What was Indira Gandhi's Personal Beef With Sikhs?

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14 minutes ago, genie said:

Perhaps it could be karmic justice

Yeah it's disgusting crime against humanity. Forced sterilization/genital mutilation against human beings is a war crime, its basically genocide in another form. Their forced sterilzation programs targeted mostly the poorer dalit caste communities. I think a film called "the midnights children" has even scene about this.

No wonder gandhi's and congress party were fine with mass murdering the Sikhs because they saw it as a sinister plan to depopulate india's huge population.

aprox 6 million men were sterilized 

 https://qz.com/india/1414774/the-legacy-of-indias-quest-to-sterilise-millions-of-men/

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/in-1976-more-than-6-million-men-in-india-were-coerced-into-sterilization

i agree it was a crime against humanity   for this alone you can say she was one of the worst barbaric rulers  dictators of the 20th century  should of been jailed and hanged for violation of human rights.      its crazy how hindus still love this woman, they call her the iron lady    she's their mother india.  

so many innocent young singhs were killed in punjab between the age of 15-35   sikhs also had a very high birthrate back then. 

[ChardikalaUK]

15 minutes ago, puzzled said:

aprox 6 million men were sterilized 

 https://qz.com/india/1414774/the-legacy-of-indias-quest-to-sterilise-millions-of-men/

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/in-1976-more-than-6-million-men-in-india-were-coerced-into-sterilization

i agree it was a crime against humanity   for this alone you can say she was one of the worst barbaric rulers  dictators of the 20th century  should of been jailed and hanged for violation of human rights.      its crazy how hindus still love this woman, they call her the iron lady    she's their mother india.  

so many innocent young singhs were killed in punjab between the age of 15-35   sikhs also had a very high birthrate back then. 

They also idolise 'super cop' KPS Gill.

[genie]

5 minutes ago, puzzled said:

aprox 6 million men were sterilized 

 https://qz.com/india/1414774/the-legacy-of-indias-quest-to-sterilise-millions-of-men/

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/in-1976-more-than-6-million-men-in-india-were-coerced-into-sterilization

i agree it was a crime against humanity   for this alone you can say she was one of the worst barbaric rulers  dictators of the 20th century  should of been jailed and hanged for violation of human rights.      its crazy how hindus still love this woman, they call her the iron lady    she's their mother india.  

so many innocent young singhs were killed in punjab between the age of 15-35   sikhs also had a very high birthrate back then. 

Most hindu's who supported her or still support her tend to be ultra nationalist fascists or ignorant low IQ types.

As for the killings of so many male sikh youths in punjab in the 90s it is that kind of gender based violence that leads to families then doing female infanticides because they long for a male heir to safeguard the family, family name and inheritance. in 1947 when so many Sikh males were murdered or killed in fighting with the muslim mobs then naturally alot of the women were left and these vulnerable women either committed suicide, or were captured and raped or kidnapped and converted to islam. There was more women than men in punjab after events of partition so it all had an impact on the social eco system of the community.

The screwed gender ratio demographics then lead to families wanting only sons to look after them fearing another repeat of 1947's or 80/90's type situation so that lead direct collation to female infanticide . So this vicious cycle of gendercides of both sexes experienced in punjab and in the Sikh community is directly linked to hostile environment created by the ruling state power as a brutal means of oppression and state terrorism.

[Premi5]

3 hours ago, puzzled said:

she was a kutti    as a man i can not think of anything worse than this happening.

If you want to cut population numbers, then that is one way of doing it

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1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

If you want to cut population numbers, then that is one way of doing it

Doesn't make it right though. In fact its one of the worst things you can do to someones body. 

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2 hours ago, genie said:

Most hindu's who supported her or still support her tend to be ultra nationalist fascists or ignorant low IQ types.

As for the killings of so many male sikh youths in punjab in the 90s it is that kind of gender based violence that leads to families then doing female infanticides because they long for a male heir to safeguard the family, family name and inheritance. in 1947 when so many Sikh males were murdered or killed in fighting with the muslim mobs then naturally alot of the women were left and these vulnerable women either committed suicide, or were captured and raped or kidnapped and converted to islam. There was more women than men in punjab after events of partition so it all had an impact on the social eco system of the community.

The screwed gender ratio demographics then lead to families wanting only sons to look after them fearing another repeat of 1947's or 80/90's type situation so that lead direct collation to female infanticide . So this vicious cycle of gendercides of both sexes experienced in punjab and in the Sikh community is directly linked to hostile environment created by the ruling state power as a brutal means of oppression and state terrorism.

