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27 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

I knew this would happen. Again we find some brain-dead fake Khalistanis twisting the story and trying create another fake Hindu conspiracy theory behind this attack like they did with the Nankana Sahib and Kabul Gurdwara attacks

NYSF.. have links with CAGE UK...the pro muslimbrotherhood organisation lol. few years ago there was jihadi who was part of that cage uk..they're embarrassing NYSF...thankfully we have apne people are calling those fuddus out for their stupidity...i used to follow them and other alike then found out how many brain-cells work in these so called 'Sikh' organisations'...one of their members is fasting for Eid lol .......i dont trust anyone these Sikhs organisation whether their left or right ...these Gurudwaras or organisation raise alot money talk about 84 yet what have they done to help out dire conditions in Punjab or those 84 families.....where does the money go? Could they not hire lawyers to fight those in jail in India ...only HS Phoolka has dedicated his life to bring a fraction of justice what about others? 

...Calling out India or RSS is low hanging theres nothing more that we don't know about 84 .think apne need to start damn learning what happen prior partion, during partion Mughal times......

These organisations esp far left sjw 'Khlastians' are no doubt getting petrol dollars for muslims organistions ...bunch of cucks..wish'd they just f### off and go live Pakistan or convert islam........we be better off!!

 

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There are nearly 50 000 Sikhs living in the Kashmir Valley. 

I never knew there were that many.

Are these ethnic Kashmiri Sikhs or descendants of Punjabi Sikhs?

Maybe the realisation here is that perhaps the Kashmiri muslim is not that innocent after all. Maybe they aren't as oppressed as they make out to be.

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10 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There are nearly 50 000 Sikhs living in the Kashmir Valley. 

I never knew there were that many.

Are these ethnic Kashmiri Sikhs or descendants of Punjabi Sikhs?

Maybe the realisation here is that perhaps the Kashmiri muslim is not that innocent after all. Maybe they aren't as oppressed as they make out to be.

The 2nd largest fastest growing religion in India 200m compared to 25 million give take Sikhs in india which is declining rapidly ....who's the minority in India? They got country called Islamic Republic of Pakistan......how many Islamic countries are there 50 marjority islamic countries and fastest growing religion yet Gulf states have ..all the wealth power in world.......

 Sikhs are ONLY religion without homeland. Apne cannot sit on their hands and learn how to be neutral...muslims is only way they can Sikhs can get clout...attention publicity, Pathetic...

Used to fall for these free Palestine free Kashmir because you constantly bombarded by Islamic news 'suffering'. in school college uni...esp when you live majority with muslims areas..they brainwash you ..and you fall for their propaganda this why apne are cucks

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14 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There are nearly 50 000 Sikhs living in the Kashmir Valley. 

I never knew there were that many.

Are these ethnic Kashmiri Sikhs or descendants of Punjabi Sikhs?

Maybe the realisation here is that perhaps the Kashmiri muslim is not that innocent after all. Maybe they aren't as oppressed as they make out to be.

Just checked on quroa,  they seem to be of various different backgrounds. 

"Kashmiri sikhs are mainly dogra language speakers hails from mostly two ethical communities katri (including arora as well) and saraswat brahmins, (pundits, mohyals and Dora's and other punjabi brahmins), some of these sikhs speak punjabi as there mother tongue, many of these sikhs were opted for sikhism while guru hargovind ji and guru teg bhadur ji regime. They are practically arya sikhs as there is no any other caste in sikh community there" 

 

"Kashmiri Sikhs are aborigines of Kashmir. They mostly belong to Mohyal castes of Brahmins like Chhibber, Bali, Datta,Mehta, Luv, Mohan, bhimwal. Majority of these people got converted to Sikhism right from the time of Guru Nanak and Guru Hargobind sahib.

During the time of Maharaja Ranjit singh many Jat Sikhs also settled in valley and can be seen in Kupwara,pattan and mattan areas.

we have also small section of trader Sikh population. They mostly are Khatris.

linguistically Kashmiri Sikhs are Punjabi"

 

The sikhs of Jammu region mostly are of Khatri/Arora/Jat community, but the question asked about Sikhs of Kashmir region

As a matter of fact, Most of the Kashmir Sikhs have surnames similar to Kashmiri Pandits, I know Sikhs having surnames like Raina,Ganjoo,Kher,Razdan etc. which are obviously Kashmiri Pandits surnames.

