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BJP Modi's Naya India now officially see's all of Kashmir and even parts of pakistan as Indian land


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10 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

Yeah the Balakot attack was a disaster for India and a huge boost for Pakistan's self confidence in its security forces. On top of that the way they made a video of the Indian pilot drinking tea was just embarrassing. Pakistani security forces are battle hardened with years of fighting in the harsh mountainous region of Waziristan against Pathans. Indian army hasn't had any war for over 20 years.

But I don't think India and Pakistan will fight a big conventional war. The next war will be a major insurgency probably in Kashmir. Next 2 decades I think things will get pretty ugly in Kashmir. Not just that, but the gap between Hindus and Indian Muslims is also widening further and further. Hindu Muslim violence will probably spill out all over India.

We Sikhs just need to sit back and mind our own business and stop acting like Hanuman all the time who gets his tail burnt for another's man's dispute. 

Yeah definitely Sikhs need to stay outta the mess.

I find it very distasteful whenever our own foolish Sikhs start glorifying kashmiri or muslim victims of hindu gangs or indian army. And then the same Sikhs are either blaming india r&aw for the attacks or no where to be seen or very quite when jihadis attack Sikhs in chattisingpora march 2000 and recent afghan sikh kabul gurdwara genocide massacre and the attack on nankana sahib by pakistani muslim mob who force converted head granthi's daughter to islam. These kinda attacks open the eyes of Sikhs that islam and pakistan does not have our best interests at heart and so its great propaganda to use against pakistan and islam. It really helps to show why Sikhs shouldn't trust them especially on issue of khalistan and if khalistan is to be made it should be made in pakistan part of punjab also and that can only be done by doing Sikhi parchar to punjabi muslims there.

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I doubt there will ever be conventional war between these two nuclear armed states. If there ever was, Pakistan would lose and end up using a nuke and then their would be full out nuclear war.

India has nothing to gain from war, all of the big foreign investors will pull out of India if a war does occur, Pakistan on the other hand has nothing to lose.

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4 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

I doubt there will ever be conventional war between these two nuclear armed states. If there ever was, Pakistan would lose and end up using a nuke and then their would be full out nuclear war.

India has nothing to gain from war, all of the big foreign investors will pull out of India if a war does occur, Pakistan on the other hand has nothing to lose.

Nuclear war in Kashmir would devestate the entire planet.  Nuclear war impacts the planet greatly, period, but being close to the Himalayas spreads any fallout all over the world. 

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Look at this way. India in 2020 on track for its usual GDP of $3tn with from a population of over 1bn people. Pakistan has a GDP of $290bn (so India has a 10x bigger economy ) with a 1/5 of india's population. Which major countries in the world would side with a Pakistan over India ? None. Even China would choose India because it is a major market for their goods. Pakistan is stuck in a rut because it can't afford an arms race with its neighbour that has 10x as much money. Even the nuke thing is nonsense as no country would use them (especially against a neighbour that is so vast ). Pakistan is just a useful enemy to India as it provides a reason for being for their military spending 

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1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

I doubt there will ever be conventional war between these two nuclear armed states. If there ever was, Pakistan would lose and end up using a nuke and then their would be full out nuclear war.

India has nothing to gain from war, all of the big foreign investors will pull out of India if a war does occur, Pakistan on the other hand has nothing to lose.

India has strategic military aims of why it wants to get into PoK and gilgit:

1) It needs to be there when NATO leaves afghanistan so that he can have land access to afghanistan to sure up the kabul regime in afghanistan

2) It needs to prevent the new chinese silk road and access for the chinese military above in that region.

3) It would boost india's populations morale and credibility as a strong military power willing to take risks and not afraid to take difficult decisions to combat pakistan's covert armed support in kashmir.

4) For Modi even if millions are killed in any conflict wither nuclear or not does not affect his stance because of his deeply held ideological beliefs. He would see that as collateral damage and is crazy enough to risk it all in order to defeat pakistan. Which is why pakistani establishment are worried because they cant threaten to use nukes or blackmail india any more because the moment they use a nuke india would pound pakistan with hydrogen bombs leaving it decimated.

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8 minutes ago, genie said:

India has strategic military aims of why it wants to get into PoK and gilgit:

1) It needs to be there when NATO leaves afghanistan so that he can have land access to afghanistan to sure up the kabul regime in afghanistan

2) It needs to prevent the new chinese silk road and access for the chinese military above in that region.

3) It would boost india's populations morale and credibility as a strong military power willing to take risks and not afraid to take difficult decisions to combat pakistan's covert armed support in kashmir.

