One thing Sikhs should understand about todays modern Indian Hindu's

[Ranjeet01]

36 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

In that case, I wonder what the tipping point would be, in terms of India's mistreatment of Kashmiri Muslims before "something" happens. If India keeps applying pressure in Kashmir and continues its general Hindutva policies, then I think the recent Arabian outcry and Western verbal interventions will begin to increase.

India's recent squaring up against China is a poorly planned strategy. China's own problems with the Uighurs gave both countries somewhat of a common problem (uppity Muslim demographic needing to be taken down a peg or two before they become a bigger problem), but India decides to posture on the international stage by pandering to growing Western anger at China for the Covid crisis. 

There are so many countries where minorities have oppressed and there has been no tipping point. 

There is high level hypocrisy by Arab countries and the west and I think India will point the finger back.

For example, all those Gulf Arab countries have their oil reserves sitting on Shia lands. Bahrain for example is ruled by a Sunni minority. 

India will get together with Iran (Shia) and forment trouble back.

India is far too big to be taken down and there will be other countries that will back it up like Russia and Iran. This will escalate and cause bigger problems down the line.

Only Pakistan has an interest in Kashmir. If hypothetically Kashmir become independent. What do you think will happen?

Pakistan will take over and Pakistani Punjabis will swamp the valley. The Kashmiris would become a minority. 

If Hindutva were like Jihadis, they would have swamped the valley with Hindus years ago and turned Kashmiri muslims into a minority. 

The Kashmir Muslims with the Pakistani Jihadis ethnically cleansed the Kashmir Pandits out of the valley. 

For the past 30 years, there are over half million Kashmiri Pandits  (Brahmin Hindus) in refugee camps.

So Hindu ruled Hindu majority India has top hierarchy caste fair skinned Hindus living as refugees in their own country. 

On your second point, India sees China as competitors .

China's interest in keeping India down and is linked up with Pakistan.

So India wants to curb China if possible.

[Premi5]

On 5/20/2020 at 1:10 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

No chance.

There has been an attempt to internationalise the Kashmir situation for a couple of decades. 

India won't let go.

The fact that they have split the state, put Ladakh under central control and got rid of article 370, I think has strengthened their hand.

Economically they think are stronger and have far more leverage. 

Leverage is what matters, there will be countries that will play lip service about "self determination of Kashmir people" but they won't do anything if their economic ties are more important. 

In order for there to be a plebiscite, Pakistan will need to relinquish their control of their occupied areas. 

Pakistan won't do that.

Then there is the question of the part that is controlled by China (Aksai Chin). This is what Pakistan gave to China.

China won't relinquish that.

That is what India will say and everyone will be back to square one. 

The logical solution would be to turn the line of control (LOC) into an international border.

That won't satisfy Pakistan because of Ghazwa -E-Hind fantasies. 

The only western power that may have influence is the U.S. The EU is a joke.

The US will support an independent Kashmir if there is something in it for them, like an airbase or some military presence. 

China will not like that, nor will Russia. 

Then it will be China,Russia,India vs USA and Pakistan. 

Iran will join in with India, Russia and China. 

The US cannot take on India, Russia and China. It is too much for them.

 

 

Bumping this thread because it's very informative  (learned about Ghazwa -E-Hind for first time) and I wanted to share this from . 

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[proudkaur21]

16 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Bumping this thread because it's very informative  (learned about Ghazwa -E-Hind for first time) and I wanted to share this from . 

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Lmaooooo indian nationalists going to have a heart attack looking at this.

[Kau89r8]

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[Kau89r8]

 

[MisterrSingh]

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[proudkaur21]

44 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

@proudkaur21 @MisterrSingh

If Sikhs agree that mughal state was evil and needed to be ended then why do the modern day Sikhs not see the parallels between today's India and the unjust mughal empire?

[MisterrSingh]

21 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

If Sikhs agree that mughal state was evil and needed to be ended then why do the modern day Sikhs not see the parallels between today's India and the unjust mughal empire?

Silly comparison. Too much emotion, not enough thought.

[Kau89r8]

17 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

If Sikhs agree that mughal state was evil and needed to be ended then why do the modern day Sikhs not see the parallels between today's India and the unjust mughal empire?

'modern day Sikhs' are not the Sikhs we were once upon a time...

@proudkaur21

I think even those who are question after death must also hope there a place in hell waiting for them..

[Jacfsing2]

47 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

'modern day Sikhs' are not the Sikhs we were once upon a time...

@proudkaur21

I think even those who are question after death must also hope there a place in hell waiting for them..

The person dressed like a Sikh can come into Sikh institutions and become government agents, it was a known fact that Indian agents have been getting intel at Sikh Gurdwaras in the west.