 

 

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2 hours ago, puzzled said:

Just checked on quroa,  they seem to be of various different backgrounds. 

"Kashmiri sikhs are mainly dogra language speakers hails from mostly two ethical communities katri (including arora as well) and saraswat brahmins, (pundits, mohyals and Dora's and other punjabi brahmins), some of these sikhs speak punjabi as there mother tongue, many of these sikhs were opted for sikhism while guru hargovind ji and guru teg bhadur ji regime. They are practically arya sikhs as there is no any other caste in sikh community there" 

 

"Kashmiri Sikhs are aborigines of Kashmir. They mostly belong to Mohyal castes of Brahmins like Chhibber, Bali, Datta,Mehta, Luv, Mohan, bhimwal. Majority of these people got converted to Sikhism right from the time of Guru Nanak and Guru Hargobind sahib.

During the time of Maharaja Ranjit singh many Jat Sikhs also settled in valley and can be seen in Kupwara,pattan and mattan areas.

we have also small section of trader Sikh population. They mostly are Khatris.

linguistically Kashmiri Sikhs are Punjabi"

 

The sikhs of Jammu region mostly are of Khatri/Arora/Jat community, but the question asked about Sikhs of Kashmir region

As a matter of fact, Most of the Kashmir Sikhs have surnames similar to Kashmiri Pandits, I know Sikhs having surnames like Raina,Ganjoo,Kher,Razdan etc. which are obviously Kashmiri Pandits surnames.

 

 

The consensus seems to be that they are mainly ethnic Kashmiri. 

It is interesting that Kashmiri Pandits were almost completely ethnically cleansed since 1989 but Kashmiri Sikh were not.

The whole Kashmir issue is not an issue of "Kashmiriyat " but one of Islam.

 

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16 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The consensus seems to be that they are mainly ethnic Kashmiri. 

It is interesting that Kashmiri Pandits were almost completely ethnically cleansed since 1989 but Kashmiri Sikh were not.

The whole Kashmir issue is not an issue of "Kashmiriyat " but one of Islam.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, puzzled said:

 

I suspect that Kashmiri Sikhs were largely left alone due to Khalistan situation.

Though the Kashmiri muslims are fools.

If they every get sovereignty,  Pakistan will invade with tanks and swarm the valley with Pakistanis.

The Kashmiri muslims will become a minority and lose any autonomy and any rights they gave being part of India (like all the subsidies they get at the moment).

If that happens, serves them right!

 

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11 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I suspect that Kashmiri Sikhs were largely left alone due to Khalistan situation.

Though the Kashmiri muslims are fools.

If they every get sovereignty,  Pakistan will invade with tanks and swarm the valley with Pakistanis.

The Kashmiri muslims will become a minority and lose any autonomy and any rights they gave being part of India (like all the subsidies they get at the moment).

If that happens, serves them right!

 

yh im guessing because of the khalistan movement back then and the training camps in kashmir is the only reason why sikhs had it a bit easier than the pandits. according to that video 2000 sikhs left kashmir and went Punjab. 

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31 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

 

The whole Kashmir issue is not an issue of "Kashmiriyat " but one of Islam.

 

That is what it is all about. Kashmiriyat has nothing to do with it. It is all about the struggle between Muslims vs Hindus just as 1947 was. We were just caught up in this tug of war between the two. Sikhs need to be very smart and not be used by any side as useful pawns as we have so far been used.

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Kashmir's muslim population is largely is all about islamyat not kashmiryat at all. Even before 1947 during the Sikh empire days they were brutalised by their fellow muslims, the afghan empire invaders who ruled over them with a iron fist and so they sought help and invited maharajah ranjit singh's forces to invade and liberate them which he did. After the Sikh army took over kashmir things were good until hindu dogra general gulab singh wanted his jammu hindu's settled in kashmir and have political power in kashmir and then they started to kick off again not allowing non-muslims to be equal citizens of kashmir...and so rest is past history.

And  we come to present day times....Kashmiri Sikhs were left alone since the Khalistan militancy was going on. I guess the muslims didnt want the wrath of militant Punjabi Sikhs armed with ak47s gunning for them too not just the indian state.