4) For Modi even if millions are killed in any conflict wither nuclear or not does not affect his stance because of his deeply held ideological beliefs. He would see that as collateral damage and is crazy enough to risk it all in order to defeat pakistan. Which is why pakistani establishment are worried because they cant threaten to use nukes or blackmail india any more because the moment they use a nuke india would pound pakistan with hydrogen bombs leaving it decimated.

That's too far fetched, it will never happen. The USA and USSR never used nukes during the cold war. If India takes over Pakistan Kashmir it will just have even more muslims in its country, muslims who would cause more continuous headaches. 

Kashmir is a disaster, the muslim majority Kashmir valley should have gone to Pakistan during partition and the Hindu majority Jammu should have gone to India.

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10 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

That's too far fetched, it will never happen. The USA and USSR never used nukes during the cold war. If India takes over Pakistan Kashmir it will just have even more muslims in its country, muslims who would cause more continuous headaches. 

Kashmir is a disaster, the muslim majority Kashmir valley should have gone to Pakistan during partition and the Hindu majority Jammu should have gone to India.

Not saying it will end in nuclear conflict but chances are always there however small. Pakistan has always gone by the doctrine of the first strike and nuke blackmail threat to deter india from invading and attacking it. That myth has now been busted no longer india is held back by that threat because it has a leader mad enough to risk an all out nuclear conflict for those elites in the indian establishment if india gets involved in a nuclear exchange and gets depopulated as a result it wont be a bad thing in the eyes. Cos we all know these crazy depopulation war mongering ideologues from history end up doing some crazy things. Pakistan would defiantly not survive in any nuclear war and thats the risk why pakistan can not afford to threat or even use nukes.

As for kashmir being a disaster yes has always been since nehru went to the UN to broker some kind of agreement had he had the balls he should have pushed all the way into kashmir then into pakistani held punjab and before we knew it west pakistan would have been struggled before it had begun. But congress always wanted to play the long game appease and use the muslim vote bank in india to its advantage and to always relie on it to get into power.

The risk for india is taking in more muslim inhabitants which is why they must start planting the pro-india dharmic non-muslim demographic seeds in kashmir now if they want them to bear fruit in the future.

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1 minute ago, genie said:

Not saying it will end in nuclear conflict but chances are always there however small. Pakistan has always gone by the doctrine of the first strike and nuke blackmail threat to deter india from invading and attacking it. That myth has now been busted no longer india is held back by that threat because it has a leader mad enough to risk an all out nuclear conflict for those elites in the indian establishment if india gets involved in a nuclear exchange and gets depopulated as a result it wont be a bad thing in the eyes. Cos we all know these crazy depopulation war mongering ideologues from history end up doing some crazy things. Pakistan would defiantly not survive in any nuclear war and thats the risk why pakistan can not afford to threat or even use nukes.

As for kashmir being a disaster yes has always been since nehru went to the UN to broker some kind of agreement had he had the balls he should have pushed all the way into kashmir then into pakistani held punjab and before we knew it west pakistan would have been struggled before it had begun. But congress always wanted to play the long game appease and use the muslim vote bank in india to its advantage and to always relie on it to get into power.

The risk for india is taking in more muslim inhabitants which is why they must start planting the pro-india dharmic non-muslim demographic seeds in kashmir now if they want them to bear fruit in the future.

Part of me thinks that Modi is also pro muslim. Without the threat of muslims the Hindus would not be such fervent followers of his. No muslim threat = no votes for BJP.

If it ever came to Nukes the economy of India would be ruined, no one would ever invest in such a country.

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23 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Part of me thinks that Modi is also pro muslim. Without the threat of muslims the Hindus would not be such fervent followers of his. No muslim threat = no votes for BJP.

If it ever came to Nukes the economy of India would be ruined, no one would ever invest in such a country.

The muslim threat is a sure vote winner for Modi's BJP Hindu nationalists, its deeply ingrained into the psyche of the hindu's of never letting themselves being ruled by muslims in india ever again after 800years of being subjudgated under the brutal sword of islam on their necks. Even if congress switched sides and started to go for the hindu vote-bank and pushed forward a narrative of a muslim threat or a muslim take over then congress would most probably always win the elections.

As for the nukes that kinda end game would only happen if pakistan establishment was mad enough to see their nation and population wiped out by using a nuke meaning heavy retaliation from the Indian side. It's must probably these nuke weapons wont ever be used in a war unless it was as a means of last resort and there was a deep existential threat for the country.

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