Dhumma speaking against Brahm Kavach and Uggardanti?

[FreshMind13]

I was never really fully convinced on Brahm Kavach, but he is saying Uggardanti too?

What will Dhumma supporters say now?

[Premi5]

3 hours ago, FreshMind13 said:

I was never really fully convinced on Brahm Kavach, but he is saying Uggardanti too?

 

He’s an <banned word filter activated> if really saying about Brahm Kavach

[Jonny101]

There are a lot of things people don't know. There has been a lot of conflict between Nihangs and Dhumma recently. This recent attack on Banis read and popularised by Nihangs is just a part of this on going conflict between the two sides. Giani Thakur Singh spent more time with Sant Kartar Singh and Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale than Dhumma ever did and is one of the most vocal advocates of Brahm Kawach.

While Dhumma has done some good things which should not be ignored such as the promotion of Dasam Granth, Bikrami Calendar, building a Gurdwara to Sant ji at the Sri Darbar Sahib complex but rajniti/politics is not one of his strengths. Sometimes he does things which make him and Taksal look bad. 

[ipledgeblue]

13 hours ago, FreshMind13 said:

 

I was never really fully convinced on Brahm Kavach, but he is saying Uggardanti too?

What will Dhumma supporters say now?

Dhumma is meant to represent Bhindra Taksal and he says these things? He should be removed from jathedaari, what an idiotic ignorant thing to say!

[Singh375]

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[S1ngh]

5 hours ago, Singh375 said:

Not much difference between Dhumma and Dandarian wale. Dandarian wale says bhram kavach is not bani too, and now refers to Giani Thakur Singh Ji as ‘gappi’ - even though Giani Ji is older and still always showed them a lot of respect. Giani ji has a lot of nimrata actually.

This picture was 2013 in UK

2013 was the time when Dhaderanwal was playing safe and mostly all jathabandiaan were respecting him and his diwans were being held in almost every major gurdwara sahibs. 

[akaalsahaiji]

Brahm Kavach is attributed to Guru Hargobind Ji. Dhumma is incorrect when saying it's attributed to Guru Gobind Singh Ji, but correct that it is not in Dasam Granth.

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[shastarSingh]