After Punjab's militancy quietened down in the mid 90s then regional geo-political wings started to change. The taliban had taken over afghanistan and jihadis around the world flocked there as a safe haven for islamic terrorism. The taliban government then started to send its al-qaeda type global pan islamic jihadi's to kashmir to attack indian army and non-muslim civilians probably on the request of pakistani ISI. Then came america's secret discussions with taliban about wanting a oil pipeline.

The Taliban refused to do a deal after many talks in new york and so things headed for a war. America needed a pretext to invade and get that oil pipelines in so they plotted as did the cia's agent osama. Meanwhile things were kicking off again between india and pakistan both conduct nuke tests and embolden by nuclear power status nawaz sharif (former prime minister of pakistan) and his pakistani ISI sent jihadis on mass to occupy some parts of indian kashmir and again hostilities resumed over kargil in 1999 which lead to an indian tactical and military victory and withdrawl of pakistani and jihadi forces from indian kashmir.

American president bill clinton visits india and to bring attention of situation in kashmir the islamiyat jihadi's massacre 40 kashmiri Sikh civilians (anyone notice a pattern emerging here? targeting of gurdwara's and sikh civilians over kashmir?). India blamed pakistani ISI, and pakistan blamed RSS. But the pattern is clear its always islamic jihadi's who targetted Sikhs like this.

Then 9/11 happened the perfect pretext was laid for america to invade afghanistan and destory the terrorist taliban regime and after invasion the taliban govt crumbled most of the leadership fled to its founder, funder and sponsor daddy pakistan. The pan islamist jihadi pipe from afghan to kashmir came to a shuddering halt. They were pre-occupied with fighting NATO forces. Then america opened up another front in iraq and so they flocked over there. Then they opened up another front in syria and the jihadi m0rons flocked there and same happened in libya.

Kashmir was neglected and so again things are heating up again as NATO and america looks to withdraw from afghanistan maybe pakistani ISI will try to revive the terrorist jihadi pipeline to kashmir again. Modi has formally incorporated kashmir into the union of india. Indian flags are flying over state buildings there. The pakistani ISI is frustrated, the terrorist islamiyat mullah molvi's are frustrated so they look for easy targets. They striked at innocent afghan Sikhs under the IS-K / haqqani network as a way to get to india. But indian establishment dont give two f*cks about what happens to Sikhs. So the only thing the frustrated Islamic ummah achieved is angered the Sikhs of the world.

The Sikhs need to wise up to regional and geo-politics of how the real world works. And so those brothers in muslim dominated areas they can start to make preparations for what to come eventually.

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https://thewire.in/rights/angadh-singh-khalsa-sikh-kashmiri

 

How Kashmir's Fraught Political Journey Led a Young Sikh Man Into Activism

Nirmaljeet Singh was doing a cinematography course away from his J&K home when the communications' blockade was announced in the aftermath of the Article 370 move. Events since then made it impossible to stay off politics.

 

How Kashmir's Fraught Political Journey Led a Young Sikh Man Into Activism

Nirmaljeet Singh (his social media name is Angadh Singh Khalsa). Photo: Shakir Mir

 
 
 
 
 
 

Srinagar: The video is grainy, shot seemingly outside the gurdwara near Amira Kadal, a bustling commercial enclave off Jhelum river in Srinagar.

Twenty-one-year-old Nirmaljeet Singh (popular by his social media name ‘Angadh Singh Khalsa’) is lounging by the roadside when a Kashmiri woman, dressed in loose black garment, approaches him. “Mashallah, your speech from yesterday was very nice,” she remarks jovially. “We were watching. God bless you with eternal success. You are fighting for the truth.”

Streets were not the only venue where he became the subject of adoration. “#Salute #Respect,” wrote one user on Twitter, sharing a picture of Singh.

“Much love and respect to @ASKhalsa84 bhai,” posted another, mentioning his Twitter handle. There were similar updates on Facebook as well as Instagram.

This month, tempers have flared in Kashmir Valley again. Two weeks ago, police said they carried out an anti-militancy operation at Hyderpora near highway in Srinagar in which a militant, his associate and two civilians were killed. The deaths have sparked outrage, with the families of two slain civilians alleging that the police recklessly forced their kin to participate in the operation. It appears that the civilians may have attempted – upon whose instructions it is not clear – to unlock the rooms where a purported Pakistani militant was hiding.

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