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On 5/25/2020 at 8:46 AM, chatanga1 said:

Add to that what they actually percieve as Sri Akal Purkh. They say that kudrat ie nature is Akal Purkh, even though Mool Mantar clearly says otherwise.

What? Really? 

That's the exact thing the (more radical) missionaries are saying these days! And Sant Dhadrianwale, too.

So, basically, the missionaries are doing nothing more than spouting Radha Swami talking points.

So much for being their claims of trying to save authentic Sikhi from the Sants.

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On 6/3/2020 at 6:45 AM, ipledgeblue said:

which gurdwara is this in Ludhiana?

There are two Missionary headquarters in Ludhiana:

One is the Sikh Missionary College, Ludhiana in Field Ganj area. They are "moderate" missionaries (well, relatively). A lot of Sikhs had appreciated some of their earlier work in the form of pamphlets and Sikh Phulwari magazine.

The other is the Gurmat Gian Missionary College in Jawaddi village, Ludhiana. This might be the one the poster is referring to, but I'm not sure. Anyway, the Gurmat Gian people are the more radical of the two. Sarbjit Singh Dhunda was affiliated with them.

 

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On 6/4/2020 at 11:16 PM, MisterrSingh said:

Never understood why these people are referred to as missionaries. I've come to see them as Sikh secularists; supporting Sikh political and social aims but lacking in the spirituality of the belief system. The term 'missionary' has connotations in the English language that denote something entirely different.

Even their support of Sikh political aims is somewhat questionable sometimes. After all, the exposition of Sikh political claims is found in Granths (Dasam Granth, Gurbilas, Panth Prakash, etc.) that they do not accept.

In English, missionary refers to people going around preaching (Christianity). In their minds, the Sikh missionaries think they're on a mission to preach Sikhism. The next question is: How to get non-Sikhs to believe in Sikhism? Answer: Present logical, rational reasons for Sikhism.

This explains the Missionary obsession with rationality.

 

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On 6/7/2020 at 12:38 PM, genie said:

If these Sikh missionaries are doing parchar to Sikhs nearly all the time then we can question their true motives.

Their number one task seems to be to break Sikhs off from going to Sants. If someone finds Sikhi through the preaching of the Sants, let it be.

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14 hours ago, BhForce said:

Their number one task seems to be to break Sikhs off from going to Sants. If someone finds Sikhi through the preaching of the Sants, let it be.

Good in theory but there's a huge problem: Sikhs (or most groups from our part of the world) tend to attach themselves to the intermediary. The Sant becomes the stand-in Guru. That's a big, big problem.

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On 5/23/2020 at 10:01 PM, Sikhi4Ever said:

Their core beliefs are:

- Not believe in our history (janam Sakhis)
- Not believe in importance of Sri Harmandir Sahib
- Not believe in the power Amrit Sanchar
- Not believe that Gurus were anything more than a regular human (not god sent and does not have any power)
- Not believe in daily mandatory recitation of sikh prayers (degrade our gurus order by comparing to stupid examples such as parrot reading)
- Not believe in mandatory 5 banis; they want to remove banis of sri dasam granth sahib. 
- Not believe in sikh scriptures (pre-2015)
- Not believe in Sri Guru Granth Sahib (Post-2015)
- Not believe in Sri Hemkunt Sahib
- Not believe in Sri Panja Sahib
- Not beleive in the work of Panthic Jathabandia of the past such as babbar akali movement in 1920's etc
- Not believe in Naam Simran - They make mockery of repeating of gurmantar "Waheguru... Waheguru..."
- Not believe in Amritvela - They gave example that amritvela is the time for thieves to wake up and do their bad deed
- Not believe in Shaastar - Their gurdwara and school or Headquarter in Ludhiana does not have any shaastar nor khanda on their nishaan sahib flag. 
- Not believe in Shaastar Vidiyaa nor believe in "Right to bear Arms"

A house without bricks and mortar *smh*

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