What will Western Sikhs do when the whip-hand becomes Islamic in the next few decades?

[MisterrSingh]

If birth rates continue as the they are, and the default immigrant experience is shaped according to the representatives of the largest minority, do you people ever envisage a moment where you'll say, "Enough is enough. This situation is not looking good for us." Or will you meekly shrug your shoulders and hope the powers-that-be won't exploit you too much. Are you thinking what type of world your children, and their children, will be born into, or are you easily shamed into silence and compliance by the corrupt press and the media when they start throwing around words such as "conspiracies" and "Islamophobia"?

Ironically, even the Muslim is a pawn in all of this. A weapon. But before Islam and its adherents will be discarded once they've served their purpose, they will have cast a dark shadow on this entire world. 

Any plans, or just hope for the best? 

[AkalkiFauj]

In one topic, Bhai Jagraj Singh ji said to have loads of kids.

[genie]

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

If birth rates continue as the they are, and the default immigrant experience is shaped according to the representatives of the largest minority, do you people ever envisage a moment where you'll say, "Enough is enough. This situation is not looking good for us." Or will you meekly shrug your shoulders and hope the powers-that-be won't exploit you too much. Are you thinking what type of world your children, and their children, will be born into, or are you easily shamed into silence and compliance by the corrupt press and the media when they start throwing around words such as "conspiracies" and "Islamophobia"?

Ironically, even the Muslim is a pawn in all of this. A weapon. But before Islam and its adherents will be discarded once they've served their purpose, they will have cast a dark shadow on this entire world. 

Any plans, or just hope for the best? 

The afghan, pakistani and kashmiri Sikhs are the canaries in the coal mine for the Sikh panth. That is our future subjugated by mullahwad thugs who in turn are in pay of their national political ruling masters who in turn are puppets to western banksters. Never mind the brahminwad hindutva mice from india the sunni/salafi qazi's / molvi's / mullahs are many times worse and intolerant than brahminwad lot. So this will all come true unless we abandon swj langari fake sarbat da bhala ideology and focus on sikh centric ideologies on strengthening our kaum and pushing the frontiers and taking chunks out of sunni salafi islamic ideology. We can't fight them physically at the moment but we can fight their ideology intellectually.

Atheism is doing a great job attack orthodox islam and making alot of muslims question their faith and leave islam secretly and publicly, you can see this on youtube. It is a big deal for islam when muslims leave islam for Sikhs we dont really care if someone becomes atheist or another faith but for islam's clergy every muslim who leaves islam is a disaster for them. Sikhs have opportunity to hoover up the ex-muslim atheists or let them at least be Sikh friendly in outlook. Alot of brave ex-muslim afghan's and pakistani's have left islam under great risk to themselves. So islam's foundations are not so secure it only is able to maintain its grip over muslim minds by fear and that strategy wont last as muslims start to question more about the the dodgy scriptures like hadiths.

[puzzled]

why have britian invited so many muslims? what is the motive/purpose?

religions start to decline after they have served their political purpose  look what happened to Christianity in the west    a lot of ex muslims reckon islam will start going down hill around 50 yrs from now 

[genie]

3 minutes ago, puzzled said:

why have britian invited so many muslims? what is the motive/purpose?

religions start to decline after they have served their political purpose  look what happened to Christianity in the west    a lot of ex muslims reckon islam will start going down hill around 50 yrs from now 

If we look when muslims started coming to the UK it was around the 1840s during the expansion of the british empire into muslim occupied lands. So there was a trading economic cultural exchange going on alot of the early muslims in the UK were sailors. Then we had the world wars break out so we had muslim soldiers from the british empire colonies coming over. And then in the 1960/70s we had south asian muslims migrate come over with their families to work and settle in for the long term. It was during the 1960s-90s period that was the biggest mass migration of muslims mostly from south asia into the UK alot of the 90s/2000's muslims were as political refugee's from somalia, iraq/arab countries.

The purpose of allowing them i'm guessing was mostly economic and trade. They were alot cheaper than local indigenous christian white work force and were willing to do jobs that the working class white natives weren't really willing to do because it was mostly menial and low paid work and they could make that money from claiming benefits.