I wonder if this direct attack on men  with the sterilization had something to do with her being a woman in a mans role? perhaps deep down there was some psychology at play. It wouldn't of been easy for her as a woman to be in a mans world and to be taken seriously. She was a woman in a role which is naturally a mans role. Women when in charge most of the time go the extra mile to prove their dominance, just look at female managers they are the worst managers. Its as if they have to put on this horrible nasty act to be taken seriously, must be a insecurity deep down knowing they are a woman in a mans role and whether if they will be taken seriously, i don't think they even realize they are doing it. i mean there really can't be a better way of proving her point than directly chopping 6 million mens balls off.     I'm pretty sure there was some psychology at play there too.

she had quite a lonely neglected childhood    had daddy problems....  Nehru was a player not a family man  indira and her mother were neglected. 

look at magret thatcher and the falklands war, she got the british army to kill a couple of shepherds at the falkland islands and thought she was a hero because of that.

its strange 

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3 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

They also idolise 'super cop' KPS Gill.

kps gill sexually harassed women. i posted a video on here a while back of a interview of some lady that he sexually harassed at some event, he stuck his fingers in her mouth and then slapped her bum. I'm pretty sure she wasnt the only one he sexually harassed. filthy b@stard

Indian government also sent actress sridevi to punjab during kps gills reign and the media photographed her sitting with kps gill to basically show india that that the situation in punjab is under control and that even movie stars are visiting punjab and shooting movies. Thats how the government uses these celebs as well. 

[genie]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

I wonder if this direct attack on men  with the sterilization had something to do with her being a woman in a mans role? perhaps deep down there was some psychology at play. It wouldn't of been easy for her as a woman to be in a mans world and to be taken seriously. She was a woman in a role which is naturally a mans role. Women when in charge most of the time go the extra mile to prove their dominance, just look at female managers they are the worst managers. Its as if they have to put on this horrible nasty act to be taken seriously, must be a insecurity deep down knowing they are a woman in a mans role and whether if they will be taken seriously, i don't think they even realize they are doing it. i mean there really can't be a better way of proving her point than directly chopping 6 million mens balls off.     I'm pretty sure there was some psychology at play there too.

she had quite a lonely neglected childhood    had daddy problems....  Nehru was a player not a family man  indira and her mother were neglected. 

look at magret thatcher and the falklands war, she got the british army to kill a couple of shepherds at the falkland islands and thought she was a hero because of that.

its strange 

Yup probably a mixture of daddy issues and that nasty feminist streak most aggressive women have coming out. So with the 2 witches combining their political power in 1980s they wanted to appear more manly than men by launching murderous campaigns without question whereas most men of the time would be slightly more cautious approach.

Indira launched the war on east pakistan creating bangladesh, did forced sterilization on the poorest of indians, operation blue star sikh genocide

Margret thatcher did falklands war, tried to enforce the poll tax even on the poorest families, took away free milk from young kids at school, was mates with general pinochet of chile who was brutalising his own citizens who opposed him in the same way sikhs were being done in india. Launched several loyality terrorist operations against Irish catholic civilians

[Ranjeet01]

8 hours ago, genie said:

Yup probably a mixture of daddy issues and that nasty feminist streak most aggressive women have coming out. So with the 2 witches combining their political power in 1980s they wanted to appear more manly than men by launching murderous campaigns without question whereas most men of the time would be slightly more cautious approach.

Indira launched the war on east pakistan creating bangladesh, did forced sterilization on the poorest of indians, operation blue star sikh genocide

Margret thatcher did falklands war, tried to enforce the poll tax even on the poorest families, took away free milk from young kids at school, was mates with general pinochet of chile who was brutalising his own citizens who opposed him in the same way sikhs were being done in india. Launched several loyality terrorist operations against Irish catholic civilians

Never got this "woman in a man's world" trope.

There is always this perception by some women "to make it in a man's world" that they have to be these complete ruthless tyrants. 

There is so much more to being a male. Even in leadership roles.

In general, the male toughness in a lot of leadership roles has a sense of fairness in there and a whole heap of other factors including compassion. 

The current female in UK politics who is quite "tyrannical" is that Priti Patel.

We tend to equate compassion as a female trait but I think these women in power can get away with a lot more because they are women.

There is a difference between people who seek power and those that power thrust upon them.

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Never got this "woman in a man's world" trope.

There is always this perception by some women "to make it in a man's world" that they have to be these complete ruthless tyrants. 

There is so much more to being a male. Even in leadership roles.

In general, the male toughness in a lot of leadership roles has a sense of fairness in there and a whole heap of other factors including compassion. 

The current female in UK politics who is quite "tyrannical" is that Priti Patel.

We tend to equate compassion as a female trait but I think these women in power can get away with a lot more because they are women.

There is a difference between people who seek power and those that power thrust upon them.

Just look at the difference between men in management and women in management. Women managers a horrible and feel the need to be horrible to be taken seriously. Honestly iv never had a male manager that was horrible  the only horrible male manager iv had was a gay man. 

We used to call the female managers dragons lol. Even females dont like women managers. 

Most male managers are chilled and layed back. 

It's because being a manager, leader is naturally a mans role/position    so when women step into this role they feel insecure and feel the need to be horrible to be taken seriously and be respected. 

Indira obviously had this insecurity aswell and felt the need to be tyrannical.