Allah shows his mercy on Derby Gurudwara by attacking it today

[puzzled]

3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

If anything, our Gurdwareh and Sikh organisations will double-down on the Islamic appeasement and virtue signalling. 

Things need to change quickly. Whenever some parcharak or giani starts chatting about "Musalman Bhai" in Maharaj's hazoori, someone needs to have the courage to stand up and say enough is enough.

The international Sikh sangat's experience with Islam does NOT reflect the subcontinent / Indian republic's experience. Either wake up to the ground reality in countries across the world where Sikhs are settled, or unequivocally state that Sikhi only applies to what transpires in north India, because I can't relate to any of the stuff these obscenely wealthy superstar parcharaks have to say about the world the rest of us are forced to live in.

these gurdware granthis have no idea what actual society is like, they spend most their time within the gurdwaras walls, thats where they eat, sit, sleep and work. The way they do parchaar is as if muslims think like Bagat Farid ji. last yr at the gurdwara after sukhasan the sangat used to do simran together for about 20 mins    would be around 15-20 of us   the gyanis would lead the simran and then explain stuff. One day this one gyani was like our muslims brothers also remember parmaatma, he then stared demonstrating how they do it and he was like "allah hoooo, allah hoooo,  he said they say the hooooo from deep within their chest   hoooooo        . thats not even a mainstream muslim practice, its called zikr and mainly only sufis do it.  and he probably saw that in one of those punjabi singer music videos that they shoot at dargahs with the crazy over the top acting from the actors playing the muslims.  

[puzzled]

the paatis at the gurdwara that do parchaar   this is their source of information for islam, its these music videos, they think this what muslims are like    the dholkis, the allah hoooooo's, prancing around singing qwaalis .    this is their research.   

 

[dharamyudh]

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[puzzled]

46 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

 Most of our modern day paatis believe Islam is all about Sufism and dancing around like the videos indicate, yet fail to realize that's only just a sect. The majority of Islam revolves around Sunni and Shia, both look at us as kafirs. No matter how they may act, it's legit instilled within their faith. 

I honestly feel like this is going to happen. I've always found it crazy how history always repeats itself. We've seen it with the Tat Khalsa and the Bandai Khalsa, we honestly may see that split again.  

i think it will, tensions are rising. I think we will hear about a clash soon, that too in a gurdwara.  like when some man was going to organize vaisakhi at a mosque and singhs made sure that it didnt happen. The whole interfaith marriage thing a few years back, when gurdware weren't listening and still carrying out these fake marriages   there ended up being clashes in many gurdware up and down the country.  With sikhs its always once we are pushed to the limit and just cant take the bs anymore when we react.   

and whenever this clash does take place the wishy washy sikhs will call the police and run to the media and the BBC will print another article about "radical british sikh men disrupt sikh-muslim interfaith event" 

[dharamyudh]

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[RajKaregaKhalsa1]

3 hours ago, puzzled said:

The way they do parchaar is as if muslims think like Bagat Farid ji

Funny thing is, Bhagat Farid Ji wasn't even a Muslim after they met Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaaj.

 

[genie]

I wonder what would have happened had that muslim attacker come along when the gurdwara was open and he managed to get inside to attack the sangat. What would Sikhs have done if there was mostly elderly Sikh then it would have been a carnage as he had a knife on him and we know he stabbed some random polish white guy near the road of the gurdwara.

But imagine it was full of angry passionate strong Sikh youths i reckon they would have killed him if they had any ankh about them and that would have been the just response to those who attack guru's house. Sikhs need to be reminded that those kirpans and shasters they keep in gurdwara are not just for show they are there to defend the Sikhs and gurdwara from attackers.

[MisterrSingh]

8 hours ago, genie said:

I wonder what would have happened had that muslim attacker come along when the gurdwara was open and he managed to get inside to attack the sangat. What would Sikhs have done if there was mostly elderly Sikh then it would have been a carnage as he had a knife on him and we know he stabbed some random polish white guy near the road of the gurdwara.

But imagine it was full of angry passionate strong Sikh youths i reckon they would have killed him if they had any ankh about them and that would have been the just response to those who attack guru's house. Sikhs need to be reminded that those kirpans and shasters they keep in gurdwara are not just for show they are there to defend the Sikhs and gurdwara from attackers.

I agree with all of this, yet I must say I kind of understand the reservations expressed by the NSYF on the previous page. I personally don't think it's a RAW conspiracy, but I think certain white organisations who are under the radar and biding their time until the critical moment before acting themselves, MIGHT be involved. I'm not referring to the clown outfits and MI5-infiltrated EDL, Britain First. I think we might be used to gauge what the general reaction might be to a "soft" backlash against Muslims in the UK, specifically if they start attacking our Gurdwareh. It'll be Enoch Powell's prophetic words come true (he predicted that the immigrant population would import their old communal conflicts into this country).

Depending on the subsequent media and public reaction (whether it's "Sikhs had no choice but to defend themselves" or "How dare Sikhs target those poor innocent Muslims"), an observing third party will then base their own actions around the general reception to our response. So, just be mindful of these games. There's a hell of a lot going on that not many understand. The game is complex and layered. It's dirty.

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

I agree with all of this, yet I must say I kind of understand the reservations expressed by the NSYF on the previous page. I personally don't think it's a RAW conspiracy, but I think certain white organisations who are under the radar and biding their time until the critical moment before acting themselves, MIGHT be involved. I'm not referring to the clown outfits and MI5-infiltrated EDL, Britain First. I think we might be used to gauge what the general reaction might be to a "soft" backlash against Muslims in the UK, specifically if they start attacking our Gurdwareh. It'll be Enoch Powell's prophetic words come true (he predicted that the immigrant population would import their old communal conflicts into this country).

Depending on the subsequent media and public reaction (whether it's "Sikhs had no choice but to defend themselves" or "How dare Sikhs target those poor innocent Muslims"), an observing third party will then base their own actions around the general reception to our response. So, just be mindful of these games. There's a hell of a lot going on that not many understand. The game is complex and layered. It's dirty.

You maybe right or wrong. We can think endlessly this way. But what is the evidence to support your plausible hypothesis ?

 

[MisterrSingh]

2 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

You maybe right or wrong. We can think endlessly this way. But what is the evidence to support your plausible hypothesis ?

 

Just a theory. Be open to all the possibilities. For those of us in the West it's a two-pronged struggle compared to India.