Don't think there was a huge conspiracy to bring muslims in the UK or the west it was just gradual intake of them over decades because of various government policies was very soft and friendly on muslims because of economic reasons, there are 50+ muslim countries alot of them are rich with oil and in return their governments want their people to live and work in the west. So they allowed muslims to take advantage of having easy access to settle in the freer and economically richer west. Plus you had the religious muslim clergy which was encouraging muslims to get into the west, settle and over take their countries by sheer demographic strength.

Islam's hold over people  is only strong when its clergy keeps its sheeple people economically poor, uneducated, ignorant and stupid and kept in check by violence or peer pressure if they fall out of line. Sooner or later people will grow tired of it and abandon it because most muslims are cultural muslims they dont really pay attention or study their scriptures.

[TigerForce1]

6 hours ago, AkalkiFauj said:

In one topic, Bhai Jagraj Singh ji said to have loads of kids.

We don’t need to breed ourselves into significance!  All we need is ‘one’ Parcharak/Leader that can connect with the masses and before you know it, the numbers will multiply faster than anything you have seen.  Sounds familiar to the great leader that emerged in the 1980’s and changed the landscape of Punjab and the Diaspora.  Have faith and pass on Sikhi to your children and spread it to those who know nothing about us and watch everything that happens before your eyes. Stay Chardikala!

[Ranjeet01]

There are certain things I have noticed regarding the muslims in the west. 

If you live in a high muslim populated area (particularly in the UK).

Since 911, muslims have been on the back foot. They are being pushed to liberalise and become less closed off, they are being pushed to integrate and their women are now working and mixing with Kafirs. 

Have you noticed how many hijab women work?

There are definitely changes taking place but it is under the radar. 

The elites I think want westernise Islam and export it back to the muslim countries 

[MisterrSingh]

It's clear to me how the chess pieces are being positioned on the board, and it's very sad what will happen in the future. Those of you with money and resources should think of your coming peeriya, and should consider leaving if you can. Be original. Be a pioneer. Go somewhere where no Sikh has ever been. Don't follow the herd. Look where it's got us so far. Use faith and chardhi-kala to make something new. Pre-empt the devil. Don't use faith and religion as a crutch to lull yourself into a false sense of security. 

[Big_Tera]

2 hours ago, puzzled said:

why have britian invited so many muslims? what is the motive/purpose?

religions start to decline after they have served their political purpose  look what happened to Christianity in the west    a lot of ex muslims reckon islam will start going down hill around 50 yrs from now 

That is actually a big mis conception and quite mis leading

The British actually only allowed a few Muslims in.. This was due to a surplus jobs in the factories. 

The British never envisaged that these few Muslims that were let in in the 60's to 80's would breed and have 8 kids each. 

Ie if the Pakistani people in the UK had Same birth rate as white English people at the start of their migration.Ie max 2 to 3 kids. There would about 400.000 Pakistanis in Britain right now instead of 1.4 million.. it's just simple maths... They've bred and had to many kids. Often these kids are out of control and on the streets into crime. 

The British had no idea about the way Asians would breed.

So the answer is they never let 'to many in'. Their big population is a result of high birth rate. 

 

[Niara]

10 minutes ago, Big_Tera said:

That is actually a big mis conception and quite mis leading

The British actually only allowed a few Muslims in.. This was due to a surplus jobs in the factories. 

The British never envisaged that these few Muslims that were let in in the 60's to 80's would breed and have 8 kids each. 

Ie if the Pakistani people in the UK had Same birth rate as white English people at the start of their migration.Ie max 2 to 3 kids. There would about 400.000 Pakistanis in Britain right now instead of 1.4 million.. it's just simple maths... They've bred and had to many kids. Often these kids are out of control and on the streets into crime. 

The British had no idea about the way Asians would breed.

So the answer is they never let 'to many in'. Their big population is a result of high birth rate. 

 

The reason Pakistanis in the UK have grown so much in population is because of the practise of importing spouses from their home village to marry. This means there's constantly a first gen immigrant in each generation so it means they integrate less and the first generation immigrant mentality doesn't go away in their families. I've noticed Mirpuris do this much more than Punjabis do