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53 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

Hindu nationalists like the Sikhs just as long as the Sikhs are obedient and only look after Hindu interests. Once Sikhs look after their own interests then they are regarded as disloyal traitors and separatists who must be killed mercilessly.

Or even if you claim yourself as not a part of wider hinduism. 

The ideology op is talking abt is hindutva. They believe india first belongs to Hindus. And sikhism is just a sect of hinduism. That's why they will backstab panthic efforts. 

Now they're talking daily abt pok and such. Hindutva followers many of them are atheistic but believe in greatness of hindu culture. 

 

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The vast majority of them know nothing about us apart from bhangra and just consider us to be Hindus.

 

I can't blame some of their actions in recent times against muslims. In 1947 we drove out all of the muslims out of Punjab and therefore we don't really have to deal with their nonsense but the Hindus were too meek to do the same in other states partly because the cowardly Gandhi told them not to. On the other hand the muslims in Pakistan did throw all of them out during partition.

Muslims are also known to breed like rabbits, they have gone from being 9% of India's population in 1947 to 15% today. That is a huge increase when you consider how large India's population is. The Hindus are finally realising that they get bullied by muslims when the muslims are in a majority and now they are retaliating against muslim aggression. It's common sense and basic survival instinct. The way they have treated muslims after partition has been way too kind, they've finally woken up.

If the muslim population of India was 3% then the likes of Modi would never have gotten into power.

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1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

The vast majority of them know nothing about us apart from bhangra and just consider us to be Hindus.

yh your average hindu like gujjus  know nothing about sikhs,  whatever idea they have is from what they see in bollywood movies  daler mehndi etc   politicians like navjot sidhu  or babe like trilochan das that comes on aastha tv    thats about it really   and all these type of people are more hindu than sikh. 

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26 minutes ago, puzzled said:

yh your average hindu like gujjus  know nothing about sikhs,  whatever idea they have is from what they see in bollywood movies  daler mehndi etc   politicians like navjot sidhu  or babe like trilochan das that comes on aastha tv    thats about it really   and all these type of people are more hindu than sikh. 

Everyone throughout the world is like that. Only focusing on the majority.

Most Sikhs don't even know that Sikhs are just 60% of the population of Punjab and that most of the rest is Hindu. Even some the Sikhs living in Punjab don't realise this, which is shocking.

It's probably because Punjabi Hindus have never got involved much in Punjabi media and showbiz.

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4 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Everyone throughout the world is like that. Only focusing on the majority.

Most Sikhs don't even know that Sikhs are just 60% of the population of Punjab and that most of the rest is Hindu. Even some the Sikhs living in Punjab don't realise this, which is shocking.

It's probably because Punjabi Hindus have never got involved much in Punjabi media and showbiz.

Obviously you ain't been to the panjab lately. The biggest growing demographic in Panjab is the Muslims. I've been going since the 80s and the number of green flags going up has increased rapidly. All those Punjabi youth who left for other countries have been replaced with migrant workers who are now settling in the panjab 

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2 minutes ago, imhosingh said:

Obviously you ain't been to the panjab lately. The biggest growing demographic in Panjab is the Muslims. I've been going since the 80s and the number of green flags going up has increased rapidly. All those Punjabi youth who left for other countries have been replaced with migrant workers who are now settling in the panjab 

I went two years ago and saw loads of them in Amritsar, even had halal eateries there. It made my blood boil. We got rid of the Punjabi muslims in 1947 and now we are meekly letting these UP/Bihar muslims settle. I'm angry at the Hindus outside of Punjab who did not get rid of muslims in their states like we did. We are suffering due to their weakness.

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15 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

In 1984 the Sikh officers were the traitors not the Sikh soldiers. The Indian government had moved Sikh soldiers far away from Punjab so they would not be able to cause trouble. In 1984 as news came of the attack thousands of common Sikh soldiers and even a few officers had mutineed and tried to find they way back to Punjab but they were ruthlessly stopped. Today those Sikh soldiers are known as Dharmi Faujis. I think a Sikh regiment was even permanently disbanded.

But I agree with the rest of your post. Fact is today's nationalist Hindu does not follow the chivalrous ancient Kshatriya tradition where a warrior lived and died following a code of conduct based on Dharm. Instead today's nationalist Hindu has opted to follow the Maratha example. The Marathas did not follow any Kshatriya tradition. They were no different than the Afghans in their conduct which is why even Hindu rulers preferred the Afghans to the Marathas. 

Hindu nationalists like the Sikhs just as long as the Sikhs are obedient and only look after Hindu interests. Once Sikhs look after their own interests then they are regarded as disloyal traitors and separatists who must be killed mercilessly.

You maybe right about the maratha's I haven't read anything of them being ardent hindu's prehaps had they followed their kyshaster roots and hertiage they maybe have defeated abdali and other abrahamic invaders to indian subcontinent.

As for the Sikh soldiers I'm pretty sure the Indian army Sikh soldiers of 13th Sikh regiment along side other non-sikh regiments were used to attack darbar sahib in 1984.

And yes there were many Sikh soldiers who rebelled in their barracks and killed many indian troops when they heard news of the attack on darbar sahib. Some even taking heavy weapons and tanks on route to capture new delhi and attack the indian parliament. But were sadly eventually intercepted after fierce battles between them and their former comrades of the indian army.

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