khalsa should be looking after kaum's needs firstmost then helping others , it was never let's go sort out the muslim's  problems first, the hindu's problems first it was deal with the necessary first for the continuing safety and health of the panth. He would I have told you what to do, now do it  don't come afterwards and complain something has happened . I will not be here always

It is the height of blind arrogance to think 20 million of the Indians can rescue/protect/feed the other 1.5 billion

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2 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

They have been provided with food and water now.

was it a sirsa 'rescue' or local people?

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20 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

was it a sirsa 'rescue' or local people?

They are being provided food and water from the canteen of the cattle feed factory where these trucks are stationed. Local people run that factory.

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23 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

They have been provided with food and water now.

some related vids from drivers they make some points which we have touched on:

 

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

some related vids from drivers they make some points which we have touched on:

 

The crux of the matter is Sikhs have only done Langar not Prachar. Had both gone together we would have been able to convince people who partake Langar became Sikhs. But this hasn't happened and as a result our numbers are dwindling day by day.

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10 hours ago, proactive said:

 That book is a collection of his speeches and that is the only incident that he has mentioned in his speeches with slight variations sometimes the idol was installed and in another it was a Mandir. It is up to you to bring forward the speech, if it  exists where you claimed Santji built a Mandir in a village because the Hindus did not have one otherwise you are just another a SJW liar who is quite happy to spead falsehood about Santji in order to justify your own SJW agenda. The one I found is totally counter to what you presented.

Your attempt to turn Santji into another SJW to justify your own agenda has failed. In fact its clear that Santji understood that the installing of an idol was useless and it would have been better to have bought a gun. The idol was also installed not on the instruction of Santji but by one of his followers who Santji said was soft hearted. 

 

Why did Sant ji help a hindu shopkeeper?  Why did Sant ji help a hindu wife who was being harassed by the in laws.  Why did Sri HarGobind sahib walk out with 52 rajas and not by himself when he was allowed too? Why did Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji give his head for hindu pandits?  

Keep searching Sant ji speech is there.

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